Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2012-08-14 Thread Tom Metro
Bill Ricker wrote: > ...we may make that an ongoing exemption from > moderation of job-posting in boston-pm for perhaps those trustees with > unmoderated boston-pm-announce privileges, not just Uri -- revocable > for violations of above 1-3. Discuss. That sounds fair. The objective of moderation

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2012-08-14 Thread Bill Ricker
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: > i sent ronald a job posting but he hasn't forwarded to the list yet. i know > ronald and bob clancy are the two who approved those. are they both still > interested in doing this? i wouldn't mind a bit of quicker response as some > of my

[Boston.pm] job postings

2012-08-14 Thread Uri Guttman
hi all, i sent ronald a job posting but he hasn't forwarded to the list yet. i know ronald and bob clancy are the two who approved those. are they both still interested in doing this? i wouldn't mind a bit of quicker response as some of my leads are time sensitive. would anyone else want the

[Boston.pm] Job postings policy restated

2008-07-02 Thread Bill Ricker
:Per discussion offlist between the Outgoing Facilitator and the Incoming Facilitator, there is NO CHANGE in the Boston.PM Job Posting policy (previously adopted by vote at a meeting whenver Rondald said it was.) In particular, the screening address remains Ronald's [EMAIL PROTECTED] As part of

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Ronald J Kimball
I can see the potential conflict in interest in having someone who does recruiting work handling the job postings. Obviously it is a concern to some of our members. Very few job postings I received were rejected. I often send them back to the submitter for additional info. I reformatted most

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Uri Guttman
>>>>> "AL" == Andrew Langmead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AL> There are a couple of other ways that an evil headhunter who was in AL> charge of the boston.pm job postings could use the position to their AL> own private advantage. (I'm not talking

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Uri Guttman
> "TM" == Tom Metro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TM> OK, seems we have three votes for self-moderation...in other matters... TM> Ben Tilly wrote: >> ...regularly make a post listing any recent jobs.perl.org offerings >> in the Boston area. The more I think about it, the better that

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Uri Guttman
> "CD" == Chris Devers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CD> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: >> if someone else really wants to do it, fine with me but no one has >> piped up about it. CD> Oh fer cryin' out loud, how hard can it be? CD> The conflict of interest here is obvious.

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Andrew Langmead
per acquisition is low. > Unless they are really clued in to Boston.PM, they will not know that > Uri is a headhunter. If they are clued in, they know enough about Uri > to not worry. Where is the problem? There are a couple of other ways that an evil headhunter who was in charge of the b

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Chris Devers
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: > if someone else really wants to do it, fine with me but no one has > piped up about it. Oh fer cryin' out loud, how hard can it be? The conflict of interest here is obvious. Sorry, Uri, but there's no getting around it. Fox guarding the henhouse and

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Metro
OK, seems we have three votes for self-moderation...in other matters... Ben Tilly wrote: > ...regularly make a post listing any recent jobs.perl.org offerings > in the Boston area. The more I think about it, the better that option > looks. Particularly if you can write an automated script to

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Sean Quinlan
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 19:20 -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: > From: "Ricker, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Or we could consider a change of policy to just allow posting (with same >caveat of locality and relevance), thus avoiding the issue entirely. > >Bill > > That makes much more sense.

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Bob Rogers
From: "Ricker, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:06:25 -0400 > i may be evil but not THAT evil! :) Uri, it's not about any actual evil. I would really really like to say Yes to your kind offer. But Sean and I have to worry about the *perception* of evil

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Uri Guttman
> "RW" == Ricker, William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RW> Sorry Uri, but unless you were to swear off taking fees from *all* local RW> business (which I can neither ask, nor suggest nor expect), I think we RW> need to have someone else, someone who *appears* *objectively* neutral, RW>

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Ben Tilly
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Ben Tilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Unless they are really clued in to Boston.PM, they will not know that > Uri is a headhunter. If they are clued in, they know enough about Uri > to not worry. Where is the problem? I would suggest not worrying > about

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:38:02PM -0400, Tom Metro wrote: > As long as we provide a contact person that posters can consult with on > questionable items, self-moderation will probably be fine. I support this model. It seems fairly simple. Given that the purpose of moderation is to avoid abuse,

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Metro
William Ricker wrote: > Or we could consider a change of policy to just allow posting (with same > caveat of locality and relevance), thus avoiding the issue entirely. Practically speaking, the list isn't moderated, so any job poster who is conscientious enough to read the list policy and

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Greg London
ppear. Greg London From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ben Tilly Sent: Mon 6/30/2008 2:39 PM To: Ricker, William Cc: boston-pm@mail.pm.org; Sean Quinlan; Uri Guttman Subject: Re: [Boston.pm] job postings On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Ricker, Willi

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Ben Tilly
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Ricker, William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> i may be evil but not THAT evil! :) > > Uri, it's not about any actual evil. I would really really like to say > Yes to your kind offer. But Sean and I have to worry about the > *perception* of evil even where it

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Ricker, William
> i may be evil but not THAT evil! :) Uri, it's not about any actual evil. I would really really like to say Yes to your kind offer. But Sean and I have to worry about the *perception* of evil even where it isn't. Local companies, some of whom sponsor Boston.PM, expect postings to the list

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-29 Thread Uri Guttman
> "BR" == Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BR>From: Sean Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BR>Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:22:22 -0400 BR>Uri, as you offer professional recruiting services, I'm afraid this BR>might be a significant conflict of interests. BR>-Sean

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-29 Thread Bob Rogers
From: Sean Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:22:22 -0400 Uri, as you offer professional recruiting services, I'm afraid this might be a significant conflict of interests. -Sean This thought occurred to me, too, but I tend to agree with Uri. The only real

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-29 Thread Uri Guttman
> "SQ" == Sean Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SQ> Uri, as you offer professional recruiting services, I'm afraid this SQ> might be a significant conflict of interests. i would disagree. i don't compete with other listings nor do i care. the more listings the better is my view. i

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-29 Thread Sean Quinlan
Uri, as you offer professional recruiting services, I'm afraid this might be a significant conflict of interests. -Sean On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 16:53 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > hi all, > > now that ronald has retired, one of his jobs that needs to be filled is > handling job postings here. i

[Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-26 Thread Uri Guttman
hi all, now that ronald has retired, one of his jobs that needs to be filled is handling job postings here. i would like to volunteer for that task especially as i am already in that business. i will adhere to the same rules which is that the jobs must be perl-centric and in the boston area and