OOo-2.0.155, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR - PROGRESS UPDATE

2006-02-11 Thread Alan Lord
Hi all, I am re-building OOo using a source snapshot. Version 2.0.155 This is getting much further than before and has the NSS/NSPR patches included. I have had to patch a couple of java files which were using enum and I have the 1.5_06 JDK so they needed to be changed and were not touched

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR (Long)

2006-02-09 Thread DJ Lucas
Alan Lord wrote: That seems to have done the trick! Thanks Jurg. Alan, sorry for not getting to this sooner in BLFS, life has once again stepped in the way. :-/ Unfortunately, I don't see it any time in the next couple of weeks unless another editor can grab it. If it wouldn't be too

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR (Long)

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Lord
Alan, sorry for not getting to this sooner in BLFS, life has once again stepped in the way. :-/ Unfortunately, I don't see it any time in the next couple of weeks unless another editor can grab it. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, when the build completes, would you mind posting a quick

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alan Lord wrote: Here's the error: /home/alord/OOA680_m1/vcl/unx/source/app/nassound.cxx:41:28: error: audio/audiolib.h: No such file or directory /home/alord/OOA680_m1/vcl/unx/source/app/nassound.cxx:42:28: error: audio/soundlib.h: No such file or directory

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Lord
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alan, I'm just curious where you have the {audio,sound}lib.h files located. In my system I have: $ locate audiolib.h /usr/X11R6/include/audio/audiolib.h $ locate soundlib.h /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h /usr/include/sys/asoundlib.h /usr/X11R6/include/audio/soundlib.h I

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Lord
Richard A Downing wrote: Alan Lord wrote: I know - posting to my own message but... Just d/l the OOo linux-intel-x86 package and it's all in bloody RPMS!!! If you convert the RPMS to tar.gz with rpm2targz then the tar.gz's will unpack to /opt/openoffice.org2.0.

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Lord
-- Bruce nas can't be simply made against xorg 7.0 as it complains about SharedLibX not being defined. According to the docs with xorg-cf-files this particular define isn't mentioned at all so I'm not sure it can be set? Also, the build fails because xorg 7.0 doesn't include *rman* which

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR (Long)

2006-02-08 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Mit, 2006-02-08 at 20:58 +, Alan Lord wrote: In the Perl script set_soenv the offending line is: ToFile( MOZ_NSPR_CFLAGS, @MOZ_NSPR_CFLAGS@, e ); Am I being thick? Should I have only applied the nspr patch? On first glance it looks like you didn't regenerate the configure script

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-24 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:48:28 -0600 Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:17:24 -0600 Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not opposed to adding a section on scripting packages. Chapter 2 seems to be the appropriate place for that. This

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:17:24 -0600 Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not much, but it is a lot different from the rest of the book. There is also not much difference in just executing the commands in the proposed script. I don't know about you, but I script most of my packages.

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0 [done?]

2006-01-23 Thread Dan McGhee
Dan McGhee wrote: snipped everything Here are my notes from today. They may be useful. Or they may not be. To control the build order in the libraries I used two files that the 'for PKG...' loop could read. If someone decides to use them in the book, it might be too failsafe but it might

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Joe Ciccone
Randy McMurchy wrote: I clearly said that it wasn't so much for the educational standpoint that I'm against scripting, it is because that is just not that way we've always done it, and I don't see this package as a reason to change. This is just my $0.02. I think blfs should provide the

Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Dan McGhee
Stopped researching and started playing today. Used the directions in the draft book @~/dj/blfs-xorg/x/xorg7.html. NOTE: I already have the packages so I didn't test any of this for downloading and verifying. Additionally, I worked only on the prototypes thinking that if I could install

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Dan McGhee
. This system is # detailed at # http://linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/more_control_and_pkg_man.txt # It was modified by Dan McGhee 20060122 for using in scripting the # Xorg-7.0 build in BLFS. configure_commands() { : ./configure --prefix=/tmp/test } make_commands() { : make

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
to go about this, as I've not messed with any of Xorg-7.0 yet, but I'd sure like to continue to contrive ways to do the installation without a script. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 11:23

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Chris Staub
installation start to finish. It's not so much the education thing, more is that I think by scripting it sets a bad precedent. I don't yet have any clues how to go about this, as I've not messed with any of Xorg-7.0 yet, but I'd sure like to continue to contrive ways to do the installation without

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Dan McGhee
scripting the whole installation. I'm not suggesting that we, actually I mean you, the editors, provide this script as written. If, as Bruce mentioned in another thread, the directions for Xorg-7.0 contain a number of sections detailing how to build each subset of packages, e.g; prototype headers

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan McGhee wrote these words on 01/22/06 12:15 CST: Although I will use a script, there is no need to script this. However, for each section I think that a for-do-done loop will save a lot of keyboards from freezing as a result of dried blood. :-) A do loop is much different than a

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
It seems a bit petty to worry about setting a bad precedent... I'm not sure I understand your point other than to call my opinion petty. I hate it when we are separated by a common language... Petty \Petty\ (p[e^]tt[y^]), a. [Compar. Pettier (p[e^]tt[i^]*[~e]r); superl. Pettiest.] [OE.

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: Chris Staub wrote these words on 01/22/06 11:36 CST: It seems a bit petty to worry about setting a bad precedent...just *having* a package that needs 200+ individual package installations is setting a precedent by itself... I'm not sure I understand your point other

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Dan McGhee
that worked for me. If you like it use it. If not, don't. And my feelings won't be hurt if none of my ideas are accepted. At first glance, building Xorg-7.0 looks like it's too hard. In concept, I beleieve it's easier then openoffice. I one breaks down the installation to pieces, it's

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 01/22/06 12:52 CST: The wget switch (-B) used is also not well known...why not explain here and give people a new way to use an existing tool? What a coincidence you mention this. I'm having to put a note on the Mozilla page to download a new makemake file, and

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan McGhee wrote these words on 01/22/06 12:58 CST: 1. Install Xorg-6.9 As it stands right now, I believe that this is the version that will be going in the book as the first pass on the upgrade. And, to the best of my knowledge, this will be the last version of the 6.x series that will have

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: So, I'm not real sure we need to consider this, unless we move straight to 7.0 and never put 6.9 in the book. My strategy right now is to have three version of X in the book until things get sorted out a bit more: XFree86 Xorg-6.9 Xorg-7.0 As some point in the future

Splitting Xorg-7.0 data builds

2006-01-22 Thread Dan McGhee
@DJ Lucas Just out of curiosity, why did you split building the data packages? Bitmaps first, server then rest of the data packages? Did you find something? Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the

Re: Splitting Xorg-7.0 data builds

2006-01-22 Thread DJ Lucas
Dan McGhee wrote: @DJ Lucas Just out of curiosity, why did you split building the data packages? Bitmaps first, server then rest of the data packages? Did you find something? Dan Yes...I can't look right now, but one of the apps required xbitmaps before buildingI don't remember the

Re: Splitting Xorg-7.0 data builds

2006-01-22 Thread Dan McGhee
DJ Lucas wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: @DJ Lucas Just out of curiosity, why did you split building the data packages? Bitmaps first, server then rest of the data packages? Did you find something? Dan Yes...I can't look right now, but one of the apps required xbitmaps before

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: With all due respect for your research and work so far, and hoping you *continue* to keep providing input on this topic, I would just like to mention that I don't think a script is the right way to go here. If we're going to provide a script, it may as well do the entire

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 01/22/06 22:15 CST: Randy, please explain why you think that providing our own script for making all of Xorg-7.0.0 is worse from the educational standpoint than relying upon the Xorg-6.9.0 Makefile system in order to build the identical C files.

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: I'm afraid I don't understand the question. Compare the following: Xorg 6.9.0: create host.def make World make install install.man The second command compiles, among other things, the lnxagp.c file present in unpacked source. Compilation of all Xorg components is

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 01/22/06 22:48 CST: So we are comparing automated build of Xorg components vs automated build of Xorg components. What's the differende, from the educational standpoint? Apparently, Alexander, you did not read my earlier comments, and instead just

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: I'm afraid I don't understand the question. Compare the following: Xorg 6.9.0: create host.def make World make install install.man The second command compiles, among other things, the lnxagp.c file present in unpacked source.

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: I'm just not sure we should be providing ways to create log files and other such stuff that each person should figure out on there own how they want to do it. I see your point. I actually used the logging because it was in the old monolithic build method. IIRC, this

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: You're comparing a maintainer's installation script/method with something that we (BLFS developers) come up with. Alexander, this is night and day. Apples and oranges. Thanks, you answered my question. -- Alexander E. Patrakov --

Xorg 7.0

2006-01-21 Thread Dan McGhee
through the Xorg-7.0 threads and side-tracked myself on the BLFS Expansion thread. I think that there is a big link between the two discussions and would like to offer my $0.02. (These are 1964 pennies and adjusted for inflation now are $1,000,000.02. Har! Har!). This could be long so please

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-21 Thread Dan McGhee
with the scripts for the major sections. I think that's what DJ has started to do. If I remember correctly there are only five major sections, but the possible 200 or so packages make the Xorg-7.0 modular build look daunting. If the 6.9 build is called a monolith, then 7.0 is behemouth

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-10 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:08:48 -0600 Tushar Teredesai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/9/06, Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tushar Teredesai wrote: Agreed, it should either be /usr (my preference) or /usr/X11R7 (the appropriate version). My preference is /usr/X11R7. Though that

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-10 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:22:22 -0600 Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJ Lucas wrote these words on 01/09/06 18:09 CST: I'll put up a more recent set if anyone would like to look at them that accounts for the issues that have been found recently. At this point, I can't help but

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew Benton
DJ Lucas wrote: Oh as far as ed as a required dependency, grep through your configure logs if you keep them separate. Unfortunately I'm not that sophisticated. I keep the logs from each application separate, but I log CMMI all in one file. Consequently grepping for `ed' gets me lots of hits

Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Alan Lord
Hi All, I read the earlier thread re: xorg 7.0 and discussion seems to have stopped around the end of December. I have viewed this page http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~dj/blfs-xorg7/x/xorg7.html to get an idea of what's involved but I wanted to check if any further work has been done

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Alan Lord wrote: Hi All, I read the earlier thread re: xorg 7.0 and discussion seems to have stopped around the end of December. I have viewed this page http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~dj/blfs-xorg7/x/xorg7.html to get an idea of what's involved but I wanted to check if any further work

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread zkom Xatz--L.
On 1/9/06, Alan Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, There also seems to be no mention of influencing the build with the host.def file as was done previously! Is this correct? Are we now required to apply the right configure switches to the right packages individually? Of which there seem

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Alan Lord
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: This way: http://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/packages/Xorg-modular/?root=livecd Note: this has many differences from other recommendations on this list. Or even build the whole CD yourself. As root: ... No, but (as well as X11R6.9.0) it hits

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Jim Gifford
Looks like X has lost all the learning value there was from the old version. This just looks like a way to automate the build, but doesn't really go into detail like Gnome or KDE which are also modular systems.I like the who, what, when, why, and where approach. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jim Gifford wrote: Looks like X has lost all the learning value there was from the old version. This just looks like a way to automate the build, but doesn't really go into detail like Gnome or KDE which are also modular systems.I like the who, what, when, why, and where approach. I agree.

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Jim Gifford
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I don't think the scripted LiveCD approach is being considered for the BLFS book, Jim. I think Alex was just responding to Alan's specific request for a scripted build. I just saw the page in DJ's directory, that's what through me off. Here is the link

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jim Gifford wrote these words on 01/09/06 10:52 CST: I just saw the page in DJ's directory, that's what through me off. I do not care for the instructions either. *Way* too automated. We may as well just make a tarball of all the packages, host it and a script that does everything. That way,

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Jim Gifford wrote these words on 01/09/06 10:52 CST: I just saw the page in DJ's directory, that's what through me off. I do not care for the instructions either. *Way* too automated. We may as well just make a tarball of all the packages, host it and a script

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Benton wrote these words on 01/09/06 14:54 CST: That sounds like a plan. I can't see any functional difference between 6.8.2 and 7.0. I believe Bruce was referring to Xorg-6.9.0 as the non-modular version. There may not be much difference in this and 6.8.2, but the 6.9.0 code is touted

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: I agree with everything Andy says, except installing into /usr. The default should be the expected method and location. Installing into /usr should be the reader's option to change from the default. If he wants to stray from the default, great, Your Distro, Your Rules.

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Benton wrote these words on 01/09/06 15:57 CST: What is the BLFS position on this? All of the BLFS instructions install programs in /usr with optional instructions to install into /opt for some specific packages. Whatever, Andy. You can argue all you want, and for all I care you

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 1/9/06, Andrew Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is X installed into /usr/X11R6? It only makes sense to install packages into their own folder to make it easy to remove them, but X is such a fundamental application, doesn't it make more sense to install it into

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Joe Ciccone
Bruce Dubbs wrote: My preference is /usr/X11R7. I havn't had a chance to lookk at it much yet, but I got a message from the xorg-modular list about building. I havn't looked at that link, I also use /usr/X11R7, the only problem I found with it is compatibility with programs that are

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Joe Ciccone wrote these words on 01/09/06 17:35 CST: I havn't looked at that link, I also use /usr/X11R7, the only problem I found with it is compatibility with programs that are hardwired to /usr/X11R6, Mesa is one of them. ln -s X11R7 /usr/X11R6 -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Thomas Pegg
Bruce Dubbs wrote: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/ModularDevelopersGuide Have others here looked at that? Many times, it's not much than general guidelines for building the modular tree (either from CVS, the released tarballs and jhbuild). Just as a side note, you may want to look at this link

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/09/06 18:49 CST: In other words, the new system provides average LFSers and others like them with a lot of flexibility. Perhaps there is more flexibility. However, there won't be time to exercise this flexibility because you're going to have to spend all

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/9/06, Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tushar Teredesai wrote: Agreed, it should either be /usr (my preference) or /usr/X11R7 (the appropriate version). My preference is /usr/X11R7. Though that will break a lot of packages that hard code the paths to X (I think most of them

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/9/06, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, I can't help but think that 6.9.0 is the only way to go. Unless there is some good way to keep the building of Xorg in the spirit of BLFS (not completely automated), I can't see any value going to the 7.0, if 6.9.0 affords the

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: Perhaps there is more flexibility. However, there won't be time to exercise this flexibility because you're going to have to spend all your free time just seeing which one of the 200-some-odd packages have been updated. By the time you get through checking all of them, it

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: DJ Lucas wrote these words on 01/09/06 18:09 CST: I'll put up a more recent set if anyone would like to look at them that accounts for the issues that have been found recently. At this point, I can't help but think that 6.9.0 is the only way to go. Unless there is

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: To all those building X11R7: Take a look at http://cvs.freedesktop.org/*checkout*/xorg/util/modular/build-from-tarballs.sh ...but be sceptical enough. The script is buggy for the following reasons: 3) It doesn't correct broken autofoo in

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
DJ Lucas wrote: Alexander, are those hard-coded or variable substitutions? I find references in libXt's configure script to /usr/etc, but not /usr/log in xserver. Sorry, I meant /usr/var/log. They are variable substitutions, and can be properly dealt with by passing --sysconfdir and

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Alan Lord
Randy McMurchy wrote: DJ Lucas wrote these words on 01/09/06 18:09 CST: I'll put up a more recent set if anyone would like to look at them that accounts for the issues that have been found recently. At this point, I can't help but think that 6.9.0 is the only way to go. Unless there is some