Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-26 Thread Dale Leavens
- From: Lee A. Stone To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. Lets just say someone was to build a home on a slab they call a floating slab. is there a pipe that wqill last thru the changees

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Dan Rossi
Blaine, You don't hear water moving through the pipes in a hot water system. I already have hot water heat, but it is via big cast iron radiators. I would prefer heating through the floor rather than big clunky, ugly, radiators. It is a more comfortable heat, and they say you can actually

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Hodges
: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. under tile. Well, starting from the bottom, I have the plywood subfloor, the heating mats, Kerdi membrane, and tile. I think the mats I got, if you put it under wood, you need to put a layer of thinset over the mats first, then glue the wood down, or use

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Michael baldwin
it to a Home Depot, they sell it there. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:44 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. You don't have

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Lee A. Stone
Dan, was it hot water heat in the floors in the original Levit town homes on Long Island most are what are called a Cape cod styled home. . we have the same here in tis neighborhood but non have heat in the floors. Lee On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 08:01:42AM -0500, Dan Rossi wrote:

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Lee A. Stone
also for those who live out inthe woods a littleyou might have a hot water heat system inside the home in the floors orradiators and as well down the drive way if one was using a outdoor wood furnace. We have one such cousin who builds and sells log homes. He has enough

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Dan Rossi
Lee, Yes, many of those homes did get radiant floors. However, it was a poor attempt. They used the wrong materials, and most of those homes developed leaks because of the cement eating up the Copper pipes. To fix the leaks you had to jack hammer up the floor, fix the leak, then pour a

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Michael baldwin
, February 24, 2010 10:16 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. Well, it takes half a day to thaw a 20 pound turkey in my house at 72 degrees F. My patio weighs about 11 tons and is sitting on frost that penetrates about 4 feet and just now

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Dale Leavens
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. also for those who live out inthe woods a little you might have a hot water heat system inside the home in the floors or radiators and as well down the drive way if one was using

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Dan Rossi
Very nice set of calculations, but you missed one issue. You only accounted for heating the top 1.5 inches of concrete to 32F. It won't work that way. If the surface of the concrete is 0F, and the ground is 0F, when the heating elements kick on, they will dump just as much heat into the top

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Dale Leavens
in the south no doubt but they don't work here. If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie - Original Message - From: Michael baldwin To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. The ground does

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Lee A. Stone
Lets just say someone was to build a home on a slab they call a floating slab. is there a pipe that wqill last thru the changees or shifting ??Lee On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 01:31:21PM -0500, Dan Rossi wrote: Lee, Yes, many of those homes did get radiant floors. However, it was a poor

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-25 Thread Lee A. Stone
of it in an environmentally friendly way either. If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating

[BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Dan Rossi
I've been doing a lot of research into heated floors. There are two main kinds of radiant floors, electric or hydronic (water). You can bury pipes in the cement floor, or place them in the joist bays beneath a wood floor, then use hot water flowing through the pipes to heat the floor. You

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Michael baldwin
not be all that bad. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:03 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. I've been doing a lot

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Dan Rossi
Mike, Don't you live in Florida? Or do Ihave the wrong Mike? You are correct though. 50 watts per square foot isn't too bad. Say you do a three foot wide, by 10 foot long section, that would be about 1.5KW for the 240 volt matts. So, 1.5KWH around here would cost about 30 cents an hour to

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Michael baldwin
: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. Mike, Don't you live in Florida? Or do Ihave the wrong Mike? You are correct though. 50 watts per square foot isn't too bad. Say you do a three foot wide, by 10 foot long section, that would be about 1.5KW for the 240 volt matts. So, 1.5KWH around

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Dan Rossi
OK Mike, Then it sounds like the electric mats aren't as bad as I thought. Are you just using them as a comfort heat source and not a primary heat source? Are they thermostatically controlled or do you turn them on and off when you want the heat? I've been looking at hydronic for a primary

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Dave Andrus
-Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael baldwin Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:51 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. Nope, this Mike lives in Central Nebraska

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Michael baldwin
Of Dan Rossi Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:57 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. OK Mike, Then it sounds like the electric mats aren't as bad as I thought. Are you just using them as a comfort heat source and not a primary heat source

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Michael baldwin
_ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Andrus Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:58 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. Hi Michael, Your radient flooring that warms the floor. Did you

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Dale Leavens
, February 24, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. I installed the SunTouch brand in our last house, and it was great on the feet. It didn't raise our electric bill by any noticeable difference. I installed 45 square feet on a 120 volt system. After the tiles were

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Dale Leavens
: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. OK Mike, Then it sounds like the electric mats aren't as bad as I thought. Are you just using them as a comfort heat source and not a primary heat source? Are they thermostatically controlled or do you turn them on and off when you want the heat

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Michael baldwin
. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:27 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. I don't believe that for a moment

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Dale Leavens
That is about 3 bucks a night or 90 bucks a month. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. Mike, Don't you live in Florida? Or do Ihave

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Blaine Deutscher
Blaine - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:02 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. I've been doing a lot of research into heated floors. There are two main kinds of radiant floors, electric or hydronic

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Michael baldwin
24, 2010 9:35 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. under floor electric heat isn't bad considering the general cost of electric heat. Usually it is in a small room, a bathroom which might be a hundred or so square feet 25% or more of which

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Dale Leavens
was laid on insulation. If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie - Original Message - From: Michael baldwin To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:44 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. Then go to h http

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Michael baldwin
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:38 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. That is about 3 bucks a night or 90 bucks a month. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Max Robinson
...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Michael baldwin mbaldwin...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:17 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. I installed the SunTouch brand in our last house, and it was great on the feet

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating.

2010-02-24 Thread Max Robinson
:26 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Radiant floor heating. I don't believe that for a moment. If it is below freezing it is going to take a lot of heat just to raise the temperature of the surface above freezing. A cement walkway has a lot of mass to bring up to temperature