Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-12 Thread Dale Leavens
Certainly you could and probably should. They will install baffles to allow the air to continue to flow and to constrain the foam just as you would when installing bats. - Original Message - From: Spiro To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:05

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-12 Thread chiliblindman
Spiro, last weekend my son-in-law and I blew in 38 bags of insulation in his attic area. 12 inches of the lose blow in insulation added an R rating of 54 I think. We got the blower and insulation from lowes and rented their truck to transport it all. Total time was around 7 hours and that inc

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-12 Thread Shane Hecker
So long as you don't block the vents you will be fine. Do you have recessed lighting? If so, be careful with those fixtures (especially if they are older) as they can get hot. Do you plan to spray foam on the floor or under the roof deck? Either one will work, but if you spray under the roof you

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-12 Thread Dale Leavens
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. So long as you don't block the vents you will be fine. Do you have recessed lighting? If so, be careful with those fixtures (especially if they are older) as they can get h

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-12 Thread Bob Kennedy
l Message - From: chiliblindman To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. Spiro, last weekend my son-in-law and I blew in 38 bags of insulation in his attic area. 12 inches of the lose

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-13 Thread Shane Hecker
blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. He wouldn't spray the foam under the roof deck, that would negate the point of ventilating the space and further, he would lose the air

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Michael baldwin
om: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. He wouldn't spray the foam under the roof deck, that would negate the point

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Spiro
are there any prerecs for the area? Do you feed the material to the blower, or do you have to go up and direct it? what I have up there looks like someone tore open a old blanket and just laid it in an inch thick. but I know there are supposed to be 2, 2 brick holes in front and back. I'm frankly

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Spiro
is there a benefit to floor or under roof? I didn't quite get the "storage" statement. On Sat, 12 Sep 2009, Shane Hecker wrote: > So long as you don't block the vents you will be fine. Do you have recessed > lighting? If so, be careful with those fixtures (especially if they are > older) as

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Spiro
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. > > >So long as you don't block the vents you will be fine. Do you have > recessed lighting? If so, be careful with those fixtures (especially if they > are older) as they can get hot. Do you plan to s

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Dale Leavens
gy saving. - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. I could see that if the vents were blocked. But if they aren't,

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Spiro
lindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Shane Hecker > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:18 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. > > > > > I could see t

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread chiliblindman
Spiro, all you need is one person to feed the bags if insulation into the blower at an even rate. One person to handle the blower end of the hose and a middle person to pass instructions back and forth between the parties. Each needs a mask to keep the dust and insulation material out of the l

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Michael baldwin
2009 7:21 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. so what's the cost of Cellulose compared to fiberglass? On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Michael baldwin wrote: > Spraying the roof deck is not recommended if you live in

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Michael baldwin
--From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:14 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. ---snip--- If you insulate under the

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Dale Leavens
additional about spray insilation question. --From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:14 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilatio

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-14 Thread Michael baldwin
, September 14, 2009 5:14 PM To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. ---snip--- If you insulate under the roof deck you will retain all of the radiant heat from the sun right there. The

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread Dale Leavens
e with the door closed. - Original Message - From: Michael baldwin To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. Dale, You might want to read thi

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread chiliblindman
Spiro, the cost is almost the same. At some stores fiberglass is cheaper and at others it is more. I have seen price differences of over 25 percent on items at the same stores, but different locations with in 20 miles of each other. Check locally what is offered and how much it will cost per

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread Scott Howell
Can you mix the two different types of insulation? I'm just wondering if I add to what is in my attic, what would make the most sense. tnx On Sep 15, 2009, at 8:30 AM, chiliblindman wrote: > Spiro, the cost is almost the same. At some stores fiberglass is > cheaper and at others it is more. I

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread Michael baldwin
little with the door closed. - Original Message - From: Michael baldwin To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. Dale, You might wan

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread Spiro
lto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Dale Leavens > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:26 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. > > > > > First, the colour of the shingles certainly does ma

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread Dale Leavens
Me either. - Original Message - From: Spiro To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:08 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. for some reason this link didn't work for me. On Mon, 14 Sep

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread Michael baldwin
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. for some reason this link didn't work for me. On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Michael baldwin wrote: > Dale, > You might want to read this report > http://www.building <http://www.buildingscience.com/

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread Michael baldwin
] additional about spray insilation question. Me either. - Original Message - From: Spiro To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:08 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. fo

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-15 Thread chiliblindman
Scott, it would be easy to add any kind over fiberglass. If the blown in stuff was old, you could add either. Since I have done both, I think the blown in is easier. I have also worked in areas that had both in already. Fiberglass you just pull back to work and a hand brush is needed for the

RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-16 Thread Dan Rossi
Mike, Thanks for this article. It was a very interesting read. I am not sure that I fully absorbed all the information, but I did get a few key points. Firstly, the difference in life expectancy of a composite roof with a sealed or vented attic is fairly small. Apparently, venting may not p

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-16 Thread Tom Fowle
I remember talking to a so-called environmental engineer years ago about insulation. One thing he said which made sense to me was that the more of the mass of the building you can get inside the insulation, the better off you are because the mass inside the insulation tends to help the temperatur

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-16 Thread Dale Leavens
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. Mike, Thanks for this article. It was a very interesting read. I am not sure that I fully absorbed all the information, but I did get a few key points

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-17 Thread Spiro
at what point does the r value exceed it's cost effectiveness, as far as your experience with this? On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, chiliblindman wrote: > Spiro, the cost is almost the same. At some stores fiberglass is cheaper and > at others it is more. I have seen price differences of over 25 per

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-17 Thread chiliblindman
There is a point of cost not being very good. I can't see spending a hundred bucks to save a dime. If I can save an equal amount in less than seven years, I consider that a very reasonable investment. Each area has a R-value rating as to what it should be according to normal temp

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-17 Thread Lee A. Stone
good information bob about using the fans during the winter. thanks.Lee On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:23:36AM -0400, chiliblindman wrote: > There is a point of cost not being very good. I can't see spending a > hundred bucks to save a dime. If I can save an equal amount in less than > s

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-09-17 Thread Dale Leavens
From: Spiro To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. at what point does the r value exceed it's cost effectiveness, as far as your experience with this? On Tue, 1

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-10-20 Thread Spiro
ctory then you must add insulation to keep heat transference > from conduction and radiation under control. The direct movement of warm and > cold air though is easily the most important factor in comfort and energy > saving. > > > > - Original Message - > Fro

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-10-20 Thread Dale Leavens
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. considering this evaporation Dale is it then unwise to tack down something like 3/8 ply down over the insulation between the two by's? thanks I've obviously no

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-10-21 Thread Spiro
sulation and usually > more is better though there is a diminishing return curve. > > > - Original Message - > From: Spiro > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation ques

Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-10-21 Thread Dale Leavens
om Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question. thanks for your reply. I am thinking about a quarter of the space at most; say 5 or 6 feet to each side of the access, and the same or a little more along the beams