Re: [Blackbelly] Copper

2010-06-14 Thread RBMuller
To all of you that worried about copper. I have always put out a dry goat mineral for my hair sheep. They also had access to a cattle mineral block which they did use at times. I have not had any toxicity problems. TX may be one of those states that doesn't have copper naturally, I don't

Re: [Blackbelly] Possible temporary fences for herding?

2010-05-03 Thread RBMuller
Hi from TX I have a small amount of training herding dogs experience. Mine is with Australian Shepherds but facilities are similar. No hot fences. Sheep have a tendency to run into them. If you are going to be herding sheep use dog broke sheep to train your BCs. The easiest are the wool

Re: [Blackbelly] CDT shots

2010-01-24 Thread RBMuller
Boy it is confusing isn't it. You will kind of have to work with what you need. I do not give CDT at all. I have a lot of acreage for the stock to run on. And that is one of the factors you will need to consider. Nor do I feed grain to the barbadoes.They do get pellets also a vitiman/mineral

Re: [Blackbelly] Breeding twice in a year

2010-01-16 Thread RBMuller
Hi all from TX, What I do is flush the ewe. That means that I feed the ewe real well for about 6 weeks before putting the ram in. But, I have found it actually better to have 3 lamb crops in 2 years. Much easier on the ewe and the human. Here in Central TX, fire ants become a concern if

Re: [Blackbelly] herding dog health

2007-12-06 Thread RBMuller
Think you all for your help. 'G' did have a tick test and all came out negative. Vet didn't think needed to do Lepto because of lack of symptoms. He is on a probios type mix. I have seriously considered raw food diet as most of products needed are grown here on the ranch. The diarrhea lasted

Re: [blackbelly] orphaned lambs

2007-02-07 Thread RBMuller
Alfalfa pellets are good for nibbling lambs! How are the orphans doing? Rhonda - Original Message - From: Johnson, Oneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] orphaned lambs OK. I feed alfalfa

Re: [blackbelly] lamb weights

2007-02-02 Thread RBMuller
Hey! Here in Central TX, weather is the determining factor for weaning. I usually breed ewes to lamb in Oct or Nov. I wean depending on winter grass. If there is sufficient grass, I wean around 3.5 months. If there has been no fall rain, or it has been late, and the ewes are having to be

Re: [blackbelly] lavendar fed lamb?!?

2006-08-25 Thread RBMuller
Wonderful question! have no idea about lavender but have some knowledge about onions. We slaughtered a number of barb lambs years ago that had been eating wild onion. Everything on the lambs smelled like onions and the meat had a wonderful oniony taste. They are what they eat! Rhonda in TX -

Re: [blackbelly] crossing AB with Dorper?

2006-08-13 Thread RBMuller
Sorry to take so long to answer! Heat is oppressive here and no rain even in sight. We are under a wild fire watch! The reason I don't feed grain is because the hair sheep and particularly the Barbadoes are not meant to eat it! They are doing better than fine on the green weeds even in this

Re: [blackbelly] crossing AB with Dorper?

2006-08-13 Thread RBMuller
On butchering a ram. Keep everything clean. We don't even have a problem with venison from a buck in rut. BUT we wear gloves when we are working around the scent area. Change gloves, don't touch the meat with any of the secretions, change knives and wash hands frequently. Cleanliness is

Re: [blackbelly] worms

2006-08-13 Thread RBMuller
I have been to several intestinal parasite clinics. What they suggest is to run cattle and/or horses after sheep and/or goats. The parasites are species specific. Just another way to control infestations if you have a variety of species. Thank you, Rhonda - Original Message - From:

Re: [blackbelly] Questionaire

2006-06-05 Thread RBMuller
Rhonda in Central Texas! Here in Central Texas we have more than likely seen our last rain until September (normal pattern). We had a very dry last winter and finally received rain in late April. The weeds are out there SO, The sheep are on their own. Mineral supplement is Vitaway sheep

Re: [blackbelly] amount of colostrum needed

2006-05-15 Thread RBMuller
Thank you Cecil for sharing your experiences. I don't respond often to the list. I too think that most people overfeed their bottle babies. In our haste to be a good steward we forget that the little critters do not have human emotion or needs. In the past I too tried to feed too much too

Re: [blackbelly] Lamb With Rash

2006-03-26 Thread RBMuller
It will pass in about 3 weeks. It will forever be in your soil!!! Sore mouth is usually brought on by some sort of stress. Flock, weather, etc. and of course the new animal in the herd. My vet has recommended NOT vaccinating because -- ONCE YOU BEGIN VACCINATING YOU WILL HAVE TO DO IT EVERY

Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags

2006-03-14 Thread RBMuller
Are other states like TX about tagging? We do NOT have to tag until the animal leaves the ranch and then only if they are 18 months or older or sold for breeding stock. I do NOT use the premise tag as an ID tag. And if the NAIS becomes law -- the same holds true. It will be for tracking

Re: [blackbelly] Lambing

2006-02-17 Thread RBMuller
Hello from still dry Central TX. I had the normal size twin and the 1/3 to 1/2 smaller #2 twin born this year. Must be nature trying to take care of the species in these drought conditions. Man just steps in and gives them extra feed and both lambs survive. It doesn't look good for rain in

Re: [blackbelly] NAIS Tagging

2005-10-11 Thread RBMuller
From what I understand about the Federal program is that the tags will all carry a chip that can be read by equipment when the stock enter the auction barns or feed lots or slaughter houses. Don't you know that this will be a huge expense. According to the large producers though, it will be a

Re: [blackbelly] PROBLEM WITH BLACKBELLY EWE.. PLEASE HELP

2005-09-21 Thread RBMuller
Londa, I read the articles about using vinegar on down livestock. Since you have taken the shotgun route for helping the ewe this can't hurt. The article said to dilute cider vinegar by 1/2 with water and drench 2 x a day with 20cc of mixture. Something about the rumen and the acidity. A lot of

Re: [blackbelly] Lousy Waco Prices

2005-09-19 Thread RBMuller
Carol, This may be a regional thing around Waco because: 1. West Texas has moved from wool varieties to hair varieties mostly Dorper and Royal White because of meat. 2 I have sold livestock guardian pups to south TX. This rancher runs an grass fed lamb market and brings his processed lamb as

Re: [blackbelly] Kale

2005-08-19 Thread RBMuller
Hi! If there is an Organic type plant nursery in your area try there. They may even be able to order it for you. Go on line and hunt for sources of beat pulp. Some areas are more sensitive to the organic type farms. Rhonda - Original Message - From: JULIE RIHA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [blackbelly] FW: Rams, Katahdin's, pregnant ewes

2005-08-19 Thread RBMuller
Gosh! 5 feet is close for a Barbado. Remember they are instinctively a wild animal! I have no problem moving mine from patch to pasture. Just watch where the sheep go as you move around and use that information to move your sheep between pastures. In previous posts it was suggested that your

Re: [blackbelly] Weaning question

2005-08-17 Thread RBMuller
I read somewhere that 2 weeks was enough. It isn't!! 3 weeks work for me. Rhonda - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: [blackbelly] Weaning question I tried going natural this year to see what the ewes would

Re: [blackbelly] More on Roundup

2005-08-14 Thread RBMuller
Cecil, You do understand the vinegar they are talking about is 20% vinegar and it runs around $13.00 a gallon. I have tried it and it has limited success on hard to kill weeds like Silver Leaf Nightshade. It is real easy to kill thistles with vinegar. And you use the 20% at full strength. There

Re: [blackbelly] More on Roundup

2005-08-14 Thread RBMuller
You have just described Sliver Leaf Nightshade and the reason that your sheep won't eat it because it is poisonous. However you will need to watch animals from parts of the country where Nightshade doesn't grow because they will eat it. The yellow balls are really poisonous. Dogs will sometimes

Re: [blackbelly] RE: Roundup alert!

2005-08-08 Thread RBMuller
If Roundup was sprayed on the Bermuda Grass it would have killed it. I would imagine that it was sprayed on the field prior to the emergence of the Bermuda Grass touching only the weeds. Round up only works when it touches green. It would not even enter the dormant Bermuda Grass. In no way am

Re: [blackbelly] Male Livestock Animals are Dangerous

2005-08-01 Thread RBMuller
There has been some wonderful comments on the dangerous ram!! Such insight and wisdom!!! I have been on a ranch just about all my life. Anytime one of our herd got mean it was gone! We have had bottle raised heifers that would kill you as soon as look at you. So now if I bottle raise a calf, as

Re: [blackbelly] lambs scours

2005-07-03 Thread RBMuller
Well, Nancy YELLOW IS THE CORRECT COLOR!! It is apparently not scours since it is yellow mustard color. Scours is generally a bacterial thing and is NOT yellow! Scours are usually a gray color and have a distinctive odor. Yellow loose poop is a food thing. Just give him a little time as long

Re: [blackbelly] (no subject)

2005-06-22 Thread RBMuller
yes!!! Blue tongue is pretty common in TX. Haven't had it here. Runs in cycles. You can go to www.ansi.okstate.edu/ This is the Oklahoma State Univ. site. You will be in the Animal Science part look up diseases. You can also go to www.animalscience.tamu.edu/ This is TX AM. Rhonda - Original

Re: [blackbelly] Question about banding ram lambs in later stages ofgrowth

2005-06-03 Thread RBMuller
From past experience, spend the extra money and have the older lamb surgically castrated. The calf will probably be too large for the lamb. You could castrate yourself but the lambs this size tend to bleed more. Spend the money with your vet! Rhonda - Original Message - From: Mary

Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Scrapie Scrapie!!!

2005-05-23 Thread RBMuller
Diane I never saw a response concerning crossing state lines. Most of the time you must have health papers on the sheep to cross state lines. Have your vet check with the other state for any requirements. And you may have to tag just to cross state lines Every law makes it harder to sell

Re: [blackbelly] baby sheep

2005-05-05 Thread RBMuller
Hey! Here in Tx those sweet little lambs start tasting around day 2. You can wean at 2 months if mom is really looking like she needs a break. Of course the longer with mom the better but if there is a ram with mom you really need to get your ewe lambs out of there no later than 4 months old.

Re: [blackbelly] worming sheep

2005-04-27 Thread RBMuller
Nancy, Mine have all pulled through when they have had bottle jaw. But I learned of a better method several years ago. Because of the worm load the sheep have by the time they have bottle jaw, sometimes with one worming they can die. What works real well is 3 wormings. Each worming is 1/2 of