[biz] hardware swap

2009-05-06 Thread Simon P. Ditner
We're going to take another shot at a hardware swap, around Saturday May 30th. If you are interested, sign up to the event on the website:   http://taug.ca/node/222 Cheers, spd -- | It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what | you know for sure that just ain't so.   --

[biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread saurin ajmeri
Hi All, I am wondering if some of you guys have think about shared co-location. As many of us starting or new in telco business its good idea to save on collocation. My idea is kind of co-op type of collocation where we goona take whole rack and will share cost between interested parties. It will

Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread John Lange
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 12:46 -0400, Ian Darwin wrote: Full Rack30A 110V AC Power A 1U server would cost $2199/n. If n=48, that's $45/month, which seems quite good I'm sure there are other issues to consider... What you've not factored in is power and cooling. A typical 1U server consumes

RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Bruce N
Great idea. I will occupy 1u right away with a strong desire to go with 5U in next 3 months. Is anyone else in? Only looking for quality providers though. -Bruce Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:23:35 -0400 From: sajm...@gmail.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] Idea about Shared

RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Bill Sandiford
Hello All: Thanks for the kind words Henry. Telnet would be happy to assist TAUG members that want to take advantage of this sort of an arrangement. We would need to go over some of the details with the group, but I'm pretty sure we can find a way to get it done and could even help with some

Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 6 May 2009, saurin ajmeri wrote: I have pricing from one of the colo provider which is Full Rack30A 110V AC Power Remote Switch PDU 100 Mbps Dedicated Unlimited Unmetered Bandwidth $2199/month People might be interested in Cernio, a co-op ISP that is about to move into 151 Front St,

Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location (fwd)

2009-05-06 Thread Paul Wouters
Forwarded for Graham, since he is not on the list and his reply bounced. Paul -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:30:07 -0700 From: Graham Freeman graham.free...@cernio.com Cc: saurin ajmeri sajm...@gmail.com, biz@taug.ca To: Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com

Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Tim St. Pierre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The company we co-locate with had some racks made up that are 5U 10U 20U and 4U (full rack) cabinets. If you have a 5U cabinet, the rack is divided up into 8 smaller cabinets, each with it's own locking door, individual network drop and AC circuit.

Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread saurin ajmeri
I've thought about it but never got it organized. There are numerous administrative issues, such as: who is the legal entity that will contract with the colo provider? what do you as a co-op do when a member can't pay? Who will spend the several hours every month forever consolidating the funds

Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Tim St. Pierre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would have to find out where they got their cabinets made. They are quite nice! I'm currently co-locating with Beanfield Technologies. They are a local metro Ethernet provider, and they have two datacenters - one at 151 Front, and the other at

RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Chuck Mariotti
Yep, I'm there too with a half rack. Unfortunately, not 5 minutes ago I got: We are actually out of space at 151! :( 151 Front St is completely full Mowat - I have 1x 1/4 and 2x 1/8's -Original Message- From: Tim St. Pierre [mailto:t...@communicatefreely.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06,

RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Bruce N
Does it even have to be an established co-op? If 40 people from this list want to even sign up for 1U each then we can take that offer and sign 40 good deals right there for every 1U without any administrative costs and overhead or headache to any of us. No registration of organization needed.

RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 6 May 2009, Bruce N wrote: Does it even have to be an established co-op? If 40 people from this list want to even sign up for 1U each then we can take that offer and sign 40 good deals right there for every 1U without any administrative costs and overhead or headache to any of us. No

Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Erik Turk
No - I think that he's saying that the We all pick one person means that we all choose the same hosting provider, who has a business that provides all the protections against liability, and knows how to price the service to take into account the churn of customers, etc... I think the co-op is one

Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 6 May 2009, Erik Turk wrote: I think the co-op is one method of providing the desired service. Another way is for us to say to existing providers - hey, we have 40 people who want this type of service - what Then you are just 40 individuals. With your own bandwidth constrains,

RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location

2009-05-06 Thread Bruce N
Thanks for the clarification Erik. Hello Paul, You may not get the best shared deal out there but it's much less headache than with a true co-op system anyways. Would you actually go out and sue the guy with only 1U server just because he bailed out? I guess you never filed in courts