On 12/21/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe so, but I bet the KDE download/build is still faster. To do an
> install, you really only need three packages to come up-aRts, libs, and
> base. All the others are optional. Gnome has at least 30 packages
> just for basic functionalit
Tushar Teredesai wrote:
> On 12/21/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> You've done a tremendous job. Unfortunately, the method that XOrg has
>>come up with sucks. 200 separate CMMI packages is not reasonable. They
>>need to package them up similar to KDE's packages. They make Gnom
On 12/21/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You've done a tremendous job. Unfortunately, the method that XOrg has
> come up with sucks. 200 separate CMMI packages is not reasonable. They
> need to package them up similar to KDE's packages. They make Gnome look
> like a small task.
On 12/21/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Of course, when we install new libraries, we would need to
>
> rm /var/tmp/config.cache
>
Which would be every other package thereby removing any advantage of
the cache file. As mentioned in the documentation, it creates more
problems than it
martin ward wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith has put up a basic description of what each bit does
> on the mailing list a few weeks ago, heres the link
>
> http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-modular/2005-November/000801.html
Thanks for that. Very useful.
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Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
>> Issue a wget to fetch all the packages.
>> Run a script to CMMI the packages in the correct order.
>> Describe what the script does.
>> Write documentation page(s) that summarizes each package.
>
>
> Why not use a pre-made script?
Thomas Pegg wrote:
Thomas Pegg wrote:
I can give you the link myself: http://www.tpegg.org/20051203/
Just a fair warning this a preliminary setup, there's still some more
pieces that need to be added.
I should add some more to this, hit send too quick.
As you can tell this would add ab
Justin R. Knierim wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Unfortunately, the method that XOrg has come up with sucks. 200
separate CMMI packages is not reasonable. They need to package them
up similar to KDE's packages. They make Gnome look like a small task.
Yeah, you are right, it is unreasonable.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 10:25:41PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> Of course, when we install new libraries, we would need to
>
> rm /var/tmp/config.cache
Might be safer to use /tmp instead of /var/tmp so the cache doesn't
stick around too long.
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Tushar Teredesai wrote:
> On 12/21/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.57/html_node/autoconf_86.html
Thanks for that link.
Should we recommend or at least mention that users could create
/usr/share/site.config:
if test "$cache_file
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Issue a wget to fetch all the packages.
Run a script to CMMI the packages in the correct order.
Describe what the script does.
Write documentation page(s) that summarizes each package.
Why not use a pre-made script?
http://cvs.freedesktop.org/*checkout*/xorg/util/
On 12/21/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Perhaps we can use the jhbuild method or come up with our own scripts.
>
> This is what I thought of:
>
> Issue a wget to fetch all the packages.
> Run a script to CMMI the packages in the correct order.
> Describe what the script do
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Unfortunately, the method that XOrg has come up with sucks. 200 separate CMMI
packages is not reasonable. They need to package them up similar to KDE's
packages. They make Gnome look like a small task.
Yeah, you are right, it is unreasonable. Does anyone know if each
Thomas Pegg wrote:
I can give you the link myself: http://www.tpegg.org/20051203/
This doesn't build an OpenGL capable X server. You also need MesaLib and
libdrm installed.
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On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:07:03PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> OK, but use active voice: "The Sudo developers highly recommend..."
<..>
> Yes. Use sudo because you are talking about
> the package.
Will do.
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Harde
Archaic wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:56:47AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
>> Most experienced administrators recomend using...
>
>
> I can't honestly make that statement in good conscience. I can say with
> accuracy that "It is highly recommended by the Sudo developers to
> use..."
OK, b
Thomas Pegg wrote:
> Thomas Pegg wrote:
>
>>>
>> I can give you the link myself: http://www.tpegg.org/20051203/
>>
>> Just a fair warning this a preliminary setup, there's still some more
>> pieces that need to be added.
>
>
> I should add some more to this, hit send too quick.
>
> As you can t
DJ Lucas wrote:
Thomas Pegg wrote:
Thomas Pegg has a general structure up already. He just mentioned it in
livecd (don't have the email handy to provide a link, though).
I can give you the link myself: http://www.tpegg.org/20051203/
Just a fair warning this a preliminary setup, there's stil
Thomas Pegg wrote:
I can give you the link myself: http://www.tpegg.org/20051203/
Just a fair warning this a preliminary setup, there's still some more
pieces that need to be added.
I should add some more to this, hit send too quick.
As you can tell this would add about 200+ (if my count
Thomas Pegg wrote:
Thomas Pegg has a general structure up already. He just mentioned it in
livecd (don't have the email handy to provide a link, though).
I can give you the link myself: http://www.tpegg.org/20051203/
Just a fair warning this a preliminary setup, there's still some more
piec
Archaic wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:13:23PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Do we have anyone on the list that has started to look at this?
Thomas Pegg has a general structure up already. He just mentioned it in
livecd (don't have the email handy to provide a link, though).
I can give you
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Well the new modular X has been released. Perhaps its a bit early, but
Damnit, just looked about two hours ago and they hadn't put up the final
cut.
I took a look at http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/ and
don't know how we are going to approach it. It loo
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:56:47AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> Most experienced administrators recomend using...
I can't honestly make that statement in good conscience. I can say with
accuracy that "It is highly recommended by the Sudo developers to
use..."
And if I go with that, should I t
In light of recent discussions, I have submitted a request to Mozilla
for permission to use their name and logos on the LiveCD. I included
URLs to the summary thread in BLFS so that they could see the set of
instructions we'll likely use with 1.5, and links to our current build
scripts.
Now t
Dan Nicholson wrote:
> On 12/21/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>The mozilla-run.sh script ends up setting among other things:
>>
>>export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME LD_LIBRARY_PATH
>>
>>It may well be that MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME is not strictly necessary, but it
>>is expected by the developers.
>
On 12/21/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The mozilla-run.sh script ends up setting among other things:
>
> export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME LD_LIBRARY_PATH
>
> It may well be that MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME is not strictly necessary, but it
> is expected by the developers.
That might be true, but in t
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Another place to look is in /usr/bin/firefox.
This is a script which in turn runs mozilla-run.sh
The mozilla-run.sh script ends up setting among other things:
export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Exactly, MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME is set at run time, it doesn't need to be set
Feldmeier Bernd wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Well, if have a little bit different question.
>
> As I dont want to install any development tools
> in chapter 6 final LFS to keep the rootfs small for embedded purpose,
> is it okay to always use the /tools toolchain in
> temp chroot system for e.g. BLFS cr
Archaic wrote:
> Okay, I killed 2 birds with one stone and added visudo and removed the
> sed. However, I currently have no graphical browser with which to look
> at the output before commit. The relevant page is at:
>
> http://linuxfromscratch.org/~archaic/blfs-book/postlfs/sudo.html
>
> The con
On 12/21/05, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Randy's right about those things being on by default. These were
comments in the original mozconfig I created to track them, but they
can safely be left out.
> --enable-update-packaging: I have no clue here. Never seen it used,
> nor read ab
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 12/21/05 09:12 CST:
> I second this. I personally am not going to use default-mozilla-five
> home and see what happens. In my research, it's only included as a
> #define in the headers, so the question is whether other applications
> that use firefox need this
Randy McMurchy wrote:
In no way, shape or form am a trying to dismiss your suggestions
with the following comments. Know this right off the bat. However,
here are some thoughts.
Yep. That's all I wanted. Just some feedback. :)
--enable-application=browser is passed from the ./browser/config/m
On 12/21/05, Andrew Benton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> > One place to look is modules/oji/tests/build/README:
> >
>
> People hacking on mozillas java integration are probably capable of writing
> their own mozconfig and thus can set a default-mozilla-five-home for
> themselv
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 12/21/05 07:52 CST:
> Of these, should we perhaps include the following?
>
> --enable-application=browser
> --enable-optimize
> --disable-debug
> --enable-update-packaging
In no way, shape or form am a trying to dismiss your suggestions
with the following com
On 12/20/05, Archaic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ac_add_options --with-system-zlib
> > ac_add_options --with-system-png
> > ac_add_options --with-system-jpeg
>
> Would the cairo option best fit here? IIRC, cairo *will* be used whether
> in tree or not so is less attached to the svg option and mo
On 12/20/05, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Looks good, Randy.
> # This option sets the default binary directory of the Firefox
> # installation and is used to locate Firefox's installed files.
> ac_add_options --with-default-mozilla-five-home=/usr/lib/firefox-1.5
This is the only one
On 12/20/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know you are paranoid, but this construct doesn't hurt anything. It
> is also used in commercial distos. A quick check and I see RedHat uses
> it.
RedHat/Fedora does do this. I was quite surprised the first time I
realized I was creating g
Hi all,
Well, if have a little bit different question.
As I dont want to install any development tools
in chapter 6 final LFS to keep the rootfs small for embedded purpose,
is it okay to always use the /tools toolchain in
temp chroot system for e.g. BLFS creation??
l also need to change the PAT
Salut !
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Hey Guys:
Sorry for breaking threading on this. Writing this from my work PC...
Randy, the configure options you showed
(http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/blfs-dev/2005-December/012572.html)
look good.
I just took a quick look at the about:buildconfig in the Windows binary
r
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
One place to look is modules/oji/tests/build/README:
People hacking on mozillas java integration are probably capable of writing
their own mozconfig and thus can set a default-mozilla-five-home for
themselves. Does it really need to be a default BLFS option? I never set a
Salut !
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entre 18 et 40 ans.
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:39:40 -0600
Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah. Functionally. But WTF is a Deer Park?
A place you hunt old dears. Most Stately Homes in England have one,
killing animals for sport is an old aristo tradition. At least they've
given up hunding ph^heasants
R.
Okay, I killed 2 birds with one stone and added visudo and removed the
sed. However, I currently have no graphical browser with which to look
at the output before commit. The relevant page is at:
http://linuxfromscratch.org/~archaic/blfs-book/postlfs/sudo.html
The concern is that I added a NOTE b
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:49:45 -0600
Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did want to raise a related issue. Should we discuss adding plugins
> to support many of the pages on the web? Things like flash, audio and
> video, etc. Perhaps these should be on a separate page for plugger.
I hav
Richard A Downing wrote these words on 12/21/05 01:51 CST:
> Me too. Shrek reminds me of 'Real Life'.
>
> 'The purpose of our lives is to be happy' (Dalai Lama)
Well, that is so cool. For a long time I thought you to be a
somewhat tired executive, sort of contributing to the project in
a cynic
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:49:48 -0600
Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> long and ugly
>
> Here we go:
>
> 1) +1
> 2) +1
>
> 3) The way I see it, the following dependencies can be adjusted as
> they either are a)not practical or b)cannot be used:
>
> A) +1
>
> B) +1 - need Firefox
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