Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-15 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Thanks Kenneth! Given the feedback from Whereby (thanks Andreas!) and the aggregated origin trial feedback that Ajay shared I think we should ship this, just a few more notes/questions. Please do what you think makes sense with the naming. I think there's a case for renaming, but it's up to you

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-15 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
Thanks Philip! I commented on the issue you created, but I don't feel strongly about any of the options as it is easy to convert from one to the other. We looked at it before and decided to not change it then, but we are open to good arguments so please chime in. On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 11:51 PM

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Thank you for sharing aggregated feedback, Ajay. I couldn't find any discussion about sampleRate vs an interval, so I've filed https://github.com/w3c/compute-pressure/issues/253 with all the precedent for and against that I could find. Kenneth, Arnaud, can you look into this and decide whether

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-14 Thread 'Andreas Bovens' via blink-dev
On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 6:53:40 PM UTC Reilly Grant wrote: In https://github.com/w3c/compute-pressure/issues/14 an engineer from Zoom expressed interest in this feature. Do you know if Zoom or any of the other developers mentioned in the TAG review

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-07 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
This has not been implemented, no. I believe this was discussed with the Google UX team. Maybe Ajay can follow up with them? On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:18 AM Vladimir Levin wrote: > > Asking as a user, the spec draft recommends that user agents... > >> ... show some form of user-visible

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread 'Vladimir Levin' via blink-dev
Asking as a user, the spec draft recommends that user agents... ... show some form of user-visible notification that informs the user when > a pressure observer is active, as well as provides the user with the means > to block the

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Reilly Grant
In https://github.com/w3c/compute-pressure/issues/14 an engineer from Zoom expressed interest in this feature. Do you know if Zoom or any of the other developers mentioned in the TAG review have deployed an experiment

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread 'Ajay Rahatekar' via blink-dev
Please see below for aggregated and manually vetted OT feedback that was shared as per Google's policy: - 100% of the respondents are extremely likely to continue using the API. - 43% of the respondents found the API 'Extremely easy', 43% found it 'Neither easy nor difficult' and 14%

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 4:00 PM 'Ajay Rahatekar' via blink-dev < blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote: > As Kenneth mentioned, the aggregated/anonymized feedback (largely > positive) was shared with the Intel team in consultation with the Google > Privacy team. Internal copy is available as needed. >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread 'Ajay Rahatekar' via blink-dev
As Kenneth mentioned, the aggregated/anonymized feedback (largely positive) was shared with the Intel team in consultation with the Google Privacy team. Internal copy is available as needed. On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 5:57:47 AM UTC-8 kenneth.ch...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 7:14 PM Reilly Grant wrote: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:56 AM Mike Taylor wrote: > >> During this origin trial we realized that the full capacity of the API >> couldn’t be tested due to a lack of support for third-party tokens. An Origin >> Trial extension >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
We will update the TAG issue. Thanks for pointing that out. There is already an entry for WebKit: https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/255 and Jeffrey made them aware of the mitigations we put in place. Kenneth On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:11 PM Manuel Rego Casasnovas wrote: > >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:50 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote: > I see this sentence which mentions the alternative, but doesn't really > clarify why it isn't sufficient. If external pressure harms the app's ability > to do what it wants to do, wouldn't that be measurable? The ability to act

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:40 PM Kenneth Rohde Christiansen < kenneth.christian...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> The other issue raised is around the usefulness (or lack thereof) of apps >> changing behavior based on system load, rather than based on the time is >> takes them to achieve certain

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
> The other issue raised is around the usefulness (or lack thereof) of apps > changing behavior based on system load, rather than based on the time is > takes them to achieve certain tasks. Was that discussed somewhere? > That is mentioned in the README (linked to from the spec): Goals /

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Manuel Rego Casasnovas
The TAG asked to be updated after the experimental phase, but the issue hasn't been updated yet: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/795#issuecomment-1691188175 Also for WebKit position, we might want to fill a new issue in the new place:

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-06 Thread Arnaud Mandy
Reilly, We do not have direct access (non-googlers) to the OT feedback unfortunately. We are working with our google contact to publish a summary. On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 8:14:45 PM UTC+2 rei...@chromium.org wrote: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:56 AM Mike Taylor wrote: > >> >> On 3/5/24

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-05 Thread Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)
On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 7:14 PM Reilly Grant wrote: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:56 AM Mike Taylor wrote: > >> >> On 3/5/24 6:57 AM, Mandy, Arnaud wrote: >> >> Contact emails >> >> kenneth.r.christian...@intel.com, arnaud.ma...@intel.com, >> wei4.w...@intel.com, raphael.kubo.da.co...@intel.com >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-05 Thread Reilly Grant
On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:56 AM Mike Taylor wrote: > > On 3/5/24 6:57 AM, Mandy, Arnaud wrote: > > Contact emails > > kenneth.r.christian...@intel.com, arnaud.ma...@intel.com, > wei4.w...@intel.com, raphael.kubo.da.co...@intel.com > > Explainer > >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-05 Thread Mike Taylor
On 3/5/24 6:57 AM, Mandy, Arnaud wrote: Contact emails kenneth.r.christian...@intel.com, arnaud.ma...@intel.com, wei4.w...@intel.com, raphael.kubo.da.co...@intel.com Explainer https://github.com/w3c/compute-pressure/blob/main/README.md Specification

[blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

2024-03-05 Thread Mandy, Arnaud
Contact emails kenneth.r.christian...@intel.com, arnaud.ma...@intel.com, wei4.w...@intel.com, raphael.kubo.da.co...@intel.com Explainer