[blfs-dev] ffmpeg nitpick part ii (flattening)

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Nathan's email reminded me that there's also a dubious statement on the current ffmpeg page. The page references using qt-faststart to 'flatten' files by moving the index to the front of the file. Indeed, qt-faststart does move the moov atom (which contains metadata about the video) to the fron

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 05:50:31PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> My only concern is to keep something like the /etc directory at a >> reasonable number of entries. Right now I have 90. Compare that to >> ubuntu that has 217 or RHEL with 199. I think of the /etc directory as

Re: [blfs-dev] ffmpeg nitpick

2011-12-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:25:30 -0800 Nathan Coulson wrote: > Just noticed it references yasm, but does not point to the BLFS page > My fault. Yasm wasn't in the book when I did the ffmpeg page. I'll fix it now. Thanks for the heads up. Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-de

[blfs-dev] ffmpeg nitpick

2011-12-20 Thread Nathan Coulson
Just noticed it references yasm, but does not point to the BLFS page -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 05:50:31PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > My only concern is to keep something like the /etc directory at a > reasonable number of entries. Right now I have 90. Compare that to > ubuntu that has 217 or RHEL with 199. I think of the /etc directory as > a place where I m

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On my partial-gnome installation (apart from the gnome2 packages > previously mentioned, I built gcalctool, gucharmap, > epiphany{,-extensions}, gstreamer/plugins, totem, yelp from 3.2 - > plus their many required dependencies) I have the following > directories in /etc/gnome:

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 02:46:14PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > > > I don't see Gnome as a package. GConf is a package, libgnome is a package, > > Gnome is a Suite of packages. > > That's true AFAICT. In fact, I was looking at the Gnome sources > yesterday at http://ftp.

Re: [blfs-dev] firefox-9.0 libpng problem

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:33:44PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > I was going to defer asking this (Andy only put 9.0 in the book > today, Oh Calamity! Wrong list - sorry for the noise. -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-d

[blfs-dev] firefox-9.0 libpng problem

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Moffat
I was going to defer asking this (Andy only put 9.0 in the book today, and [ for those who don't follow -dev ] at the moment only the ftp works - until mozilla copy the tarball to the http link. Plus, I'm not expecting to be able to use my machine much, if at all, tomorrow (electricity meter chang

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 02:58:55PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > > > Just looking at my gnome 2.30.2 installation. You can also argue that > > having /etc/gnome is not compliant because it has dbus in two locations > > /etc/gnome/2.30.2/dbus-1 and /etc/dbus-1. > > Are they

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:58:55 -0600 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > In /etc/dbus-1 I have: > >session.conf session.d system.conf system.d > > where the two directories are empty. Incidentally, even though /etc/dbus-1/session.d is empty, dbus won't work if it doesn't exist. Andy -- http://linuxfro

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > Just looking at my gnome 2.30.2 installation. You can also argue that > having /etc/gnome is not compliant because it has dbus in two locations > /etc/gnome/2.30.2/dbus-1 and /etc/dbus-1. Are they the same? In /etc/dbus-1 I have: session.conf session.d system.conf

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
On 21/12/11 07:22, Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: >> Only issue is the FHS says that if possible *always* keep >> same-package sysconf data in a subdirectory of /etc. Such >> as /etc/gnome. > I don't see Gnome as a package. GConf is a package, libgnome is a package, > Gnome is a Suite of packages. > J

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > On 21/12/11 05:36, Randy McMurchy wrote: >> On 12/20/2011 11:24 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> Andrew Benton wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > My preference is option 4) /etc (Something that Fedora and Ubuntu uses, > just

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
On 21/12/11 05:36, Randy McMurchy wrote: > On 12/20/2011 11:24 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Andrew Benton wrote: >>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 >>> Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: >>> My preference is option 4) /etc (Something that Fedora and Ubuntu uses, just to name a few) >>> >>> +1 for t

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 12/20/2011 3:10 AM, Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > As in my version of the book, (Option 5) I opted to have a > $GNOME_SYSCONFDIR variable rather than a semi hard coded path. That way, > the user can decide what path they choose to use, just like with > $GNOME_PREFIX. I also think this is good. All t

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:59:31 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Doesn't --sysconfdir=/etc imply /etc/gnome? I thought the problem was >> moving it away from /usr/etc/gnome. > > It's /etc/gconf That's fine. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:59:31 -0600 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Doesn't --sysconfdir=/etc imply /etc/gnome? I thought the problem was > moving it away from /usr/etc/gnome. It's /etc/gconf Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > On 12/20/2011 11:24 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Andrew Benton wrote: >>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 >>> Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: >>> My preference is option 4) /etc (Something that Fedora and Ubuntu uses, just to name a few) >>> +1 for this. I install my gconf

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 12/20/2011 11:24 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 >> Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: >> >>> My preference is option 4) /etc (Something that Fedora and Ubuntu uses, >>> just to name a few) >> >> +1 for this. I install my gconf stuff --sysconfdir=/etc > >

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9125 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/lib xsoft/graphweb

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 05:12:38PM +, Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:44:25 + >> Ken Moffat wrote: >> >>> Actually, I should rephrase the question - *how* do you get the >>> release tarball ? >> Sorry, I used the ftp link. I didn't realise the http link

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9125 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/lib xsoft/graphweb

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 05:12:38PM +, Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:44:25 + > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > > Actually, I should rephrase the question - *how* do you get the > > release tarball ? > > Sorry, I used the ftp link. I didn't realise the http link was a 404. > Sh

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 > Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > >> My preference is option 4) /etc (Something that Fedora and Ubuntu uses, >> just to name a few) > > +1 for this. I install my gconf stuff --sysconfdir=/etc I agree. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9125 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/lib xsoft/graphweb

2011-12-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:44:25 + Ken Moffat wrote: > Andy, is the release tarball available yet ? on lynx I get a 404, > and if I go to the 9.0 directory I get: > >Thanks for your interest in Firefox 9 >

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9125 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/lib xsoft/graphweb

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 07:14:20AM -0700, a...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: > Author: andy > Date: 2011-12-20 07:14:09 -0700 (Tue, 20 Dec 2011) > New Revision: 9125 > > Modified: >trunk/BOOK/general.ent >trunk/BOOK/introduction/welcome/changelog.xml >trunk/BOOK/x/lib/xulrunner.xml >

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > My preference is option 4) /etc (Something that Fedora and Ubuntu uses, > just to name a few) +1 for this. I install my gconf stuff --sysconfdir=/etc Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxf

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
On 20/12/11 11:46, Ken Moffat wrote: > I'm starting to gather my data to update the gnome2 packages that I . > > So, my own preference is for /etc/gnome, or failing that to move > the legacy packages I mentioned the other day to using /etc/gnome2 > or -2 or -2.32. But what do other people,