Final call - License agreements

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Not too long ago there was a discussion about piping 'yes' through to the installation script of packages to avoid having to agree to the license. I believe the majority here determined that we really ought not be doing that. There are 4 packages in BLFS that pipe 'yes' to automate instru

Re: Final call - License agreements

2006-01-08 Thread Archaic
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:03:50AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I still prefer some comment in the book of how to use the yes program to > provide an example to users in accordance with the educational goals of > the book. Note that net-tools will not be changing since that yes contruction doesn

Re: Current SVN issues.

2006-01-08 Thread Dimitry Naldayev
Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Randy McMurchy wrote: >> I'm thinking it was pulled out of the instructions because LFS-6.0 >> required a specific version of the stylesheets referenced as >> 'current'. But I could be wrong. >> Matthew, does this sound right? > > My memory is hazy on

Re: Current SVN issues.

2006-01-08 Thread Dimitry Naldayev
Dimitry Naldayev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: strange things... why I get the such old message?... sorry... > >> Randy McMurchy wrote: >>> I'm thinking it was pulled out of the instructions because LFS-6.0 >>> required a specific version of the styleshe

RFC: Implementing Trac [long]

2006-01-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greetings All: Recent discussions on the blfs-dev list have shown that there is a desire/need for a wiki once again. It would make adding and documenting new information in BLFS about i18n and multilib a lot easier, especially considering that the current editorial staff in BLFS are not (yet!) exp

Re: RFC: Implementing Trac [long]

2006-01-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > At this point we have basically three directions we could take, and I > would like to get your feedback, please. I like the general look and feel of trac, but I would prefer to use it to: 1. Replace Bugzilla 2. Replace ViewCVS 3. Be a target for multilib/i18n issues.

Re: RFC: Implementing Trac [long]

2006-01-08 Thread Thomas Pegg
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Note that if the community prefers items 2 or 3, I would still like to use the new logo on our exisiting sites, so comments on that are welcome as well. I very much like the way you can view the subversion tree, and the bugzilla bugs now converted to tickets are much

Re: RFC: Implementing Trac [long]

2006-01-08 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/8/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > > At this point we have basically three directions we could take, and I > > would like to get your feedback, please. > > I like the general look and feel of trac, but I would prefer to use it to: > > 1. Replace Bugzilla

KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, The KDE Multimedia package has changed significantly. Most notably, the aKode package has been removed and is now a stand-alone package in KDE-SVN. This package is what in the past has supported MPEG, Speex, FLAC, libsamplerate, JACK, Polypaudio and other multimedia features. Much is lost

Re: RFC: Implementing Trac [long]

2006-01-08 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: At this point we have basically three directions we could take, and I would like to get your feedback, please. 1) Use Trac for our entire online presence, including our website. I'm not so sure about implementing the whole lfs website in it. I guess it could be incorpo

Re: Final call - License agreements

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Archaic wrote these words on 01/08/06 13:43 CST: > Note that net-tools will not be changing since that yes contruction > doesn't bypass a license, so the educational aspect is still in place. Well, as a compromise, and what I think is a good solution, I would like to create a section in Chapter 2

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/08/06 21:38 CST: > Editor creates aKode-version.tar.bz2 file for the mirrors. Yes, not too difficult once you figure out KDE's idiosyncracies. > User: > extract kdemultimedia (implicit) > cd kdemultimedia (implicit) > tar -xf ../aKode-version.tar.bz2 > ./con

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/08/06 21:50 CST: > Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/08/06 21:38 CST: > >>Editor creates aKode-version.tar.bz2 file for the mirrors. > > Yes, not too difficult once you figure out KDE's idiosyncracies. And here is our choices: 1) Direct the user to down

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/08/06 21:38 CST: >>User: >>extract kdemultimedia (implicit) >>cd kdemultimedia (implicit) >>tar -xf ../aKode-version.tar.bz2 >>./configure... >> >>Is that correct? > > > Well, it isn't that easy. The aKode package must actually be > ins

Re: Final call - License agreements

2006-01-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Archaic wrote these words on 01/08/06 13:43 CST: > > >>Note that net-tools will not be changing since that yes contruction >>doesn't bypass a license, so the educational aspect is still in place. > > > Well, as a compromise, and what I think is a good solution, I would >

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/08/06 21:50 CST: > >>Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/08/06 21:38 CST: >> >> >>>Editor creates aKode-version.tar.bz2 file for the mirrors. >> >>Yes, not too difficult once you figure out KDE's idiosyncracies. > > > And here is ou

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/08/06 22:18 CST: > OK, but reviewing, should this be just before aRts? I would have to go back and look at the aRts configure log, but I'm almost certain that it doesn't look for it. So, it really doesn't matter when it is installed, as long as it is before kde

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Keep in mind, up until this version of KDE, the aKode stuff was > packaged *with* kdemultimedia, therefore, aRts or any other > package could have no knowledge of it. Good point. Just keep it with kdemultimedia then. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/l

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/08/06 22:26 CST: > I think we need to host the smaller tarball ourselves and tell the users > where we got it. Then we tell them about the "make -f Makefile.cvs" so > they can do it themselves if they get a different version directly from > the KDE SVN. Good

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Chris Staub
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, The KDE Multimedia package has changed significantly. Most notably, the aKode package has been removed and is now a stand-alone package in KDE-SVN. This package is what in the past has supported MPEG, Speex, FLAC, libsamplerate, JACK, Polypaudio and other multimedia

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/08/06 22:26 CST: I think we need to host the smaller tarball ourselves and tell the users where we got it. Then we tell them about the "make -f Makefile.cvs" so they can do it themselves if they get a different version directly from

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Chris Staub wrote these words on 01/08/06 22:34 CST: > Just wondering, where exactly is it in kde's svn repository? I still see > it in trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/akode_artsplugin That is what is now in kdemultimedia that hooks to the aKode stuff already on your system (if you installed it). To get

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Chris Staub
Chris Staub wrote: Just wondering, where exactly is it in kde's svn repository? I still see it in trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/akode_artsplugin Also, KDE's svn sources look specifically for KDE's "unsermake" to compile (as well as running 'make -f Makefile.cvs') so instructions for that would

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Justin R. Knierim wrote these words on 01/08/06 22:50 CST: > Sounds good to me. If an official BLFS dev made one is wanted, you can > do that and send to me, or I can make one myself following the > instructions and upload. It is all fine with me. Please, hold off for right now. I want to mak

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Randy McMurchy wrote: Please, hold off for right now. I want to make sure that everything (including kdemultimedia) works as expected. You can see my last message for the method to create a tarball, however, I'll let you know when we should do it (you'll also see the book updated!). Ok, will

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Chris Staub
Chris Staub wrote: Chris Staub wrote: Just wondering, where exactly is it in kde's svn repository? I still see it in trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/akode_artsplugin Also, KDE's svn sources look specifically for KDE's "unsermake" to compile (as well as running 'make -f Makefile.cvs') so instructi

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Chris Staub wrote these words on 01/08/06 22:52 CST: > Also, KDE's svn sources look specifically for KDE's "unsermake" to > compile (as well as running 'make -f Makefile.cvs') so instructions for > that would need to be added as well. No, not here. Typically, that is correct, but not here. Just

Re: KDE-Multmedia

2006-01-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Chris Staub wrote these words on 01/08/06 23:03 CST: > Hmmm, looks like this is just needed if you checkout with svn. If you > download a snapshot from ftp.kde.org it doesn't need unsermake. My understanding is that unsermake is only needed for the newer (KDE-4.x) branch, which is now "trunk". I