Re: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Kevin Tarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There didn't seem to be much interest here, I thought. I watched the penultimate stage live, postponing a bike ride of my own until I saw the result. Then I recorded the same stage while I was work, just to see if I missed anything. I treid to record the fin

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Ritu
Gautam Mukunda wrote: > Bush > _used_ the sympathy 9/11 generated to make possible > something that would not have been possible without it > - the removal of Saddam Hussein, something that was > clearly not in the interest of anyone in the region or > in Europe (save England). I completely ag

RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-30 Thread Ritu
John D. Giorgis wrote: > >I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Terrorism has existed > >for recorded history. Don't forget that when they win, terrorists > >are called "freedom fighters" or "revolutionaries". > > I disagree with this. Suicide bombings, hijackings, > Oklahoma City-sty

Re: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: > Did anyone else catch his Nike ad? It only ran every 5 minutes during > the coverage. ;) Awesome! I just noticed the Subaru ad, myself. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Life and Death

2003-07-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug Pensinger wrote: > > Three weeks ago, for my birthday, my wife and kids got me a little > yellow sided conure (a small, new world parrot). At about 12 weeks old > she isn't quite full grown yet. She was hand raised, and is > affectionate, mischievous, curious, and altogether endearing. As

RE: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Jon Gabriel
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Julia Thompson > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:02 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Lance! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it > > started, I'm s

Life and Death

2003-07-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Three weeks ago, for my birthday, my wife and kids got me a little yellow sided conure (a small, new world parrot). At about 12 weeks old she isn't quite full grown yet. She was hand raised, and is affectionate, mischievous, curious, and altogether endearing. As I write this she is sitting o

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:15 PM 7/30/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>There is my shot. Where is the British evidence? As is usual in the intelligence business, the British said that they can't reveal their sources so as to preserve their leads. Now what? JDG - Choose, Bob. _

Re: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:41 PM 7/30/2003 -0400, you wrote: Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now that it's over, that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more stirring than the previous 4, as his triu

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > > However, the emergant property is very troubeling. I do not wish to be > 70 > > and > > > working long hours every day. What kind of life is it where you get out > > of

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/29/2003 10:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Actually, Bush *did* do that, and Britain said that they completely stand > by their intelligence with the highest degree of confidence. > Oh I get it; it went like this. Bush- "Do you guys have inform

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > However, the emergant property is very troubeling. I do not wish to be 70 > and > > working long hours every day. What kind of life is it where you get out > of > > bed go to work, leave work, come home and go directly to be

Re: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it > started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now that it's over, > that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more stirring than > the previous 4, as his triumph w

Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread TomFODW
Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now that it's over, that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more stirring than the previous 4, as his triumph was in doubt until the next-to-las

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread TomFODW
> Restrictions on the free flow of information. > The subjugation of women. > Inability to accept responsibility for individual or collective failure. > The extended family or clan as the basic unit of social organization. > Domination by a restrictive religion. > A low valuation of education. > Lo

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote: > However, the emergant property is very troubeling. I do not wish to be 70 and > working long hours every day. What kind of life is it where you get out of > bed go to work, leave work, come home and go directly to bed? Many do that > now, and are proud of it. They are nothing b

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Jan Coffey
There are dangers there. Take these seven factors and turn them around. Some of them will not sound so pleasing once you get under the surface and down to the "WHY" the Lt. Cln. addresses. A highly effective society could also emplode with tyrany. What kind of life are we willing to have where we

Re: [Listref] Near-death experiences (NDE)

2003-07-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> commented > on some Near-death experiences (NDE) that they are > > Vehhh-rrrhy Interesting - But Not-Proof > > which I agree with. But the reports are suggestive, > aren't they? As I said - very inte

Re: Science and knowledge of equines

2003-07-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jon Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >--- Jon Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Someone must have trai- er, taught you well. ;} > > > Aye. I also have a strong self-preservation > > >

Re: TI interpreation of QM

2003-07-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: Re: TI interpreation of QM > > The example that I find offensive goes something like this: > Locations A, B, and C are seperat

Re: Harry Potter 5 (no spoilers)

2003-07-30 Thread Russell Chapman
Tom Beck wrote: In general, I think, Rowling does much better with her good guys than with her villains. A lot of this is simply the context the books are written in - it is entirely from Harry's perspective. I can't think of any narration that occurs outside Harry's observation, and Harry o

Re: TI interpreation of QM

2003-07-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: Re: TI interpreation of QM > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discuss

The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Chad Cooper
This paper was written 5 years ago The Seven Factors These key "failure factors" are: Restrictions on the free flow of information. The subjugation of women. Inability to accept responsibility for individual or collective failure. The extended family or clan as the basic unit of social o

Weekly Chat Remonder

2003-07-30 Thread Steve Sloan II
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started a little over three hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruc

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words > At 12:18 AM 7/30/2003 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > >> Actually, Bush *did* do that, and Britain

tech help

2003-07-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
Is there a header tag to mark special subjects? I thought there was, but cannot think of it. I want to know of any tools that can capture ActiveX commands or hidden JavaScript. It's nothing bad, and I won't use it myself, but I want to see how someone is doing what they are doing with a web pag

Re: Harry Potter 5 (no spoilers)

2003-07-30 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jim (I think) wrote: Of course, I'm about the only person who liked Luna Lovegood among people I;ve talked to, so what do I know? :) Jon replied: I like Looney too. :) Me Too (tm)! Reggie Bautista No Value Added Maru _ Add photos to

Re: Harry Potter 5 (not really spoiler free anymore)

2003-07-30 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jim wrote, re: Snape: >>Keeping up appearances, I imagine. He uses Occlumency to hide his >>true feelings from Voldermort, and favors Slytherin to demonstrate >>his continuing loyalty. Or at least that is my theory. I replied: >Keep your friends close and your enemies closer? I hadn't thought >

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Do we issolate people with the flu or AIDS to prevent these deseases from spreading? No. Actually, we sometimes do, although not for AIDS. It is called `quarantine'. As far as I know, quarantine has not yet been misused for political purposes. A legally similar process, incarceration i

Lying and competence

2003-07-30 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[I've been out of town.] On 24 Jul 2003, "Jon Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said Honorable, brave men would have attacked military targets This does not follow. After all, the goal in war is to gain an unfair advantage: to win, not to lose. Honorable, brave men do not intend to bring d

Lying and competence

2003-07-30 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[I've been out of town.] As a general rule, as far as I can see, not many Americans are bothered by a President who lies on topics of foreign policy. The practice is expected. But at the same time, a President and his administration are also expected to have a competent strategy. The lies are s

Lying and competence

2003-07-30 Thread Robert J. Chassell
As a general rule, as far as I can see, not many Americans are bothered by a President who lies on topics of foreign policy. The practice is expected. But at the same time, a President and his administration are also expected to have a competent strategy. The lies are supposed to advance the str

Re: Who Are the US's Allies? Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
John D. Giorgis wrote: > And despite you snide remarks about '''fluffing up," there is nothing > fluffed up about calling Japan and Australia major players in foreign > affairs. two glaring omissions from Bob's list. Australia a major player in foreign affairs??? Do you perhaps say this b

Re: TI interpreation of QM

2003-07-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: Re: TI interpreation of QM > What I have a hard time understanding is the (real long term) problem with > "backwards in time sig

RE: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-30 Thread Horn, John
> From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Franks is, I think, a choice that might surprise > people a little bit. I'm quite serious, though. > Tommy Franks, as leader of CENTCOM, led the liberation > of two countries at a cost of less than 500 allied > lives. Where the Soviet Union a

RE: Justifying the War Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Horn, John
> From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > By the way - of the recent developments in the nuclear programs of the > DPRK, India, Pakistan, Iran, and Iraq over the past 15 years > - how many > occurred with the knowledge of US intelligence sources? > > I'll give you a hint - the ans

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[I've been out of town.] On 25 Jul 2003, "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... -- intelligence to the president is supposed to be thoroughly checked, not just for accuracy, but also for "spin" and such. I can't say much about who the reviewing parties are, or how many peop

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[I've been out of town.] On 25 Jul 2003, "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote QUESTION 1) The British inform us that they have learned that Iraq has recently tried to acquire significant quantities of intelligence in Africa. The Bush Administration naturally tries to verify

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:18 AM 7/30/2003 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: >> Actually, Bush *did* do that, and Britain said that they completely stand >> by their intelligence with the highest degree of confidence. > >Which British? The worker bees, or top management. So, your position is that if you had been running the B

Re: Harry Potter 5 (not really spoiler free anymore)

2003-07-30 Thread TomFODW
> That's a good point I hadn't thought about.  Ambition is not, in and of > itself, an evil trait, and it is the one Slytherin most valued.  If you can > point those ambitious kids along the right path, you've got a better chance of > keeping them from the Dark Arts than you would if you sent th

RE: Harry Potter 5 (no spoilers)

2003-07-30 Thread Ritu
Gautam Mukunda wrote: > I have to admit that I _was_ a little surprised by who > died. I thought right up until the final battle that > it would be Hagrid - and by the time the battle > started I was too caught up in it to even remember > that someonme was supposed to die. I agree that it > di

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 08:06:22PM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:18:22 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote: > > > > >But that seems to be _your_ argument. If we understand why they > > >are angry at us and seek to act in such a way as to as

RE: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-30 Thread Ritu
Jon Gabriel wrote: > >You deserve a medal for reading Ann Coulter on a regular basis. :) > > LOL! I didn't buy her books though. Don't blame you - I was gifted one of her books years ago. *shudder* I had to make it disappearit was polluting the other books on my shelf. > She is just vi

RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-30 Thread Ritu
John D. Giorgis wrote: > At 03:11 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 Horn, John wrote: > >I don't know. It is a scary proposition. We cannot defeat > every terrorist > >in the world. > > We cannot? Then why is it that suicide bombing is almost unheard of > almost everywhere in the world? It doesn't stri

Re: Hello!

2003-07-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 7/29/2003 7:24:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Take note of the Return of the King posters now > > appearing in movie theaters. > > > That's not a real suit of chainmaile. Rows of rings > > have been sewn ont