At 12:31 AM 7/4/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote:
If you want a serious discussion of religion, we should
probably all agree to adopt an agnostic viewpoint for the duration.
But is it likely to be any more possible for the believers to adopt an
agnostic viewpoint, even temporarily, than for
At 12:29 PM 7/3/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
If you think you might be stressed out, take the dolphin stress test at
http://webpages.charter.net/hkirtley/stress/
My first reaction upon seeing the subject line is What does a dolphin have
to be stressed out about, anyway?
--Ronn! :)
I
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:13:00AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
But is it likely to be any more possible for the believers to adopt
an agnostic viewpoint, even temporarily, than for the agnostics or
atheists to adopt the viewpoint of a believer, even temporarily?
In other words, is it
--- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm personally aghast by this development:
Scientists in the United States have created hybrid human “she-males,”
mixing male and female cells in the same embryo
http://www.msnbc.com/news/934076.asp?0cv=CB10
In my mind, this is a gross
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect JDG is taunting you, Fool. Remember, he liked to
provoke Jeroen and then complain to the listowners when Jeroen
reacted. Recently, JDG posted his silly whining about how he thinks
there are a bunch of atheists here who are attacking him. Now
On 4 Jul 2003 at 12:55, Russell Chapman wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
Bid shielding is where you bid low and then use another Ebay ID to
bid really high. So one-one else bids. Then you withdraw the high bid
at the last minute. Except ebay stops you from withdrawing bids
towards the end of
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of The Fool
...
The Bible makes all kinds of verifiably false assertions. So why should
any one particular absurdity that he is putting forth merit any more
--- iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At least we discuss religion here, which beats the heck out of
communities that pretend it doesn't exist or those that can't
touch on the subject without an immediate flame war.
Wait,
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3895
The next generation of spacecraft propulsion systems could be dead in
the water before they are even launched. A physicist is claiming that
solar sailing - the idea of using sunlight to blow spacecraft across
the solar system - is at odds
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of David Hobby
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:31 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: God, Religion, and Sports
iaamoac wrote:
The very point I have been trying to make here is that intelligent
discussion of religion is
But Thomas Gold from Cornell University in New York says the proponents
of solar sailing have forgotten about thermodynamics, the branch of
physics governing heat transfer.
I tend to agree with him. The solar radiation force will always be a
minor nuisance, and to turn it into the major
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,59495,00.html
Government Prying, the Good Kind
By Michelle Delio
The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest,
according to the architect of the Declaration of Independence and third
president of the United States, Thomas Jefferson.
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:41:05AM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
No? Really? JDG wouldn't do something like that would he?
What do you think?
It sounds as if you are calling JDG a social manipulator. That would
be quite an insult.
Why?
Do you really think that he would provoke someone to the
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:47:11PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3895
If I've understood Gold correctly, it seems to me that he is saying that
a single photon has a temperature that obeys thermodynamic laws, but a
photon does NOT have
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want a serious discussion of religion, we should
probably all agree to adopt an agnostic viewpoint for the duration.
But what kind of discussion is it where one adopts a viewpoint that
one does not seriously believe?
Fission, fusion, antimatter or even total mss annhihilation [that depends
on the instability of the proton - which AFAIK is still is doubt] are
the only ways to go to the stars
Alberto Monteiro
What about gravity? (Only works with closest star).
Kevin T. - VRWC
Why ain't I working?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Jan Coffey
Sent: Friday,
There was plenty to respond to, but I'll pick this one...
the guy preaching to you on sunday has
no right to
tell you anything becouse you know he sins just as much as anybody.
From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want a serious discussion of religion, we should
probably all agree to adopt an agnostic viewpoint for the duration.
But what kind of discussion is it where one adopts a viewpoint that
Kevin Tarr wrote:
Fission, fusion, antimatter or even total mss annhihilation [that depends
on the instability of the proton - which AFAIK is still is doubt] are
the only ways to go to the stars
What about gravity? (Only works with closest star).
You mean something like gravitics? Or
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:13:49PM -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Having read somewhere that spider silk has greater tensile strength
than steel, I looked up a few articles. It seems that the properties
of spider silk that allow it to be both strong and resilient/elastic,
while still not
iaamoac wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want a serious discussion of religion, we should
probably all agree to adopt an agnostic viewpoint for the duration.
But what kind of discussion is it where one adopts a viewpoint that
one does
Wierd - I didn't know you could withdraw a bid at any time - I thought
once you put it in you had made an offer...
You'd have to wonder what's wrong with just bidding on it like a regular
person. We're not talking millions here...
Doesn't withdrawing a bid inpact negatively with your Ebay
At 04:16 PM 7/4/2003 +, you wrote:
Kevin Tarr wrote:
Fission, fusion, antimatter or even total mss annhihilation [that depends
on the instability of the proton - which AFAIK is still is doubt] are
the only ways to go to the stars
What about gravity? (Only works with closest star).
You
Michael Harney wrote:
Every time I bring up anything related to vegetarianism I get pounced on by
people acting less than civil. I learned that I either have to accept that
behavior from others or simply not bring up the topic. I don't whine and
complain that the brin-l isn't my version of
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:43:12PM -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote:
No I meant, tongue planted firmly in check, that you'll go to the
nearest star if you let gravity do the work. I'm sure I'm missing many
Better be careful not to fall asleep on the beach with your mouth
open. With the sunlight and
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:47:57PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
How would you get 100-120 grams of protein per day on a vegetarian
diet? How much of what would you have to eat?
Isn't it more complicated than that? I am under the impression that
vegetarians have to keep track of specific
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:47:57PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
How would you get 100-120 grams of protein per day on a vegetarian
diet? How much of what would you have to eat?
Isn't it more complicated than that? I am under the impression that
vegetarians have to
At 02:52 PM 7/4/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:43:12PM -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote:
No I meant, tongue planted firmly in check, that you'll go to the
nearest star if you let gravity do the work. I'm sure I'm missing many
Better be careful not to fall asleep on the beach with your
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From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missiles to have
globalreach)
Can you imagine if steel elevator cables were replaced with
bungee
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Solar sailing 'breaks laws of physics'
At 04:16 PM 7/4/2003 +, you wrote:
Kevin Tarr wrote:
Fission, fusion, antimatter or
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:31 AM 7/4/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote:
If you want a serious discussion of religion, we should
probably all agree to adopt an agnostic viewpoint for the duration.
But is it likely to be any more possible for the believers to adopt an
agnostic
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:47:11PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3895
If I've understood Gold correctly, it seems to me that he is saying that
a single photon has a temperature that obeys thermodynamic laws, but a
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:42:21PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can you imagine if steel elevator cables were replaced with
bungee cords? If a bunch of really large people got into the elevator,
would the elevator still line up with the floors at
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Harney wrote:
Every time I bring up anything related to vegetarianism I get pounced on
by
people acting less than civil. I learned that I either have to accept
that
behavior from others or simply not bring up the topic. I don't whine
and
- Original Message -
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missiles to
haveglobalreach)
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:42:21PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:47:57PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
How would you get 100-120 grams of protein per day on a vegetarian
diet? How much of what would you have to eat?
Isn't it more complicated than that? I am under the impression that
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:17:45PM -0600, Michael Harney wrote:
If my understanding is correct, soy beans have all of the protiens
the human body needs. Aside from soy beans, all one has to do is eat
beans and rice to get the full spectrum of necessary protiens.
Could you rephrase this? It
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:17:45PM -0600, Michael Harney wrote:
If my understanding is correct, soy beans have all of the protiens
the human body needs. Aside from soy beans, all one has to do is eat
beans and rice to get the full spectrum of
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:09:28PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
I got your point Erik, its just silly and exagerrated.
If you did, the you just don't understand the physics involved. And yes,
the comment was meant to illustrate the point in a silly way.
Once the load is applied to the
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:46:56PM -0600, Michael Harney wrote:
The phrase aside from was poorly chosen in that context I
appologize. perhapse I should have said something to the effect of in
the absense of soybeans. Does this clarify things for you?
Yes, thanks. I believe you are saying
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,12100,00.html
xponent
Disco Is Dead Now Maru
rob
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From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missiles
tohaveglobalreach)
xponent I'm S Stupid Maru rob
I don't think so, but you
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 05:51:49PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/elevator5.htm
This page shows what I was saying is accurate.
No it does not. That page is talking about elevators with steel cables.
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missiles
tohaveglobalreach)
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 05:51:49PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 06:03:59PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Then you admit that your scenario with a bungee cord elevator is a
complete fantasy! G
Hey, you are getting closer to understanding my point, and it only took
repeating about 4 times!
My scenario, while not a complete fantasy
At 07:44 PM 7/4/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Me mum always says licorice will give you a good run for your money.
Really? My mom said that prunes would . . .
--Ronn! :)
I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon.
I never dreamed that I would see the last.
--Dr.
In a message dated 6/29/2003 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Sounds like _Lifeforce_ without Mathilda May. Bah
Or that Richard Matheson novel that got made into The Last Man
on Earth with Vincent Price, Omega Man with Charlton
Heston,
and yet another planned
In a message dated 6/29/2003 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Sounds like _Lifeforce_ without Mathilda May. Bah
Or that Richard Matheson novel that got made into The Last Man
on Earth with Vincent Price, Omega Man with Charlton
Heston,
and yet another planned
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/29/2003 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Sounds like _Lifeforce_ without Mathilda May. Bah
Or that Richard Matheson novel that got made into The Last Man
on Earth with Vincent Price, Omega Man with Charlton
I've been so incredibly busy with work lately so I've been cutting back
on posting Scouted stories to the list. (In fact, from here on in,
they'll probably just wind up on my blog instead.) But I thought this
might be of as much interest to brinellers as it was to me. It's an
essay by Clay
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Robert Seeberger
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 6:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Soul Man Barry White Dies
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,12100,00.html
xponent
Disco Is Dead Now Maru
rob
So young: he was only
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