Re: ADMIN: More blasted testing

2003-08-26 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/25/2003 9:38:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I've upgraded Mailman from 2.1 to 2.1.2 and hope that now > it'll behave. But > there's also a patch I think I need to apply... > > Let's just see if this message gets out. Got it > > -- > Nick

ECTS

2003-08-26 Thread Andrew Crystall
I'm going as press. Anyone else? Want to meet up? Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: ADMIN: Another test from Yahoo...

2003-08-26 Thread Jan Coffey
I just posted to the list and it seemed to work. I was using yahoo as well. --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Arnett wrote: > > > > Not sure if we're there yet or not. Somebody post to the list! If I > > weren't getting my own messages, this would be easier! > > I just g

Re: Why extra virgin olive oil is so healthy

2003-08-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ticia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also a test. Have I been unsubbed or something? > > > Why is extra virgin olive oil so healthy? > > Olive oil is rich in monounsaturated fats, but so is lard - so something > else may be the secret of olive oil's remarkable benefits. Unlike vegetable > oil

Re: Creative spam

2003-08-26 Thread Jan Coffey
Just in case you missed this. > > I am working on an even better solution than spam blocking. > > Well, I say "working on" but at this point it is just an idea I through out > last night to a friend or two. > > Here is the gist: > > You create a mailpass key. It's a public key which you pass t

Re: ADMIN: Another test from Yahoo...

2003-08-26 Thread David Hobby
Nick Arnett wrote: > > Not sure if we're there yet or not. Somebody post to the list! If I > weren't getting my own messages, this would be easier! I just got this--I'm posting right back. Yes, I read you loud and clear... Oops, it's dated Monday.

Quote from Segway article Rob posted

2003-08-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Full article at http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/2060812 Wade Adams lives close to Rice and rides his Segway two miles from home to campus almost every day. Starting Sept. 1, Texas law officially makes the Segway legal to ride on all sidewalks, bike lanes and, when there

Test

2003-08-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Is the list dead again? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Breaker breaker...

2003-08-26 Thread Doug Pensinger
Test message. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Creative spam

2003-08-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:12 AM 8/23/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Gary Nunn wrote: > > Spammers can certainly be as creative as they can be annoying. > > With MailWasher, I am bouncing and deleting an average of 30 messages a > day, probably twice that on weekends. I am assuming that those weekend > spammers have

Brin-l killed by so big or just hurt?

2003-08-26 Thread Dan Minette
Its been too quiet. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Tomorrow Happens

2003-08-26 Thread Jon Gabriel
Not that anyone will see this, but I finally ordered Tomorrow Happens. Has anyone read it yet? What did you think? From Dr. Brin's site: Announcing the arrival of my third, and newest, short story collection, Tomorrow Happens. This special edition by NESFA Press contains nearly all of my

Why extra virgin olive oil is so healthy

2003-08-26 Thread Ticia
Also a test. Have I been unsubbed or something? Why is extra virgin olive oil so healthy? Olive oil is rich in monounsaturated fats, but so is lard - so something else may be the secret of olive oil's remarkable benefits. Unlike vegetable oils derived from seeds, olive oil is derived from a fruit

RE: Brazilian Rocket Explodes on Launch Pad

2003-08-26 Thread Horn, John
From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John Horn asked: >> >> I hope Alberto is OK. >> > I have nothing to do with this program. BTW, I may have some > good news on Tuesday. That's good. I knew you are some sort of rocket scientist! - jmh Just Checking Maru ___

Brin: Religion is Funny and Must Be Enjoyed

2003-08-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
It has been suggested to me that some here might derive some enjoyment from a piece I wrote some months ago, particularly since it's clear in retrospect that there was at least some subconscious Brin influence: <> -- Ronn! :)

Segue to the future

2003-08-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
[I'm pretty sure this guy Moore is the fellow I see on his Segway in my neighborhood. rob] http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/2060812 xponent Segway Has Risen From The Grave (Of Dead Issues) Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/

ADMIN: More blasted testing

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
I've upgraded Mailman from 2.1 to 2.1.2 and hope that now it'll behave. But there's also a patch I think I need to apply... Let's just see if this message gets out. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.co

ADMIN: Another test from Yahoo...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Not sure if we're there yet or not. Somebody post to the list! If I weren't getting my own messages, this would be easier! -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

faux news endorsing Schwarzenegger in partisan race

2003-08-26 Thread The Fool
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm FOXNEWS ORDERS AN END TO WORD-PLAYS ON SCHWARZENEGGER MOVIES; SERIOUS CANDIDATE, SERIOUS COVERAGE Sun Aug 24 2003 16:10:31 ET Fox News Channel senior vice president John Moody has ordered an end to Schwarzenegger movie puns in news rotations, according to a

How it's been looking at my end

2003-08-26 Thread Julia Thompson
I'm one of the people who hasn't gotten any listmail since the missive sent by Dr. Brin. I'm also an admin who was trying to stay on top of things on Saturday. By sometime around the time Dr. Brin's missive went out, there had been 52 messages sent to the list requiring moderator attention. Most

wine and aging

2003-08-26 Thread The Fool
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39677-2003Aug24?language=printer Enzymes Found to Delay Aging Process Discovery Could Lead to Drugs to Extend Life Span By Rick Weiss Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, August 25, 2003; Page A02 Scientists have found for the first time a way to re

RE: Test

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Not sure what went wrong while I was away, but it apparently healed itself. Unfortunately, my admin backup is my friend fighting brain cancer, so when I'm away, it's difficult to cover this sort of problem. Redundancy -- that's what we need! Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL

testing

2003-08-26 Thread Halupovich Ilana
No e-mails since 22-Aug. :-( Ilana ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

ADMIN: I think I found the problem.

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
I think I finally figured out what happened. Our ISP made a change to its mail servers on Saturday morning, which apparently included a change of IP address. However, the old IP address still worked, yet most every attempt to relay through it was timing out. Now that I changed our local MTA to u

Scouted: Columbia Report Blames NASA

2003-08-26 Thread Jon Gabriel
According to this, the report really slams them: 'ineffective leadership' and a culture that ignored obvious, potential problems. Jon http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2003/08/26/columbia_report/index.html Excerpt: NASA culture blamed in shuttle report - - - - - - - - - - - - By Paul Recer Aug. 26

Hello... hello? Is this thing on?

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
I'm not sure what the deal is, but apparently some folks have gotten no list mail since sometime Saturday. I've just restarted Mailman, hoping that will get things moving again. We've had some other odd behavior since about that time, so I'm wondering if there are some sort of network difficultie

Testing...

2003-08-26 Thread William T Goodall
I've sent email to the list on Sunday (about not getting any email) but haven't seen anything in my inbox from the list since Saturday. I can see that a few messages have been added to the archive since then, but I haven't seen any of them in email. In fact the last list mail I received was th

testing

2003-08-26 Thread Ray Ludenia
William wrote: > I've sent email to the list on Sunday (about not getting any email) but > haven't seen anything in my inbox from the list since Saturday. I can > see that a few messages have been added to the archive since then, but > I haven't seen any of them in email. > > In fact the last li

Test

2003-08-26 Thread G. D. Akin
Just a test . . . went about 48 hours without a Brin list post. UNUSUAL! George A ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Unexamined Life

2003-08-26 Thread Reggie Bautista
At least here in Kansas City, school is starting up again. I have a friend at work who has a daugher going into first grade and another daughter entering pre-school for the first time. Her husband had to drop both daughters off this morning, but was made to promise to take lots of pictures; p

New Pictures, text: Dee's Glacier Trip

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Sloan II
I've added new pictures and commentary from Dee's trip to Glacier National Park to the travel page: http://www.brin-l.org/travel.html#deeglacier __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama => [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L l

Re: ADMIN: Back to our MTA

2003-08-26 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 8/26/2003 2:00:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm confounded. Or perhaps befuddled. It's hard to tell the difference. A confused plumber doesn't charge extra. He's usually fired. A befuddled plumber has to charge extra for the second person tha

Re: ADMIN: Possibly fixed?

2003-08-26 Thread Jon Gabriel
I seem to be getting mail. J From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ADMIN: Possibly fixed? Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:02:02 -0700 I found a large potential problem with the list server -- the

Test message - now with CONTENT! :)

2003-08-26 Thread Julia Thompson
The redistricting fight in Texas has inspired a humor columnist in Austin to come up with a new word - "Perrymandering". If this message gets back to me, I'll reply and include a URL. Otherwise, well, if you go to statesman.com and look for today's John Kelso column, you can find it there.

Re: [Listref] Childhood obesity - changing the culture

2003-08-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:50 PM 7/21/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: > "...Naomi Neufeld, a pediatric endocrinologist in Los > Angeles, recalls that in 1986, when she had just > started a non-profit weight-control program called > KidShape, obesity was considered primarily a cosmetic > problem

Testink

2003-08-26 Thread Ritu
No mail from this list in the last 4 days and none of my mails seem to be getting through. Ritu GCU Archives Indicate Some Activity ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Testing from Yahoo

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Testing to the list from Yahoo... -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brazilian Rocket Explodes on Launch Pad

2003-08-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People here blame USA sabotage for the failures of the VLS > rocket... That reminds me of people back in school who would find some way to blame those who scored high on tests thus setting the curve high enough that their %40 wasn't passing. ==

Testing...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
I'm sending another message just so that I can watch the mail log right afterwards... please ignore. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

ADMIN: Possibly fixed?

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
I found a large potential problem with the list server -- the wrong e-mail header object file in its library. I can't quite imagine how this got there on Saturday, when nobody was messing with anything, but it was certainly the wrong one. Perhaps something new triggered a latent problem... Let's

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-26 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see the difference between not criticizing > Chomsky, and not > criticizing Limbaugh. They both spout a lot of kooky > things. Your > argument about speaking without a script is a > rationalization -- if > Limbaugh cannot avoid ad-libbing all the

A Limerickal Test

2003-08-26 Thread Kevin Street
(Stolen from http://www.aps.org/apsnews/11855.html ) Kevin *** Proton Decay by David Halliday A proton once said, "I'll fulfill My long-term belief in free will. Though theorists (may) say That I ought to decay I'm damned if I think that I will." __

Re: ADMIN: Possibly fixed?

2003-08-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Jon Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: Re: ADMIN: Possibly fixed? > I seem to be getting mail. I'm getting mail too. Quite a bit of it actually and some of it even comes from Brin-L. But mostl

RE: Interesting little tidbit

2003-08-26 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 01:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Interesting little tidbit > > > Sometime earlier this year, I'd stumbled across a webpage > that listed all the mascots used by Texas high

List problem?

2003-08-26 Thread William T Goodall
I haven't received any list mail since Saturday. I think it's broken... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true.

RE: Testing...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Is it possible that the list is just quiet??? Looking at the posting logs, I don't see that any messages were posted (received by the mail server) other than the ones that appeared. However, I'm also still seeing network problems, so it's possible that mail to the list is queued up at our backup

WhaleRider

2003-08-26 Thread Kanandarqu
Thanks to whoever it was that suggested Whalerider (one of the Aussies?). Sometimes the little town I live in surprises me. Usually the streets roll up at 5pm (in the summer 8pm one night a week). A local group has helped renovate a small turn of the century theatre for foreign/independent

Blink Blink

2003-08-26 Thread Jon Gabriel
*tap tap* Is this thing on? Unsure if this has been posted to the list previously... An essay by Ray Bradbury on censorship. http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/451/451.html This concludes my test of the Brin-L broadcasting system. :) Jon Le Blog: http://zarq.livejournal.com _

ADMIN: Patching

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Okay, folks, I think I found the problem. It's a bug in Mailman, triggered by a username that contains 8-bit characters. I've just patched the code and I hope that'll take care of the problem, but I'm continuing to try to figure it out. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Testing

2003-08-26 Thread William T Goodall
Still nothing... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ "Aerospace is plumbing with the volume turned up." - John Carmack ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/br

ADMIN: Well...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
The logs look a bit more encouraging, so I'm calling it a night. I hope to get up in the morning to find a properly behaving list. It's been an adventure. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/l

[Listref] Geoghan killed in prison

2003-08-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/geoghan08232003.htm Former priest John Geoghan, a notorious pedophile whose case sparked the clergy molestation scandal of the past 18 months, died this afternoon after being attacked at the state prison in Shirley. ``The perpetrator has been isol

FW: ADMIN: Another test from Yahoo...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
This time, I'll actually send it from Yahoo (oops). -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:21 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: ADMIN: Another test from Yaho

Re: Creative spam

2003-08-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary Nunn wrote: > > > > Spammers can certainly be as creative as they can be annoying. > > > > With MailWasher, I am bouncing and deleting an average of 30 messages a > > day, probably twice that on weekends. I am assuming that those weekend > >

No list messages!

2003-08-26 Thread Horn, John
I am also one who has not received anything since the good doctor's post on Saturday. I saw Nick and Julia's messages in the Archives. (The archive at Yahoo Groups hasn't received anything either.) - John M. Horn IT Technical Expert HealthLink, Inc. 314-989-6050 [EMAIL PROTECTE

Interesting little tidbit

2003-08-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Sometime earlier this year, I'd stumbled across a webpage that listed all the mascots used by Texas high schools, giving the number of schools having each mascot. At the very bottom of the page was the list of unique mascots. "Hippo" was on that list. Someone told my mom that Hutto is the *only*

ADMIN: More possible fixes

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
The list doesn't seem much better this morning... so I've removed some lock files that were hanging around even when Mailman, the list server software, was shut down. Perhaps *that* will end this madness. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: ADMIN: Back to our MTA

2003-08-26 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 13:02 2003-08-26 -0700, Nick wrote: Brinellers, With any luck (of which we're having little lately), this message will reach you. Something weird began happening Saturday, stopping delivery of a lot of list mail. I can't figure it out -- I'm getting everything I send, as well as a few message

ADMIN: Back to our MTA

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Brinellers, With any luck (of which we're having little lately), this message will reach you. Something weird began happening Saturday, stopping delivery of a lot of list mail. I can't figure it out -- I'm getting everything I send, as well as a few messages that others have sent. I have just s