Re: Rita Aggie joke

2005-09-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:35 PM Subject: Rita Aggie joke > Here's how an Aggie prepares for a hurricane: > > http://people.tamu.edu/~andymac67/loupots3.JPG > Actually, I saw that in sev

Rita Aggie joke

2005-09-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Here's how an Aggie prepares for a hurricane: http://people.tamu.edu/~andymac67/loupots3.JPG Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: In School: Intelligent design, evolution, witchcraft & aliens.

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 6:06 PM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Try the mythology of the early Middle Eastern cultures. Humans were created as slaves to the gods. Oo, nice. Of course there's the Hindu approach as well. It seems to me that any ID-iotic curriculum would have to give equal ground to pretty muc

Re: In School: Intelligent design, evolution, witchcraft & aliens.

2005-09-26 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sep 26, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Another thought just occurred to me... Wouldn't it be ironic if we WERE the result of intelligent design... Maybe, thousands of years ago, we were genetically engineered, by some alien race, to be slaves, c

Re: Contraflow info

2005-09-26 Thread Russell Chapman
Dave Land wrote: Are you saying that countries like Japan do not have health or education budgets? I think the biggest contributor to our /not/ having the budget for projects like this would be military spending. Hell no - just that they have lots of money (esp true when they started this). T

Re: Contraflow info

2005-09-26 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 26, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Russell Chapman wrote: Dave Land wrote: From at least one of the shots, it seems that the supports for the ceiling of the "pitch pressure tank" are about 3-4 feet thick by 20-30 feet wide, spaced about 30-40 feet apart. There may or may not be a civil engineer o

Re: In School: Intelligent design, evolution, witchcraft & aliens.

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Another thought just occurred to me... Wouldn't it be ironic if we WERE the result of intelligent design... Maybe, thousands of years ago, we were genetically engineered, by some alien race, to be slaves, cheap labor or pets. They should also be

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:05 PM Monday 9/26/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: I've been to Houston now and again, and it's a mess to navigate in spots. Even more so when you have eight people from out of town in a subcompact car . . . In some places in the US, t

RE: In School: Intelligent design, evolution, witchcraft & aliens.

2005-09-26 Thread Jim Sharkey
Gary Nunn wrote: >Wouldn't it be ironic if we WERE the result of intelligent design... >Maybe, thousands of years ago, we were genetically engineered, by >some alien race, to be slaves, cheap labor or pets. They should >also be required to teach that theory. I've often wondered what the intel

In School: Intelligent design, evolution, witchcraft & aliens.

2005-09-26 Thread Gary Nunn
The fight to teach evolution or creation in schools will never go away. There will always be some pinhead group that insists in pushing their religious agenda into the classroom. My response would be something like: "Ok, lets teach Creation and evolution side by side, but along with that, we have

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:05 PM Monday 9/26/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: I've been to Houston now and again, and it's a mess to navigate in spots. Even more so when you have eight people from out of town in a subcompact car . . . --Ronn! :) "Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country

Re: Contraflow info

2005-09-26 Thread Russell Chapman
Dave Land wrote: From at least one of the shots, it seems that the supports for the ceiling of the "pitch pressure tank" are about 3-4 feet thick by 20-30 feet wide, spaced about 30-40 feet apart. There may or may not be a civil engineer on this list who can judge it better than I can, but I wou

Re: DVD news

2005-09-26 Thread Matt Grimaldi
> Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:55:14 -0400 > From: Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: DVD news > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > On 9/25/05, Matt Grimaldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Evacuation On 2005 Sep 25, Dan Feldstein and Matt Stiles in The Houston Chronicle wrote http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/

Re: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: I'm wondering, now, if you have any first-hand experience to support or refute any of the ideas put forth by Frost in "Mending Wall". The US-Canada border comes to mind. There's no literal wall, of course, but the metaphorical one seems to su

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Evacuation > On 2005 Sep 25, Dan Feldstein and Matt Stiles in The Houston > Chronicle > wrote > >http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3369453 > >

Re: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert J. Chassell wrote: (My hunch is that the last notion will fade; but that people will find the first three or four useful for centuries to come, just as Newton's Laws are useful when considering planets, and Aristotle's useful when moving heavy stones. By the way, speaking in defense of A

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Sep 26, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: I witnessed someone drink over half a bottle of tequila in the course of less than an hour. He came close to dying of alcohol poisoning later that night Good non-god! That's nowhere near as badly as I did it; tha

Re: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Well, being Darwinism is not a "law" ( merely speculations by the "visually impaired" leading the "visually impaired") Actually, we speak of Newton's ideas as Newton's Laws even though we know they are wrong by experiment and theory. Darwin's ideas are likely less wrong, and have been pro

Re: or ....Something REALLY different / was: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread bemmzim
-Original Message- From: Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion Sent: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:29:17 +0100 Subject: Re: or Something REALLY different / was: Brave New Genetic Frontiers Warren said: > ALL trilobites were killed off in the Cambrian extinction, a

Re: or ....Something REALLY different / was: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread bemmzim
The secret ingredient appears to have been sex. Asexual reproduction, in addition to being rather boring, doesn't introduce anywhere near the possibility for diversification of a genome like sex does. So somewhere around 700 to 1000 million years ago, life discovered this new way to do thin

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: I witnessed someone drink over half a bottle of tequila in the course of less than an hour. He came close to dying of alcohol poisoning later that night Good non-god! That's nowhere near as badly as I did it; that's just plain nuts. S

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Dave Land wrote: Hmm, maybe those dolphins aren't missing. Maybe they've spirited the munitions away to some kind of underwater research facility where, assisted by waldoes, they're busily reverse-engineering the devices. It was bad enough when we were using dolph

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Warren Ockrassa wrote: I still can't take much tequila. In my college days I way, *way* overdid it with some cheap stuff one night, and to this day the slightly oily texture remains with me when I think about it. That's OK; it taught me to be more moderate with other things, such as Guinness,

Re: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread bemmzim
-Original Message- From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion Sent: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:33:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Brave New Genetic Frontiers On Sep 25, 2005, at 4:12 PM, Leonard Matusik wrote: > How about this question... How probable would it be to artificially

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 26, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Sep 26, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Dave Land quoted: Experts who have studied the US navy's cetacean training exercises claim the 36 mammals could be carrying 'toxic dart' guns. Divers and surfers risk attack, they claim, from a speci

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Dave Land quoted: Experts who have studied the US navy's cetacean training exercises claim the 36 mammals could be carrying 'toxic dart' guns. Divers and surfers risk attack, they claim, from a species considered to be among the planet's smartest. I

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:18 PM Monday 9/26/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: Can we say anything about Uplift + Margarita? For some integer n>0, it becomes difficult to successfully uplift the nth Margarita to the mouth without spilling it.

Re: or ....Something REALLY different / was: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 26, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Richard Baker wrote: Warren said: ALL trilobites were killed off in the Cambrian extinction, about 500 MY ago. This is not true. As Leonard said, the trilobites were wiped out by the end-Permian mass extinction. An excellent account of the evolutionary history

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:18 PM Monday 9/26/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: Can we say anything about Uplift + Margarita? For some integer n>0, it becomes difficult to successfully uplift the nth Margarita to the mouth without spilling it. I think n varies from person to person. n is no

RE: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Folks, Only Brin fans would grasp the true nature of the following story from the Guardian: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/ 0,6903,1577753,00.html http://tinyurl.com/89xhk "Armed and dangerous - Flipper the firing dolphin le

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:18 PM Monday 9/26/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: Can we say anything about Uplift + Margarita? For some integer n>0, it becomes difficult to successfully uplift the nth Margarita to the mouth without spilling it. --Ronn! :) "Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our c

Re: or ....Something REALLY different / was: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread Richard Baker
Warren said: ALL trilobites were killed off in the Cambrian extinction, about 500 MY ago. This is not true. As Leonard said, the trilobites were wiped out by the end-Permian mass extinction. An excellent account of the evolutionary history of trilobites can be found in Richard Fortey's

Re: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Can we say anything about Uplift + Margarita? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > Had Federal authorities ordered an > evacuation of N.O. and Katrina > weakened or the levees held, the same > people who have been raking the > Bush administration over the coals for > their slow response would probably be > doing the same thing for ordering a > wastef

Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Only Brin fans would grasp the true nature of the following story from the Guardian: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/ 0,6903,1577753,00.html http://tinyurl.com/89xhk "Armed and dangerous - Flipper the firing dolphin let loose by Katrina" It may be th

Re: Contraflow info

2005-09-26 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 26, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Horn, John wrote: Behalf Of Russell Chapman http://www.g-cans.jp/intro/07photo/ Wierd that a city that sits on an earthquake fault line uses this sort of design for flood mitigation. I guess that's a product of how critical their land use is - the land must b

Re: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-26 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 9/24/05, Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Leonard said: > > > How can blind cave fish could result purely from random mutations > > (among several sub species no less)? I believe that several billion > > tetras must have been sucked into Mexican caves in order for > > "random mutatio

RE: Contraflow info

2005-09-26 Thread Horn, John
> Behalf Of Russell Chapman > > > > http://www.g-cans.jp/intro/07photo/ > > > Wierd that a city that sits on an earthquake fault line uses > this sort > of design for flood mitigation. I guess that's a product of > how critical > their land use is - the land must be valued so high that any

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Julia Thompson
PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TV cop Barretta used to say "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." I feel the same way about taking on the responsibility of being President, head of FEMA, Governor or Mayor: "Don't take the job if you can't take the flack." Of cour

Re: Evacuation and government

2005-09-26 Thread Robert J. Chassell
As far as I can see, there are three responses to the notion that governments should be involved in dealing with disasters. 1. `Government is the problem' The thesis is that governments will fail to act or will act confusedly. In particular, this notion means that people must depend

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: It's not possible to be a public figure *and* clear of criticism. And here we have a President who prides himself on *not* reading, who claims that "nobody could have expected the levees to fail" or som

Re: Emergency highway use & terrorism

2005-09-26 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's startling to travel over *any* portion of US 66 and imagine how it must have been to drive it when it was new. And how damned terrifying it must have been to get passed in the opposing lane by a massive truck … especially given the lack of seat

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Robert J. Chassell
On 2005 Sep 25, Dan Feldstein and Matt Stiles in The Houston Chronicle wrote http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3369453 ... the regional evacuation plan was missing a key element -- pre-planned contraflow lanes ... because ... Houston's freeway grid is much more comp

RE: Emergency highway use & terrorism

2005-09-26 Thread Gary Nunn
>Oil is too cheap. It should cost much more. > >Alberto Monteiro High oil prices will turn out to be the proverbial double edge sword for oil companies. With prices going higher, the search and perfection of alternate fuel sources will be made a greater priority. Let's see how oil prices go

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:34 AM Monday 9/26/2005, Dave Land wrote: TV cop Barretta used to say "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." And we all know how ironic that came to sound . . . --Ronn! :) "Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:17 AM Monday 9/26/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Sep 25, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:18:56 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, just that some people won't be satisfied no matter what happens. Should we be satisfied with the leade