Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Etienne Champetier
Hi, 2016-01-20 18:42 GMT+01:00 moeller0 : > Hi Etienne, > > I could be out to lunch, but I always assumed for virtual interfaces the > txque does not matter as packets are immediate passed to the real interface. > This was not the case in the past (I remember losing quite some time on this some

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread moeller0
Hi Etienne, I could be out to lunch, but I always assumed for virtual interfaces the txque does not matter as packets are immediate passed to the real interface. Best Regards Sebastian > On Jan 20, 2016, at 18:09 , Etienne Champetier > wrote: > > > > 2016-01-20 17:54 GMT+01:00 Bran

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread moeller0
Hi Brandon, > On Jan 20, 2016, at 17:10 , Brandon Applegate wrote: > > I’m getting more confused as I go on :) > > So I’ve rebooted and the tc classes seem to have come back. Since this is > Ubuntu 12.04 - it doesn NOT have systemd. I mention this because I see there > is a systemd config i

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Simon Barber
Last I looked at this you can attach a qdisc to a virtual interface, but there is no backpressure, since the interface is virtual and the real interface it feeds will never 'stop' accepting packets (since you are really feeding into another qdisc). So you can do things like rate pacing, loggin

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Etienne Champetier
2016-01-20 17:54 GMT+01:00 Brandon Applegate : > > On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Etienne Champetier < > champetier.etie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Brandon, > > e quickly read the thread (maybe too quickly), > > from what i remember for virtual interface txqueuelen is 0 by default, so > nothing wo

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Brandon Applegate
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Etienne Champetier > wrote: > > Hi Brandon, > > e quickly read the thread (maybe too quickly), > from what i remember for virtual interface txqueuelen is 0 by default, so > nothing work as expected > can you check the txqueuelen with ip -a ? > (i've found no re

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Etienne Champetier
Hi Brandon, 2016-01-20 17:34 GMT+01:00 Brandon Applegate : > > > > On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Brandon Applegate > wrote: > > > > I’m getting more confused as I go on :) > > > > So I’ve rebooted and the tc classes seem to have come back. Since this > is Ubuntu 12.04 - it doesn NOT have system

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Brandon Applegate
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Brandon Applegate wrote: > > I’m getting more confused as I go on :) > > So I’ve rebooted and the tc classes seem to have come back. Since this is > Ubuntu 12.04 - it doesn NOT have systemd. I mention this because I see there > is a systemd config in the sqm

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 20/01/16 16:10, Brandon Applegate wrote: I’m getting more confused as I go on :) So I’ve rebooted and the tc classes seem to have come back. Since this is Ubuntu 12.04 - it doesn NOT have systemd. I mention this because I see there is a systemd config in the sqm-scripts package. I have n

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Brandon Applegate
I’m getting more confused as I go on :) So I’ve rebooted and the tc classes seem to have come back. Since this is Ubuntu 12.04 - it doesn NOT have systemd. I mention this because I see there is a systemd config in the sqm-scripts package. I have not added any hooks to run 'sqm start’ - nevert

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Brandon, First, thanks a lot. On January 20, 2016 4:30:25 PM GMT+01:00, Brandon Applegate wrote: >I’ll try to tackle what I can for now below inline. > >> On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:30 AM, moeller0 wrote: >> >> Hi Brandon, >> >> >>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 00:33 , Brandon Applegate >wrote: >>>

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Okay so at least the egress uplinks seems okay, maybe a bit too generous, at 5Mbps contracted speed, maybe 4500Kbps would be a more cautious starting point. But in essence this looks good, I fail to see the ingress ifb4eth0.666, so can offer any opinion on that. On January 20, 2016 4:15:35 PM G

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Brandon Applegate
I’ll try to tackle what I can for now below inline. > On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:30 AM, moeller0 wrote: > > Hi Brandon, > > >> On Jan 20, 2016, at 00:33 , Brandon Applegate wrote: >> >> Disclaimer: if this is the wrong list for such a question - let me know. >> This is specifically about the sq

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Brandon Applegate
Here’s the output to check the rates. root@ice:/etc/sqm# head -2 eth0.666.iface.conf UPLINK=5000 DOWNLINK=3 root@ice:/etc/sqm# tc class show dev eth0.666 class htb 1:11 parent 1:1 leaf 110: prio 1 rate 128000bit ceil 1666Kbit burst 1600b cburst 1599b class htb 1:1 root rate 5000Kbit ceil 500

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread moeller0
Hi Brandon, > On Jan 20, 2016, at 15:51 , Brandon Applegate wrote: > >> >> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Alan Jenkins >> wrote: >> >> >> No offense to your work on sqm-scripts. >> >> >> 1) It's just in case the problem is *outside* of sqm-scripts, it could be >> useful to try the minimum

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Brandon Applegate
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Alan Jenkins > wrote: > > > No offense to your work on sqm-scripts. > > > 1) It's just in case the problem is *outside* of sqm-scripts, it could be > useful to try the minimum commands necessary to demonstrate the problem. > Maybe it's unfair but I assumed r

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Brandon Applegate
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Rich Brown wrote: > > Hi Brandon, > > One more (very) simple test - what are your speeds *without* any SQM/shaping? > I didn't see it mentioned in your report, and let's be sure that you're > shaping the traffic to the actual achievable link speeds... > > I rece

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Brandon, One more (very) simple test - what are your speeds *without* any SQM/shaping? I didn't see it mentioned in your report, and let's be sure that you're shaping the traffic to the actual achievable link speeds... I recently helped a friend whose "15 mbps/1mbps" DSL just wouldn't get ab

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread moeller0
Hi Alan, > On Jan 20, 2016, at 13:06 , Alan Jenkins > wrote: > [...] > No offense to your work on sqm-scripts. None taken ;) I really just want to use the opportunity to a) get Brandon up and running and b) fix any short-comings on sqm-scripts on the way. > > > 1) It's just in case

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 20/01/16 11:43, moeller0 wrote: On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:12 , Alan Jenkins wrote: On 19/01/2016, Brandon Applegate wrote: Disclaimer: if this is the wrong list for such a question - let me know. This is specifically about the sqm-scripts package... Hello, I’ve been reading all I can on th

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread moeller0
Hi Alan, hi Brandon: > On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:15 , Alan Jenkins > wrote: > > On 20/01/2016, Alan Jenkins wrote: >> On 19/01/2016, Brandon Applegate wrote: >>> Disclaimer: if this is the wrong list for such a question - let me know. >>> This is specifically about the sqm-scripts package... >>>

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread moeller0
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:12 , Alan Jenkins > wrote: > > On 19/01/2016, Brandon Applegate wrote: >> Disclaimer: if this is the wrong list for such a question - let me know. >> This is specifically about the sqm-scripts package... >> >> Hello, >> >> I’ve been reading all I can on the bufferblo

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread moeller0
Hi Brandon, > On Jan 20, 2016, at 00:33 , Brandon Applegate wrote: > > Disclaimer: if this is the wrong list for such a question - let me know. > This is specifically about the sqm-scripts package... > > Hello, > > I’ve been reading all I can on the bufferbloat website and also trying to >

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 20/01/2016, Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 19/01/2016, Brandon Applegate wrote: >> Disclaimer: if this is the wrong list for such a question - let me know. >> This is specifically about the sqm-scripts package... >> >> Hello, >> >> I’ve been reading all I can on the bufferbloat website and also tryi

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-20 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 19/01/2016, Brandon Applegate wrote: > Disclaimer: if this is the wrong list for such a question - let me know. > This is specifically about the sqm-scripts package... > > Hello, > > I’ve been reading all I can on the bufferbloat website and also trying to > understand the evolution of the vari

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-19 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 20 Jan, 2016, at 02:14, Brandon Applegate wrote: > > It seems to have the same effect ether I’m operating on eth0 or eth0.666. > Here’s the requested output when I’m operating on eth0.666. Is that after running a bandwidth test? It looks like most of the traffic is on eth0. - Jonatha

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-19 Thread Brandon Applegate
> On Jan 19, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > I’m not sure whether a qdisc can be attached to a virtualised interface in > this way. Can you run ‘tc -s qdisc’ and show us the output? > It seems to have the same effect ether I’m operating on eth0 or eth0.666. Here’s the requeste

Re: [Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-19 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 20 Jan, 2016, at 01:33, Brandon Applegate wrote: > > My topology is ‘on a stick’. I have one gig interface to a managed switch, > on which are eth0.666 (outside/wan) and eth0.10 (inside). > > No matter what I do - my bandwidth is 10% of what it should be. I get > approx. 3/4mbit down +

[Bloat] Getting started with sqm-scripts - latency good, bandwidth decimated

2016-01-19 Thread Brandon Applegate
Disclaimer: if this is the wrong list for such a question - let me know. This is specifically about the sqm-scripts package... Hello, I’ve been reading all I can on the bufferbloat website and also trying to understand the evolution of the various scripts (debloat, sqm, etc). I managed to get