Re: the first three days at LFS [was : A question about house keeping]

2005-09-20 Thread Declan Moriarty
Recently, Somebody Somewhere wrote these words > On Monday 19 September 2005 20:06, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 02:30:45PM -0600, Peter B. Steiger wrote: > > > Everybody loves topping "I did something even stupider" stories. > > > > Well, if we're going to play *that* game - I o

Re: the first three days at LFS [was : A question about house keeping]

2005-09-19 Thread John Gay
On Monday 19 September 2005 20:06, Jeremy Henty wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 02:30:45PM -0600, Peter B. Steiger wrote: > > Everybody loves topping "I did something even stupider" stories. > > Well, if we're going to play *that* game - I once accidentally stapled > my thumbs together. Beat that

Re: the first three days at LFS [was : A question about house keeping]

2005-09-16 Thread Peter B. Steiger
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 14:08 -0600, Archaic wrote: > Yep, the painful screwups stick in your mind for a very long time and > teach you a lot! Plus they make great stories. "You ran rm -rf / on your PRODUCTION system???" Everybody loves topping "I did something even stupider" stories. -- Peter B

Re: the first three days at LFS [was : A question about house keeping]

2005-09-16 Thread Archaic
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:09:16AM +0200, Rainer Peter Feller wrote: > > Being too carefull might prevent you to do something stupid, but > sometimes it is faster to scew up your system and restart from > scratch :-) Haha! So true! > If you never screwed up your system while trying to improve it

the first three days at LFS [was : A question about house keeping]

2005-09-16 Thread Rainer Peter Feller
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:36 -0600, Archaic wrote: > That was a rhetorical question used as a continuation in explaining the > search process. IOW, I am trying to teach him *how* to search which is > the best thing a new person can be taught. That is right, but you could have been nicer. On the othe

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 06:43:25PM +0200, Rainer Peter Feller wrote: > > > Still not fully convinced -g and -geometry are the same? > I am not the one to be convinced, but may be other are to be less > iritated ... That was a rhetorical question used as a continuation in explaining the search pr

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-15 Thread Richard A Downing
Archaic wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:50:46PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: > >>On the line "xterm -g 80x40+0+0 &", what is "-g" for? TIA > > > This question troubles me. In your massive bombardment of the lfs and > blfs support lists for several weeks, has no one mentioned the use of > "man"

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-15 Thread Rainer Peter Feller
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 09:31 -0600, Archaic wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:03:24PM +0200, Rainer Peter Feller wrote: > > > > > On the line "xterm -g 80x40+0+0 &", what is "-g" for? TIA > > same as "xterm -geometry 80x40+0+0 &" > > and yes it is not documented ... well not directly, and when y

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:03:24PM +0200, Rainer Peter Feller wrote: > > > On the line "xterm -g 80x40+0+0 &", what is "-g" for? TIA > same as "xterm -geometry 80x40+0+0 &" > and yes it is not documented ... Sure it is. It may not be jumping out at you, but it isn't something that one cannot fin

RE: A question about house keeping

2005-09-15 Thread David Fix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:50:46PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: >> >> On the line "xterm -g 80x40+0+0 &", what is "-g" for? TIA > > This question troubles me. In your massive bombardment of the lfs and > blfs support lists for several weeks, has no one mentioned the use o

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-15 Thread Brandin Creech
--- Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The file .xinitrc is simply a list of shell commands that X will run > > on startup. > > > Is there a way to start X-window without popup Xterm. It has to be > evoked later when necessary? Sure. Just remove the "xterm &" line from your .xinitrc

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-14 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Brandin, Tks for your detail explanation. > The file .xinitrc is simply a list of shell commands that X will run > on startup. Is there a way to start X-window without popup Xterm. It has to be evoked later when necessary? TIA BR SL -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-s

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-14 Thread Brandin Creech
--- Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want Firefox > > run when X starts up, add firefox into .xinitrc > > xterm -g 80x40+0+0 & > xclock -g 100x100-0+0 & > firefox > twm > - END - > > (without &) > > On running "startx" after login as "root", Xterm won't start. That is > wha

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Stephen Liu wrote: Besides editing /root/.xinitrc only affected "root" not other users. I have to edit /home/user/.xinitrc for each user. Any suggestion? TIA I'm puzzled - why would you not want to have each user edit their own .xinitrc for the programs they wish to

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-14 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Kevin, Tks for your advice. > If you want Firefox > run when X starts up, add firefox into .xinitrc performed following tests; edited /root/.xinitrc as 1) xterm -g 80x40+0+0 & xclock -g 100x100-0+0 & firefox & twm - END - On running "startx" after login as "root", Xterm started as well

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-14 Thread Brandin Creech
--- Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As you mentioned, another way would be to launch the application > > without an > > xterm. How exactly are you launching the application? An xterm is not > > required to run X programs such as firefox. > > I haven't figured out how to do it. Firefox

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-14 Thread Kevin Jordan
On 9/14/05, Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Brandin, > > As you mentioned, another way would be to launch the application > > without an > > xterm. How exactly are you launching the application? An xterm is not > > required to run X programs such as firefox. > > I haven't figured out h

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-14 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Brandin, > Try this instead: > > chaotic ~$ firefox & > [1] 16800 > chaotic ~$ disown > chaotic ~$ exit Your advice worked here. Tks. > As you mentioned, another way would be to launch the application > without an > xterm. How exactly are you launching the application? An xterm is not > re

Re: A question about house keeping

2005-09-13 Thread Brandin Creech
--- Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TWM - window manager > I can't close the Xterm window otherwise the corresponding > application will be closed simultaneously. This is not specific to a window manager. But if I start an xterm and then load an application such as firefox, you're righ

A question about house keeping

2005-09-13 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi folks, TWM - window manager Whenever starting a application on Xterm, there are 2 windows displayed on the screen, the application's window and the Xterm window. If starting 2 applications there are 4 windows displayed on the screen and so on. I can't close the Xterm window otherwise the cor