Tolkin, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*>I think I am in the same camp as Chris Nandor and John Tobey.
*>They, and I, have just given up on Perl 6.
*>
*>But there is a problem in staying with Perl 5.
*>Due to Perl 6 the Perl 5 community is deprived of the
*>resources of several key people, e.g.
> "JT" == John Tobey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JT> On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:49:21PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
>> At 10:14 AM -0500 3/14/03, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
>> >
>> >A6 says that, as in Perl 5, only anonymous subs are closures. I've
>> >always thought of the fact that
Since I appear to have contributed to the problem ... :-)
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 06:00:59PM -0500, Tolkin, Steve wrote:
> I think I am in the same camp as Chris Nandor and John Tobey.
> They, and I, have just given up on Perl 6.
I would say don't give up. Unless you need it within the next
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 04:31:06PM -0500, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 04:32:17PM -0500, John Tobey wrote:
> >
> > YES. That's what we want. That is how Scheme and Common Lisp work.
> > That would make for cleaner code.
>
> Well, Common Lisp and Scheme don't work quite the
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 04:17:08PM -0500, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
> > bar() -> undef
> > foo("a")
> > bar() -> "a"
> > foo("b")
> > bar() -> "b"
Um, the last one is -> "a".
Andrew
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 04:32:17PM -0500, John Tobey wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:49:21PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > At 10:14 AM -0500 3/14/03, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
> > >
> > >A6 says that, as in Perl 5, only anonymous subs are closures. I've
> > >always thought of the fact that Perl
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 04:35:07PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> >
> >YES. That's what we want. That is how Scheme and Common Lisp work.
> >That would make for cleaner code.
>
> Well, if that's what you want... :)
>
> I'm OK with that. Convince Larry and I'll make it happen.
Thanks but I'll
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:49:21PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> At 10:14 AM -0500 3/14/03, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
>
> >A6 says that, as in Perl 5, only anonymous subs are closures. I've
> >always thought of the fact that Perl 5 named subs are not closures
> >as a bug kept for compatibility.
>
>
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:49:21PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> At 10:14 AM -0500 3/14/03, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
> >
> >A6 says that, as in Perl 5, only anonymous subs are closures. I've
> >always thought of the fact that Perl 5 named subs are not closures
> >as a bug kept for compatibility.
>
>
At 10:14 AM -0500 3/14/03, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:30:06AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
Still... What exactly about A6 did you dislike? It's a bit big, but
there's nothing in it that seemed particularly controversial or
foolish to me, and I tend to get cranky with the new
Andrew Pimlott wrote:
> sub foo
> {
> my ($x, $y, $z) = @_;
> sub helper
> {
> ... $x $y $z ...
> }
> ...
> ... helper() ...
> ... helper() ...
> ...
> }
>
> In Perl 5 you can get around this by assigning
>
At 09:30 -0500 2003.03.14, Dan Sugalski wrote:
>At 9:13 AM -0500 3/14/03, Tolkin, Steve wrote:
>>I want "good Damian" to work with Larry el al. to reduce the
>>complexity of the language. Or (shudder) a subset of the language to
>>be defined.
>>
>>Please advise me as to how to proceed.
>
>Ruby
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:30:06AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> Still... What exactly about A6 did you dislike? It's a bit big, but
> there's nothing in it that seemed particularly controversial or
> foolish to me, and I tend to get cranky with the new features.
How 'bout this one. (I mean to
At 9:13 AM -0500 3/14/03, Tolkin, Steve wrote:
In Apocalyse 6 http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/03/07/apocalypse6.html
Larry Wall explains how subroutines are going to work in
Perl 6. I think this is the straw that broke the camel's back.
I think this is the worst case of "second system syndrome" I
hi
( 03.03.14 09:13 -0500 ) Tolkin, Steve:
> Please advise me as to how to proceed.
i think you can email either damian or larry [psuedo-] directly. or post
something on perlmonks.org.
or you can start your own fork of the perl code- that's one of the
benefits of open source.
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In Apocalyse 6 http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/03/07/apocalypse6.html
Larry Wall explains how subroutines are going to work in
Perl 6. I think this is the straw that broke the camel's back.
I think this is the worst case of "second system syndrome" I
have ever seen (See Jargon file e.g. at
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