On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 22:16:18 at 10:16:18PM -0500, Ben Jansens wrote:
>
> Do you use the window list cycling currently found in bbkeys?
>
1) Anything that allows you to work without the mouse is good!
2) windos list cycling is good, yes
3) open windows list in root menu and scroll it via keyboa
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:24, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> On 11-Jul-2002 Tim Howe wrote:
> > For some reason ghostview's interface doesn't seem to work under
> > blackbox. I am using Blackbox 0.62.1 on OpenBSD 3.1 and on another
> > machine running OpenBSD-current. I have the same problem on both b
Quoting Ben Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> we're not sure just what kind of feature people out there want in their
> keyhandler. So, I'd like to take a bit of a poll.
> Do you use the window list cycling currently found in bbkeys?
Yes I do, as I try to do most things without the mouse.
Here are
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:03:21 -0700 Kolbe Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure if this behavior would be compatible with the NETWM thing,
> but it would be really nice to be able to specify keysyms instead of
> just keys. For example, I have one of those multimedia keyboards and I
>
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 10:19:17 at 10:19:17AM +0200, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
>
> Here are a few things that I think would be new and I'd personally like
> added, if it's not too much :)
>
> * Mouse events. That is, the ability to assign key combinations to mouse
> events (move, click). I currently
> I can use ghostview just fine in fvwm, so I am pretty sure it's a
> blackbox issue. I am using ghostview 1.5 and ghostscript 7.
i have gv 3.5.8 and GNU Ghostscript 7.05, no problems... maybe your
ghostview is just _really_ old
Sam
--
I'm going to raise an issue and stick it in your ear.
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 11:34:32AM +0200 or thereabouts, Marco Fioretti wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 10:19:17 at 10:19:17AM +0200, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> >
> > Here are a few things that I think would be new and I'd personally like
> > added, if it's not too much :)
> >
> > * Mouse events. T
Ben Jansens wrote:
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> Hey folks.
>
> So, work has begun as of tonight on a next generation key handler for
> blackbox. It will be written against the NETWM spec as much as possible. But,
> we're not sure just what kind of feature people out th
On Wed, Jul10,02 22:35, Ben Jansens wrote:
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> On Wednesday 10 July 2002 10:33 pm, Derek Cunningham wrote:
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> > > Hey folks.
> > >
> > >
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 06:40:18 at 06:40:18AM -0400, Gerrit Hoetzel wrote:
> dito
>
> Cycling between last used windows/workspaces would be nice!
>
> bbkeys' menu-cycling feature comes handy when choosing among a huge list of windows.
> But as I tend to run several rxvt's with the same title (i.e.
Do you use BASH?
Try something like this in your .bashrc:
export PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -n
"^[]2;`hostname`:`pwd`:`history 1`^G"'
Note that the "^]" and "^G" need to be control characters.
With bash + rxvt ( + linux? ), you should get something like
this for the title of the rxvt:
chris-lap:/hom
Speaking of wrapping lines, please ignore the line wrap in
the middle of the "export" command. :)
Chris Grossmann wrote:
> Do you use BASH?
>
> Try something like this in your .bashrc:
> export PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -n
> "^[]2;`hostname`:`pwd`:`history 1`^G"'
>
> Note that the "^]" and "
Just wanted to say that I find the notion of
"rightWorkspace" "leftWorkspace" etc invaluable..
I always visualize my bbpager as a 2x4, and being able to
move pacman-like through the worskspaces is a joy. (Or is
it more like dig-dug?)
xOr wrote:
> Hey folks.
>
> So, work has begun as of to
One feature that I haven't seen mentioned is context sensitivity. I
would like the ability to have keys do different things when the pointer
is over the root window versus other WM decorations. I'd also like to
be able to pass certain keys through to selective applications.
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Thanks a lot for the hints.
I use bash (and linux).
An HOWTO about dynamic title can be found at:
http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Xterm-Title.html
A short summary:
I added the following lines to my ~/.bashrc:
if [ "$TERM" = "rxvt" ] || [ "$TERM" = "xterm" ]; then
echo -ne "\E]2;
On 11-Jul-2002 Georg Nikodym wrote:
> One feature that I haven't seen mentioned is context sensitivity. I
> would like the ability to have keys do different things when the pointer
> is over the root window versus other WM decorations. I'd also like to
> be able to pass certain keys through to s
> 3) open windows list in root menu and scroll it via keyboard is even
>better
>
because of the separation of bbkeys and blackbox, menu scrolling is not going
to happen.
>> On 11-Jul-2002 Tim Howe wrote:
>> > For some reason ghostview's interface doesn't seem to work under
>> > blackbox. I am using Blackbox 0.62.1 on OpenBSD 3.1 and on another
>> > machine running OpenBSD-current. I have the same problem on both boxes.
>> >
for the record his issue is that he ca
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:19:17 +0200 (MEST)
Ciprian Popovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Mouse events. That is, the ability to assign key combinations to mouse
> events (move, click). I currently use external apps that I call thru exec
> with bbkeys.
I'm not sure what you mean, but here is a lis
Sam Halliday declaimed:
> > I can use ghostview just fine in fvwm, so I am pretty sure it's a
> > blackbox issue. I am using ghostview 1.5 and ghostscript 7.
> i have gv 3.5.8 and GNU Ghostscript 7.05, no problems... maybe your
> ghostview is just _really_ old
>
My understanding is that 'ghostvi
I installed gv and it works great. Thank you for the info. I can stop
bitching now and get down to some typesetting... =]
TimH
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:49:01 -0700
paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sam Halliday declaimed:
> > > I can use ghostview just fine in fvwm, so I am pretty sure it's a
I see there has been some discussion about being able to invoke the menu
and navigate it using the keyboard.
What's the definitive word on this?
-Roy
Anyone else working with JBuilder and Blackbox?
With other window managers, JBuilder's dialogs are okay, but with
Blackbox, they open way too big (as in much larger than the actual screen
size).
Any thoughts on what's up? Is BB providing some hinting for window sizes
that is screwing things
On 11-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote:
> I see there has been some discussion about being able to invoke the menu
> and navigate it using the keyboard.
>
> What's the definitive word on this?
>
>
> -Roy
basically the only way it will happen is to move bbkeys back into blackbox
proper.
On 11-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote:
> Anyone else working with JBuilder and Blackbox?
>
> With other window managers, JBuilder's dialogs are okay, but with
> Blackbox, they open way too big (as in much larger than the actual screen
> size).
>
>
> Any thoughts on what's up? Is BB providing some hi
Have you or a friend recently been through a college programming course where
they forced you to learn Java? Now is your chance to use this knowledge to
help the blackbox community.
We are receiving reports of odd sized windows. Transients, main windows, all
of them. Simple programs which open
Roy Wood wrote:
>Anyone else working with JBuilder and Blackbox?
>
>With other window managers, JBuilder's dialogs are okay, but with
>Blackbox, they open way too big (as in much larger than the actual screen
>size).
>
>
>Any thoughts on what's up? Is BB providing some hinting for window sizes
OK, maybe this would help a little.
Launched JBuilder and did xprop and xwininfo on the "Tip of the Day"
dialog that appears first (greatly and incorrectly oversized)
Blackbox version is 0.65b2, X screen resolution is 1024x768 (24bit).
I did not move, resize or touch anything before doing these c
Can you do the same in a different wm? Maybe twm?
Øyvind Stegard wrote:
> OK, maybe this would help a little.
> Launched JBuilder and did xprop and xwininfo on the "Tip of the Day"
> dialog that appears first (greatly and incorrectly oversized)
> Blackbox version is 0.65b2, X screen resolut
> WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
> program specified location: 278, 241
> program specified size: 1054 by 743
> window gravity: NorthWest
this is the baffling bit. Blackbox is doing EXACTLY what the program asked it
to do. These hints are set wh
>this is the baffling bit. Blackbox is doing EXACTLY what
>the program asked it to do.
Weird. Anyone with any sort of familiarity with another wm have any idea
what they are doing that is different?
-Roy
On 11-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote:
>>this is the baffling bit. Blackbox is doing EXACTLY what
>>the program asked it to do.
>
> Weird. Anyone with any sort of familiarity with another wm have any idea
> what they are doing that is different?
>
>
> -Roy
I have read the twm, wmaker, and E code.
Hello,
Mandrake generates a blackbox menu automatically. Just include
/etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu in your blackbox menu. You can also edit it using the
menudrake utility. In menudrake, make sure you change your environment to blackbox.
Ben
the pAved earth
http://www.thepavedearth.com
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On 11-Jul-2002 Ben Rasmussen wrote:
> Hello,
> Mandrake generates a blackbox menu automatically. Just include
> /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu in your blackbox menu. You can also edit it
> using the menudrake utility. In menudrake, make sure you change your
> environment to blackbox.
>
>>
sa
Hi again
Just tested JBuilder with twm and then Sawfish, and the oversized dialog
box problem never happened, so I'm pretty sure that the problem is
Blackbox<->JavaVM/JBuilder related.
Here are the results of xprop and xwininfo under twm (exactly same
situation/dialog as before)
(I have not c
Enclosed is the verbose patch i mentioned on the Java thread.
gunzip verbose.patch.gz
cd blackbox
patch -p0 < /path/to/verbose.patch
make
when you run the new binary the path from initial request to final display has
a print whenever the window size would have changed. There are also additional
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 09:52:08PM +0200, ?yvind Stegard wrote:
> Hi again
>
> Just tested JBuilder with twm and then Sawfish, and the oversized dialog
> box problem never happened, so I'm pretty sure that the problem is
> Blackbox<->JavaVM/JBuilder related.
>
> Here are the results of xprop a
> Enclosed is the verbose patch i mentioned on the Java thread.
Are you still willing to "install" a Java-app. and try for
yourself? I've just "created" (read: modified an existing)
one which reproduces the error 1 time out of 2-5 times you
try...
> gunzip verbose.patch.gz
> cd blackbox
> patc
>
>
> Does twm/others set some sort of root hint that it could be using? Does
> blackbox? I can't think of another way for it to behave differently..
>
xprop on root shows no hints under twm, wmaker sets a few. I really see
nothing.
I am hoping the user tests will at least give me enough inf
On 11-Jul-2002 Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote:
>> Enclosed is the verbose patch i mentioned on the Java thread.
> Are you still willing to "install" a Java-app. and try for
> yourself? I've just "created" (read: modified an existing)
> one which reproduces the error 1 time out of 2-5 times you
> t
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 11:33:14PM -0400, Derek Cunningham wrote:
> On Wed, Jul10,02 22:16, Ben Jansens wrote:
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> > Hey folks.
> >
> > So, work has begun as of tonight on a next generation key handler for
> > blackbox. It will be written
OK, here's what I've done:
* Applied verbose patch and enabled debugging in blackbox (perhaps I
shouldn't have done that ?)
* Started X with nothing but blackbox (Directed output from blackbox to
file (both STDERR and OUT))
* Opened an aterm
* Launched JBuilder (with personal settings file dele
On 11-Jul-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote:
> OK, here's what I've done:
> * Applied verbose patch and enabled debugging in blackbox (perhaps I
> shouldn't have done that ?)
> * Started X with nothing but blackbox (Directed output from blackbox to
> file (both STDERR and OUT))
> * Opened an aterm
> *
Is there a way to start a prg in workspace no. X ?
If so, how to implement into the default X-startup script ?
I would like to initially start (using xtoolwait ?) an
xterm in workspace No. 1
mozilla in workspace No. 2
...
--
Gerrit Hoetzel
http://www.hzhome.mine.nu/gt/
Ok, to further track this down, I added a new print much earlier in the
process. This is the absolute earliest that blackbox is aware of the window
and 100% could have done nothing to affect it. No X calls have been made on
the client's behalf at this point.
Apply it on top of the previous patc
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:23:33 -0400
"Roy Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone else working with JBuilder and Blackbox?
>
> With other window managers, JBuilder's dialogs are okay, but with
> Blackbox, they open way too big (as in much larger than the actual
> screen size).
What version of
On 11-Jul-2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> Ok, to further track this down, I added a new print much earlier in the
> process. This is the absolute earliest that blackbox is aware of the window
> and 100% could have done nothing to affect it. No X calls have been made on
> the client's behalf at
On 11-Jul-2002 Nils Grundback wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:23:33 -0400
> "Roy Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Anyone else working with JBuilder and Blackbox?
>>
>> With other window managers, JBuilder's dialogs are okay, but with
>> Blackbox, they open way too big (as in much larger th
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
>Ok, to further track this down, I added a new print much earlier in the
>process. This is the absolute earliest that blackbox is aware of the window
>and 100% could have done nothing to affect it. No X calls have been made on
>the client's behalf at this point.
>
>Ap
On Thursday 11 July 2002 03:41 pm, you wrote:
> Hello,
> Mandrake generates a blackbox menu automatically. Just include
> /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu in your blackbox menu. You can also edit
> it using the menudrake utility. In menudrake, make sure you change your
> environment to blackbox.
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry declaimed:
> Have you or a friend recently been through a college programming course where
> they forced you to learn Java? Now is your chance to use this knowledge to
> help the blackbox community.
>
> We are receiving reports of odd sized windows. Transients, main windows,
Brandon Thigpen wrote:
> What I would like to see the most is the ability to bind keys to pop
> up the root menu, and be able to move around in it using the vi keys
> (j,k,l,etc). I also use Alt+Tab for window switching, and have set
> up bbkeys to start some programs I use often:
>
> Alt+
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:32:15 +0200
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tried to apply patch, it asked for what file to patch. Sorry, but I have
> very little experience in using the patch command. Perhaps it's
> Blackbox.cc ? Some patch output seemed to indicate this.
the second patch sould be applie
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:40:24 -0700 (PDT)
"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you or a friend recently been through a college programming course
> where they forced you to learn Java? Now is your chance to use this
> knowledge to help the blackbox community.
Hmmm no real coll
>
>> We are receiving reports of odd sized windows. Transients, main
>> windows, all of them. Simple programs which open and modify windows
>> sizes AND demonstrate this bug would be VERY helpful.
>
> Attached is a simple GUI java app which can reproduce the problem ~ 1 in 5
> times under Bl
On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 08:57, Derek Cunningham wrote:
> On Wed, Jul10,02 22:35, Ben Jansens wrote:
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> > On Wednesday 10 July 2002 10:33 pm, Derek Cunningham wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul10,02 22:16, Ben Jansens wrote:
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:25:46 -0700 (PDT)
"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> as I commented on the other thread, my second patch has a small problem.
>
> s/xmaprequest.parent/xmaprequest.window/;
Grrr I thought I'd gotten all of those. Should have use the F&R
function rathe
On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:25:46 -0700 (PDT)
> "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> as I commented on the other thread, my second patch has a small problem.
>>
>> s/xmaprequest.parent/xmaprequest.window/;
>
>
> Grrr I thought I'd gotte
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:39:32 -0700 (PDT)
"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote:
>
> > Grrr I thought I'd gotten all of those. Should have use the F&R
> > function rather than eyeballing it. =( If it would help I can rerun
> > the tests.
>
On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:39:32 -0700 (PDT)
> "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote:
>>
>> > Grrr I thought I'd gotten all of those. Should have use the F&R
>> > function rather than eyeballing it. =
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 3) open windows list in root menu and scroll it via keyboard is even
> >better
> >
> because of the separation of bbkeys and blackbox, menu scrolling is not going
> to happen.
I long this feature. Ca
Gerrit Hoetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a way to start a prg in workspace no. X ?
>
> If so, how to implement into the default X-startup script ?
> I would like to initially start (using xtoolwait ?) an
> xterm in workspace No. 1
> mozilla in workspace No. 2
> ...
bblaunch ?
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