On 20/11/2010 2:27 AM, Jason van Gumster wrote:
> Furthermore, I'm not sure how the 'sharing with 3rd party contractors
> constitutes distribution' argument holds any water. Are you saying that these
> companies - many of which are used to treating source code as trade secret -
> are going to have
On 21/11/2010 12:27 PM, Toni Alatalo wrote:
> AFAIK that Collada person at Katalabs has worked on OpenCollada, which is
> exactly the library that Blender 2.5 uses for the new Collada support there.
> That is what that the previous posts were pointing at. If I understood
> correctly, the guy wh
--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Benjamin Tolputt wrote:
> Remember, the GPL explicitly prohibits adding restrictions
> to the source
> code distribution. So contracts cannot require that the GPL
> extended
> code be kept inhouse and sue for it in the case said clause
> is broken.
> Well, *sue & win*, giv
On 22/11/2010 2:12 AM, Martin Poirier wrote:
> Stealing a copy doesn't count as distribution.
The scenario I am talking about is not a "stolen" distribution, but one
willingly given to another party as the quote I was replying to was
about working with contracted third-party studios. In that case,
--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Benjamin Tolputt wrote:
> On 22/11/2010 2:12 AM, Martin Poirier
> wrote:
> > Stealing a copy doesn't count as distribution.
>
> The scenario I am talking about is not a "stolen"
> distribution,
You did say:
"A pay dispute, a network hack, an intern wanting to get some cred
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Campbell Barton wrote:
> And regarding this making companies paranoid - this is conjecture, But
> if some group choose to be ignorant & paranoid then this is their own
> foolishness.
>
That depends on who needs who. The companies don't need Blender. There are
plen
--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Alex Combas wrote:
> I do not think you understand what exactly he is saying.
You would think wrong.
>
> [SNIP]
>
> So in this case the "stealing" and "leaking" of the code is
> not what causes
> them to be sued
> it is simply a matter of proof to show what the company i
Hi,
t...@blender.org (2010-11-15 at 1625.15 +0100):
> Revisiting topic: why is kerning different then? If we could combine
> the crispy hinting with the narrow 1 pixel kerning, it would be all OK?
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Michael Fox
> > wrote:
[...]
> >> http://mfoxdogg.com/develo
Hi Randall,
please file a bug report, since ffmpeg custom properties were working
in Blender 2.49 .
I have to take a deeper look into the code to see, how they should
reappear in Blender 2.5 (the UI in 2.49 was aehm somewhat strange :) )
and filing a bug report, is a way to make sure, I don't
Hi,
blenderw...@gmail.com (2010-11-21 at 1117.09 -0800):
> e) the company is sued by the FSF for breaking GPL.
The FSF can only sue if they own the copyright. And that is exactly
what they do and why they ask for copyright assignment for
contributions to FSF code. In Blender case, it would had to
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:09 AM, David Jeske wrote:
> ...I'm beginning to feel like a minority in wanting Blender to one day
> become a
> real disruptive open-source alternative to these commercial tools.
>
> And why does Blender need to change it's license to do this?
You seem to equate 'succes
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Martin Poirier wrote:
> --- On Sun, 11/21/10, Benjamin Tolputt wrote:
>
> > On 22/11/2010 2:12 AM, Martin Poirier
> > wrote:
> > > Stealing a copy doesn't count as distribution.
> >
> > The scenario I am talking about is not a "stolen"
> > distribution,
>
> You d
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Dan Eicher wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:09 AM, David Jeske wrote:
> > ...I'm beginning to feel like a minority in wanting Blender to one day
> > become a real disruptive open-source alternative to these commercial
> tools.
> >
> > And why does Blender need
On 22/11/2010 2:59 AM, Martin Poirier wrote:
> "A pay dispute, a network hack, an intern wanting to get some cred online"
Yes, and this was all in the context of the *third party studio*. The pay
dispute was between one studio (the developers) and the other (third party),
not internal. The other
On 22/11/2010 3:09 AM, David Jeske wrote:
> It doesn't do Blender any good to call commercial companies "wrong" for
> being concerned about the GPL and avoiding it. Blender will still be out the
> users. Maya and 3dsmax will still be the most popular animation tools. I'm
> beginning to feel like a
>
> I believe it's important to many users (especially, but not limited to
> corporate users) to have a secondary 'proprietary plugin market', because
> they get benefit from being able to buy those plugins and use them to get
> work done, instead of waiting for a community to author them, or tryin
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Benjamin Tolputt wrote:
>
> It may be illegal (for example) for me to hack their network (& hence be
> arrested), but it is not illegal for me to distribute any GPL software I
> find there so long as they recieved it from elsewhere without changing it
> themselves
On 22/11/2010 10:46 AM, Dan Eicher wrote:
> More likely your crime would preclude you from being protected under
> thelicensing terms since you were never the legal recipient of said
> software. Just because something is under the GPL doesn't give anyone carte
> blanche permission to use, modify a
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Dan Eicher wrote:
> >
> > For
> > example, if I made an interesting game using the Blender Game Engine, I
> > could sell my game as a binary with my only obligation to release the
> > source
> > to all components of the Blender Game Engine I used, as well as any
>
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Alex Combas wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Dan Eicher wrote:
>
>> >
>> > For
>> > example, if I made an interesting game using the Blender Game Engine, I
>> > could sell my game as a binary with my only obligation to release the
>> > source
>> > to all
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
> Revision: 33216
> Log Message:
> ---
> Bugfix #24825
>
> Error in alignment code caused some buttons to draw not nicely
> aligned, like the Frame rate buttons in Render properties.
I think this commit may have had the side effect o
This caused a crash on undo/redo, committed a fix 33228.
Getting the wm from new main but you may want to double check this or
apply a different fix elsewhere.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
> Revision: 33219
>
> http://projects.blender.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Campbell Barton wrote:
>
>
> While this is what blenders GPL exception states it does seem quite
> fuzzy as to what it does/doesn't apply to.
> - python its self has many compiled extensions, ok so it
> cant/shouldn't apply to this case but where does it end?
> - w
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