Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-11-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Miguel Bazdresch wrote these words on 08/20/05 21:29 CST: * Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-21 01:50]: I haven't forgotten about your suggestions, Miguel. I'll be doing some research about your suggestions and putting the stuff into the book. I was hoping others would contribute some

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Miguel Bazdresch wrote these words on 08/11/05 19:36 CST: About suggestions for other packages: oprofile is a nice alternative to valgrind: http://oprofile.sourceforge.net/news/ We might consider adding more RCS packages, since source control is a basic developers' tool. We might add darcs,

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-20 Thread Miguel Bazdresch
* Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-21 01:50]: I haven't forgotten about your suggestions, Miguel. I'll be doing some research about your suggestions and putting the stuff into the book. I was hoping others would contribute some more ideas, and I'd do it all at once. That's good to

Creating logs of builds (was - Re: Addition to Chapter 12)

2005-08-10 Thread Richard A Downing
Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 8/9/05, David Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though I don't have an install.log file... Is that standard? (Aw crap, now I'm showing that I don't know how to create this file! :P) See the last paragraph in

Re: Creating logs of builds (was - Re: Addition to Chapter 12)

2005-08-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Archaic wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 07:25:27AM +0100, Richard A Downing wrote: My way now is never to type the commands directly, but create a scriptlet for each package built from a template that is essentially Bruce's script plus some checks. And to take automation one step further,

Re: Creating logs of builds (was - Re: Addition to Chapter 12)

2005-08-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/10/05 22:53 CST: [snip 435 lines of stuff about building LFS] At this point, might it be best to move this thread over to a different list? :-) -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 08/09/05 11:40 CST: I'd like to propose a new section added to Chapter 12 - Programming. A section titled Other Programming Tools I have the section finished and will be committing it shortly. I'm too lazy to copy it up somewhere, so it will not be

Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'd like to propose a new section added to Chapter 12 - Programming. A section titled Other Programming Tools In this section would be nothing but links to the home pages for various other programming tools such as Strace and GDB. Granted, most programmers would already be aware of

RE: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
In this section would be nothing but links to the home pages for various other programming tools such as Strace and GDB. Granted, most programmers would already be aware of these tools, but for folks coming from other platforms, it would be an quick and easy source to the links for these

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: What say the group? It sounds alright, but if you're only providing links and not build instructions, do you really need an entirely new section? Wouldn't one page suffice? -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
David Fix wrote these words on 08/09/05 11:45 CST: Definitely. :) I was quite surprised to find that there was no GDB in BLFS whatsoever... :) I mean, yeah, I can easily download, build, and install it, but for people who may not know where to find it... Great idea. :) Which bring me to

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 08/09/05 11:46 CST: It sounds alright, but if you're only providing links and not build instructions, do you really need an entirely new section? Wouldn't one page suffice? In BLFSspeak, section = page. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: In BLFSspeak, section = page. Right. Thanks. ;) -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: And so forth and so on as I think of (and y'all provide) more ideas to include on this page. 'ddd' I believe is the preferred (read stable currently well-maintained) GUI frontend for gdb. Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/ Download URL:

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 08/09/05 13:32 CST: And so forth and so on as I think of (and y'all provide) more ideas to include on this page. These items will also be included: Numeric (python numerical extension) Boost FFTW GOB GTK bindings SWIG Valgrind More ideas are welcome! --

RE: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
Notice the 'cd gdb' before 'make install'. This is how my build script is laid out, and though my memory is fuzzy about this, I 'cd gdb' so that the readline, libiberty, etc. libraries aren't installed along with the gdb executable. Or am I wrong about this and it is nothing more than CMMI?

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:04:36PM -0400, David Fix wrote: First off, what's CMMI? :D Secondly, I didn't do the cd gdb before I did CMMI: Centre for Molecular Microbiology and Infection or maybe, Capability Maturity Model Integration but I'm pretty sure in this instance Randy means Configure

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 8/9/05, David Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice the 'cd gdb' before 'make install'. This is how my build script is laid out, and though my memory is fuzzy about this, I 'cd gdb' so that the readline, libiberty, etc. libraries aren't installed along with the gdb executable. Or am I

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Randy McMurchy wrote: I don't install it using configure-make-make install. I use the following: configure make make check-gdb cd gdb make install Notice the 'cd gdb' before 'make install'. This is how my build script is laid out, and though my memory is fuzzy

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 08/09/05 14:57 CST: On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Randy McMurchy wrote: Or am I wrong about this and it is nothing more than CMMI? *!$%# ! (translate that as nice catch, Randy for those with sensitive eyes). Actually, it's libbfd, libopcodes, and libiberty. I hadn't

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Archaic
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:40:28AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: What say the group? Groovy. BTW, just taking a quick peek at my buildscript for strace (I can't remember how long it was that I wrote it), strace is a cmmi package. -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
David Fix wrote these words on 08/09/05 16:45 CST: Actually, it's libbfd, libopcodes, and libiberty. I hadn't spotted that in my logs. Fortunately, only static and libtool versions. Zounds! So since I installed gdb without cd'ing into the gdb directory before doing a make install... What

RE: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
or closely review your install.log file created during the GDB installation (you do have one, right?). Um... Ah... Of course I do. If I hadn't deleted my gdb install directory. :P I guess I'll just reinstall binutils, or will it actually matter? Dave --

RE: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
Static versions of the 3 libraries mentioned above are installed by the Binutils package. I'm not sure what all else might have been overwritten by installing GDB the way you did. Install GDB in a private directory for a complete list of files that are installed, or closely review your

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Tushar Teredesai wrote these words on 08/09/05 18:25 CST: On 8/9/05, David Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though I don't have an install.log file... Is that standard? (Aw crap, now I'm showing that I don't know how to create this file! :P) See the last paragraph in

RE: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
See the last paragraph in http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/introduction/un packing.html. Tush's suggestion is good, however, if all you want to do is create a log file without thousands of lines of stuff scrolling across your screen just redirect the output using the

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
David Fix wrote these words on 08/09/05 18:45 CST: Awesome. :) Thank you both. :) I always like to see stuff as I compile/install/whatever it, just so I can see it's still doing something. ;) Thanks again, both of you! You're welcome! Note that you can redirect to a file in *append*

RE: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
Note that you can redirect to a file in *append* mode by using instead of . Example: Yeah, I'd known that stuff... :) I just thought that make install in most standard packages made this mysterious install.log file. *blush* Ah, sometimes my naivete (and spelling errors) shine through! ;)