suggestion.
FWIW, I can't do Wednesdays; other days are fine.
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don't understand why you
need the "eval" in:
eval('&Net::FTPSSL::IMP_CRYPT')
Shouldn't Net::FTPSSL::IMP_CRYPT always be defined when you need it, and
never referenced when you don't?
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I would be more interested in a distributed hackathon; my laptop is
no longer up to snuff.
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From: "Greg London"
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:14:20 -0500
> There's a simpler way to do this: Sandpaper.
I think the exercise was akin to lockpicking:
yes a crowbar will do the same job, but that
wasn't the point. Can it be done without physical
destruction?
Oh; I guess I
From: "Greg London"
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:18:12 -0400
I have no idea what the signaling looks like on that 4wire connector
between the platters and controller electronics, but it would seem to
me that the right bit of hardware hooked directly to those 4 wires
would be the bes
From: Ben Tilly
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:09:19 -0700
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Bob Rogers
wrote:
> I would hope (but don't know how to check) that Perl is smart enough to
> notice that the "map" in my original example is in a void context, and
&g
From: Gyepi SAM
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:54:06 -0400
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 10:24:45PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote:
>
> Not quite true, as you can "goto" a label outside of the block:
> [first example omitted]
Indeed, you are correct. However, when you br
also gives you an early exit when mapping over a tree recursively.
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after all . . . ;-}
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From: "Greg London"
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:12:05 -0600
Well, this is somewhat disappointing . . .
. . .
Then run it and you get something like this:
perl test.pl
linenum is '10'
linenum is '10'
If you change it to
our @array=(
mysub('a', __LINENUM__
From: Bill Ricker
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 22:28:52 -0500
Wondering why so few (2 and two maybes) RSVP tonight.
I attended a different meeting.
Did anyone not RSVP for tonight because 2nd Tuesday is MicroSoft
patch tuesday, and this was a big one?
Ew, yuck. Perish the thought.
From: Ben Tilly
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:04:58 -0700
For him to discuss it off list would be pointless because his emails
will bounce until he goes through the confirmation. At which point he
won't have spam to deal with.
Or I could decide to add him to my whitelist.
That sa
From: mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:36:46 -0700
WTF? Bob Rogers still uses TMDA?
You bet. After all these years, it's still extremely effective at
keeping out undesirables. ;-}
-
From: "Greg London"
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:43:23 -0500
. . .
Why would perl munge 1 into 256?
Greg
Because it's designed that way:
$CHILD_ERROR
$? The status returned by the last pipe close, backtick ("``")
command, successful call to wait()
From: Tom Metro
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 02:45:19 -0500
Bob Rogers wrote:
>0. I assume you are already using ulimit to trigger the error
> sooner, rather than later . . .
I haven't gotten to the point of trying to intentionally reproduce the
issue, but u
ble
OOM error, and inspect memory then.
You have my sympathies. HTH,
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x27;m sure it's the latter, from a not-very-bright phisherman. If it were
me, the last place I'd want to phish is a geek site, where I'm less
likely to find gullible victims, and more likely to get caught.
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From: "Greg London"
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:50:56 -0600
I'd be willing to chip in some money.
Greg
I could chip in, too. Damian is never dull!
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and that using @rules instead of four named variables was also more
efficient.
In time or space? Time may depend on how many times you access them.
But names are always more meaningful than hardwired subscript indices.
GD::Graph [maybe]
But it probably wouldn't amount to more than 45 minutes all told.
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Bazaar myself, so I don't have any data points to share.
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From: Matthew J Brooks
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:23:42 -0700
Bob Rogers wrote:
<<>>
> Camel book? We don't need no stinking camel book! Real Programmers
> learn languages by reading the man pages!
In lieu of a book, you are welcome to toss your l
ri
Camel book? We don't need no stinking camel book! Real Programmers
learn languages by reading the man pages!
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there is your answer. :)
uri
I have only been to the last two, but am not nearly so biased -- and I
would give you pretty much the same answer.
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From: Tom Metro
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:12:00 -0400
Uri Guttman wrote:
> ...much of the rest was fancy ops and OO stuff...
I remember the "fancy ops" but I don't remember much to do with OO,
aside from some syntax variations (arrow changes to dot). I've actually
seen ver
expect a
certain amount of razzing in return?
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out which modules, and where they came from.
HTH,
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-Tom
YAML, perhaps?
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From: Adam Flott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:01:44 -0500 (CDT)
Are there any open Perl positions for junior to mid level programmers?
I'm also interested in QA positions at Perl shops as well.
Thanks,
Adam
Just a few hours ago, SourceForge posted "Service Ope
From: Mike Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:48:27 -0400
Hi,
Would you say it would still be worthwhile to read Perl 6 and Parrot
Essentials in its published, paper form? I see that there's a lot of
other more up to date material listed here ... but I'd like
From: "Bill Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:05:54 -0400
> But what you say about git's suitability for such a hackathon is
> right on the mark. If Andy has a git repo, then the commit history
> could be preserved after the hackathon, without needed to give e
From: "Steve Scaffidi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:09:31 -0400
Just curious - about using revision control - perhaps this would be a good
opportunity for folks to try out Git? I've been learning the basics the last
week or so and I'm quite pleased with it, and I th
ps for an
Ackathon, testing some of these theories in the process, and then get a
quick start on actual hacking next month . . .
(But, FTR, I still haven't decided whether to go.)
-- Bob Rogers
From: "Ricker, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:06:25 -0400
> i may be evil but not THAT evil! :)
Uri, it's not about any actual evil. I would really really like to say
Yes to your kind offer. But Sean and I have to worry about the
*perception* of evil ev
From: Sean Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:22:22 -0400
Uri, as you offer professional recruiting services, I'm afraid this
might be a significant conflict of interests.
-Sean
This thought occurred to me, too, but I tend to agree with Uri. The
only real tempt
[1] went pretty well, though it might have
been more interesting if there had been more Perl 6 examples ready and
waiting for people to play with. I doubt I could prepare for that in
time, either; I mention it as a future possibility.
From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:13:24 -0700
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Bob Rogers wrote:
> That's source filtering, which is much cruder; it's a single hook that
> happens before lexing/parsing, rather than dur
From: Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:11:22 -0400
>>>>> "BR" == Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BR> Lisp goes even farther down the road of blurring the boundary
BR> between interpreter and compiler
which I bet is also true for Perl). Even so, nobody thinks Lisp is a
"scripting language." Go figure.
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Bernardo
Last month, my Thinkpad running openSUSE 10.2 worked just fine with the
projector (though it's a 2004 model). And I would be bringing it
anyway, if folks would like to see the rest of my "Advanced Control
Structures in Parrot" talk for YAPC.
. I assume it
works on IE, so I conclude that IE must DWIM line endings. Fortunately,
even the IE users hated the app, so we never really used it, and I never
had to deal with getting it to work on a "real" browser (and could
therefore appreciate the comedy).
From: "Guillermo Roditi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:01:04 -0400
> How do you define "contribute"? Does it include submitting bug reports
> that do not contain source code?
What I had in mind involved source code, but I did not mean to write
off the work of
From: "Guillermo Roditi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:09:23 -0400
Hi Mongers,
. . . I was hoping that those of you who have participated in open
source hacking while employed could help me out by answering couple
of short questions.
This only applies to thos
discount. So,
is anyone else interested in becoming an honorary Modular Genetics [2]
team member for a day?
We haven't picked a date, by the way, but the choice may need to be
driven by the boss' schedule.
-- Bob Rogers
From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 06:40:40 -0700
On 9/11/07, Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:18:57 -0700
>
>On
rry
the argument. This point does not help your case, and would be
counterproductive in situations where "map" would be the better choice.
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From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:55:35 +0100
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 01:52:07AM -0400, Jeremy Muhlich wrote:
> I agree with David -- I think the entire Perl ecosystem has been
> structured in such a way that the shell + editor + cpan approach just
ment tools for Perl. I know where I'd put my
money. ;-}
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. In particular,
introducing an eval to the internals of Foo can never intercept the
nonlocal exit performed by the callback.
2. The notion of how many levels to exit (the "parent/grandparent"
thing) doesn't have to be hardwired. The Error sub
yway to figure out who the jerk is?
Greg
It's a Verizon IP. You can contact them and complain, or just firewall
the bozo off.
-- Bob Rogers
k, but it surprises me, too.
FWIW, the comma (list) operator appears to force enumeration, e.g.
for my $item (@$stuff, () x 0) { ... }
Neat, eh? Takes me back to Lisp before Common Lisp . . . too bad the
Perl idiom for "empty list" is not as concise.
From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:00:54 -0800
I'll be brief(er); my hands are beginning to hurt.
On 10/29/06, Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't follow. That reliable destruction happens when a
From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:25:32 -0700
On 10/27/06, Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:36:36 -0700
>
>
From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:36:36 -0700
On 10/26/06, Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:09:35 -0700
>
>[...]
From: Tom Metro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:11:22 -0400
Bob Rogers wrote:
>...they could mandate use of "use Enterprise" or whatever its called.
>
> Or maybe Perl::Critic [3] ?
Yes, in theory the 'use criticism'[
From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:09:35 -0700
On 10/26/06, Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: Tom Metro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[...]
>Guido made comparisons to Perl only in two areas - saying he like
From: Tom Metro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:35:26 -0400
Bob Rogers wrote:
> I was once told (by a fellow Lisp refugee) that Python is the
> favorite "new" language of Lisp programmers because it has similar
> semantics.
Sure, Paul
From: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:12:53 -0700
On 10/24/06, Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: Tom Metro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:01:39 -0400
>
>. . .
>
drunk
deeply of the functional programming wine. FWIW.
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ost as concise (though it's not
equivalent if %mybus is already populated):
%mybus = map { "bus1[$_]" => $sigs[$_]; } 0..$#sigs;
Of course, some of this depends on my coding style -- I rewrote all of
these examples the way I normally code so that t
From: Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:42:48 -0400
> "JA" == John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JA> David H. Adler wrote:
>> So. Mom and I are taking a cruise next month up the east coast and into
>> Canada. We've got a day (22 Oct, if I'v
From: "Tolkin, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:51:04 -0400
Summary: How to use Perl 5.8.0 to handle files encoded using utf-16 on
Windows?
Details: . . .
How about trying to re-encode it as UTF-8 first? This should at least
give you some compression of the f
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:31:32 -0400
Hi Bob,
From the speaker's 180-degree panoramic view, where were you seated?
Bob Xiong
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I was seated just left of the break between the center and leftmost
tiers of seats. If we assume Audrey was
hope this is all academic.
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ot;.", which comes last. This WOULD cause a security problem if
Perl searched all directories for "*.pmc" files before searching for any
"*.pm" files. So I think Perl is doing the right thing.
-- Bob Rogers
From: Ted Zlatanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:41:48 -0400
On 2 Jun 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The Unix login process can be subverted by sudo (not to mention that
> > $USER can be set to anything, as others pointed out). You should
> > always request
From: Ted Zlatanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:22:25 -0400
On 1 Jun 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Let me clarify a bit more what I need to do. We want to use $USER
> to verify a valid user before running the program, so this is very
> unlikely go on the we
the order is natural (i.e. corresponding to the gradesheets the TA's
are probably typing from), and you provide a feature to jump to an
arbitrary student (i.e. by typing a prefix of their name instead of a
score) when the TA says "Oops."
My $0.02.
lling you essentially
the same thing.
I'll buy pizza for one of the next monger meetings.
Greg
Pizza not required; I can't eat the stuff. :-/
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at a
slightly higher-than-default priority, which might allow it to swap in
more quickly when the workload picked up. This would work best if the
actions were fairly lightweight, as will hog the CPU while
it's running. (I Haven't tried this recipe myself, though.)
From: Jeremy Muhlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:02:20 -0500
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 22:25 -0500, Bob Rogers wrote:
>Frequently I need to execute certain portions of the code (e.g that
>creates files / directories) with the user's per
e more secure, since it doesn't
require a shell, but that of course depends on what you do with it. In
any case, it ought to be more efficient.
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_
map { exists($varHash{$_}) ? $varHash{$_} : $_;
} split(/([\w\d]+)/, $template)));
and you're done.
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8
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So the behavior of eval is counterintuitive if you are expecting lexical
scoping. (Which you should be, given all those "my" variables.)
I'm sure this is what Ben meant by "Closures would get this right."
(Sor
$some_other_thing = do_something_else();
};
if ($@) ...
In fact, I wouldn't even swear I understood how $to_something and
$some_other_thing are scoped in the first case. (Not that I believe
I'll ever need to know.)
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; /$re/g && print "1 = $1\n 2 = $2 \n";
print "$re\n";'
1 = abcdefghijkl
2 = mnopqur
\G(.{12})(.*)
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But this is still extremely ugly. I thi
between the elements of the date must be dashes.
So maybe try (a) "Set-Cookie:" with an absolute "Expires" time, or (b)
"Set-Cookie2:" with "max-age=3600"?
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ng Pg on it, I
note that YaST2 shows a postgresql-devel package. Based on similar
experiences, I'd be willing to bet that if you install this, DBD::Pg
will find what it needs.
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http://
advantageous to
"join" Boston at the time. That also explains street name conflicts,
for streets named in the 17th and 18th centuries. Because of that, and
because these "neighborhoods" had been independent jurisdictions for
200+ years, the old nomenclature has been a
t; }
GetOptions ({}, 'x=i', 'foo=i', 'bar=i', '<>' => \&process);
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7
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Saving @ARGV beforehand and restoring it afterward is lef
n't be surprised to
learn that it violates all kinds of RFCs, though. It could be that
doing it that way makes it easier for them to block broadcasts from
noisy Windows clients, but that's just a guess.
-- Bob Rogers
even called those folks one day and they refuse to own up to anything!
If it won't work in a browser that is more secure than IE, I don't want
to visit.
-- Bob Rogers
ht
using it. But if it threatens to hit MS in their pocketbook, it will
happen.
But then, I do my best to ignore Windows, and have been largely
successful at it, so I'm hardly an expert.
-- Bob Rogers
roblems with some of the example code).
The easiest thing for the end user, of course, would be something
like the MacOS "fat binary" that supported both 680x0 and PPC in the
same install . . .
-- Bob Rogers
From: Sean Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:12:00 -0500
After learning Quanta for web development I'm much more interested in
looking at improved coding tool for Perl. I've played with Eclipse a
little, and intend to get back to it when I have a a couple tuits.
From: Aaron Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:00:15 -0500
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 19:32 -0500, Bob Rogers wrote:
>The type safe programming languages instead force you to pre-declare
>that a variable is a "string" or "int
where Perl modules and add-ons are stored. In this
repository everything from genetic modeling software to Web server
management tools to protocol implementations to graphics toolkits is
managed by contributors and authors.
CPAN would be helped by dynamic type safety. It
From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:23:05 +
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 08:52:40PM -0500, Bob Rogers wrote:
> That depends on the number of possible tracking numbers vs. the number
> of possible "username.pw" strings. Since you
not storing the card number.
Of course, this all hinges on keeping those URLs and/or cookies that
contain the tracking number secure. The user would probably want to
bookmark the status page; wouldn't that also be vulnerable to Javascript
exploits?
before "committing" changes, but I see no mention of
that in the report (http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/tech_report/, for
reference). And if it did that, it seems to me, adding or changing one
byte per file wouldn't improve the matter.
Or am I misund
ou explain to him that he
was in an extremely esoteric and rare situation? Reliability means
never having to say you're sorry.
-- Dan Bernstein, author of qmail
-- Bob Rogers
e a slight preference for qmail, but it hasn't been
worth the hassle to switch. (Though I may do so eventually, if I ever
finish building RPMs for the qmail suite.)
-- Bob Rogers
quot;web testing", "mod_perl," and/or "teaching perl," in
roughly that order.
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From: Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:11:42 -0400
>>>>> "BR" == Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BR>The Parse sub is a prime example of what I would consider
BR> counterproductive code decorat
From: "Greg London" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:00:24 -0400 (EDT)
Bob Rogers said:
>Seriously, splitting up the options this way does make it easier to
> combine them, but it still requires globals to store the values, and as
> long
From: Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:37:14 -0400
>>>>> "BR" == Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BR>But this morning, I had an idea for Pod::CLOD while showering.
BR> (That's a good sign
09 Sep 2004 10:47:45 -0400
Greg London wrote:
>
> Bob Rogers wrote:
> > I have places where the command_line_options method calls
> > SUPER::command_line_options in order to replace/rename options, so I
> > need some way to supercede and/or rename things.
From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:11:29 +0100
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 11:41:55PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote:
> Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> supershited:
> > > use strict;
> > use warnings should be here too.
> T
From: Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 00:17:15 -0400
>>>>> "BR" == Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BR> use strict;
use warnings should be here too.
Thank you; that sounds like a good idea. (Though usual
From: Sean Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:25:07 -0400
Although I haven't personally come across the need to have multiple
scripts have re-used command line options yet (other than a few old
historic cases), this sounds like an interesting project for handling
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