"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Well, my mom seems to have a trouble with new things. She has a far
> different
> way of looking at things, and when I try to explain them, she keeps on asking
> questions that don't lead to understanding.
> She isn't stupid, but at 88 she doesn't adap
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From: John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Ronn! Blankenship
>
> > Whether I am aware of it is less the point than whether little old
> > ladies living alone on Social Security need something else technical
> > to bother with.
>
> So, y
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> it is not a question of putting
> a foreign worker out of a job. there is no reason why their government can
> not
> generate a strong economy to employ their own workers, especially in nations
> that are wealthy in natural resources.
What exactly did
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> you tell me, john,
I already did. You believe that the amount you own is okay, but people may not
own more than you. You believe that the way to allocate resources is for
everyone
to ask you if it is okay, since you obviously know what everyone else should d
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Rceeberger wrote:
>
> On 9/10/2008 9:09:27 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote:
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ronn! Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
>>> Sent: Wednesday, Septe
> > by regulating profit gouging and excessive greed, etc.
> And what exactly constitutes profit gouging and
> "excessive" greed, and how do you propose to regulate it?
> What gives you the right to bar consenting
> parties from making a deal? How do you know
> what constitutes a fair price, an
On 9/10/2008 9:09:27 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote:
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ronn! Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM
> > Subject: 08:00 UTC
>
> > > you can not assume that all "consensual
> deals" are "fair", and should be
> > allowed without any regulation.
> > Jon
> > Yes, I can. If it is legal and consensual, then you
> have no right to impose
> > your opinions on others.
> That begs the question of what should be legal, so it is
>
> > Perhaps you didn't understand. "Begging the
> question" is a logical problem
> > with an argument.
> Perhaps. Or perhaps it begs the question, why do you think
> your opinion is
> more useful than the law and consensual agreement between
> others, your highness?
sigh, you just don't get it,
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> At 07:13 AM Wednesday 9/10/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
>
>
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>>
>>> 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
>>>
>>>
>>> Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru
>>
>> Meter to let yo
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ronn! Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM
> Subject: 08:00 UTC
>
>
>> 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
>>
>
> I'l
Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It's certainly something I'd want to know about (and returns on the
> voucher? No, not allowed so sorry) given that there are $50-60 boxes
> which give a perfectly good image output.
Sure, I'd certainly pay $10 or $20 for a better box. Which model would yo
On 10 Sep 2008 at 18:47, John Williams wrote:
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>
> Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Yes, and you get what you pay for - in reviews, that box scored
> > considerably lower than analogue TV.
>
> Yeah, don't you hate it when free things are of poor quality? I always
> demand my money
Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Yes, and you get what you pay for - in reviews, that box scored
> considerably lower than analogue TV.
Yeah, don't you hate it when free things are of poor quality? I always
demand my money back.
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On 10 Sep 2008 at 10:03, John Williams wrote:
> Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > Is it digital-ready? As I've mentioned before,
> > one way of looking at that is as a way that the
> > manufacturers of the equipment and the providers
> > of programming have come up with to get so
Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Whether I am aware of it is less the point than whether little old
> ladies living alone on Social Security need something else technical
> to bother with.
So, you think elderly women are too stupid to plug in a cable and a
power cord? Good thing they h
At 07:01 PM Wednesday 9/10/2008, xponentrob wrote:
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ronn! Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM
>Subject: 08:00 UTC
>
>
> > 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
> >
>
At 07:13 AM Wednesday 9/10/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>
> > 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
> >
> >
> > Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru
>
>Meter to let you know what the status of Earth is:
>
>http://www.hasthelhc
At 05:35 PM Wednesday 9/10/2008, John Williams wrote:
>Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Feel free to return to whatever you were doing before I jumped in.
>
>Thank you, your highness!
O-kay. Maybe it's time for everyone to take a few deep relaxing
breaths . . . ?
Put The Mouse Down S
At 12:03 PM Wednesday 9/10/2008, John Williams wrote:
>Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > Is it digital-ready? As I've mentioned before,
> > one way of looking at that is as a way that the
> > manufacturers of the equipment and the providers
> > of programming have come up with to get s
- Original Message -
From: "Ronn! Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM
Subject: 08:00 UTC
> 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
>
I'll get back to you after Saturday...
Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Feel free to return to whatever you were doing before I jumped in.
Thank you, your highness!
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On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Perhaps you didn't understand. "Begging the question" is a logical
> problem
> > with an argument.
>
> Perhaps. Or perhaps it begs the question, why do you think your opinion is
>
Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Perhaps you didn't understand. "Begging the question" is a logical problem
> with an argument.
Perhaps. Or perhaps it begs the question, why do you think your opinion is
more useful than the law and consensual agreement between others, your
highness?
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I've often puzzled that the word "disillusioned" means a bad thing:
> would you rather remain "illusioned"?
Dis illusion, dat illusion... perhaps one is as good as the next.
Nick
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On Sep 10, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Ronn! Blankenship <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
>>
>> Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru
>
> As long as it is the same illusion, I'm satisfied.
>
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:32 PM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>
> Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > That begs the question of what should be legal, so it is not a useful
> > argument.
>
> Rigghhht. So much less useful than it should be whatever you say it
> should
> be, your h
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:36 PM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > you can not assume that all "consensual deals" are "fair", and should be
> allowed
> > without any regulation.
>
> Yes, I can. If it is legal and consensual, then you have no rig
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> you can not assume that all "consensual deals" are "fair", and should be
> allowed
> without any regulation.
Yes, I can. If it is legal and consensual, then you have no right to impose your
opinions on others.
> exploit resources and labor in
> undevelop
>As you read the answers, try to imagine the questions.
Since we've had the discussion, more than once, here about what constitutes
science fiction, or "good" science fiction, I think RAH's definition (quoted in
the form letter) is a fine one: Stories that would cease to exist is elements
invo
> > how does the free market allocate resources and cash returns?
> The free market does not "allocate" cash returns.
> The free market
> allocates resources (for details, please study basic
> economics).
> Cash returns are the outcome of an investment. In simple
> terms, the
> return on invest
According to Kevin Kelly, Heinlein used a form letter to answer fan mail.
Kelly reproduces it here:
http://kk.org/ct2/2008/09/heinleins-fan-mail-solution.php
As you read the answers, try to imagine the questions.
AMF Maru
john
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> Is it digital-ready?
i dunno, i have to have cable to get reception, though.
> It's nice that you do that voluntarily to
> conserve resources, but what about those of us
> who have had to do many of those things for years
> because of the economy, which continues to get
> worse?
i ch
> > Because that's what I hear when I read that the
> free market is *the* way.
> > But you have backed off from the definite. ;-)
> Backed off? The discussion you referenced was about how
> I (or Jon, or someone else) would choose to allocate
> resources. _The_
> way _I_ would do it is a free
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over nine
years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set
up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established
a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat
technologies, and even casts of regulars over th
John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>(I think the deal may be over now,
> but you can check with a web search). I remember at one
> point there was a converter box that sold for $40, so with
> the rebate people could get the box for no out-of-pocket
> cost.
The rebate is still available.
https
Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Is it digital-ready? As I've mentioned before,
> one way of looking at that is as a way that the
> manufacturers of the equipment and the providers
> of programming have come up with to get some more
> money out of those who have been living too long
Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Because that's what I hear when I read that the free market is *the* way.
> But you have backed off from the definite. ;-)
Backed off? The discussion you referenced was about how
I (or Jon, or someone else) would choose to allocate resources. _The_
way _I_ wo
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:09 AM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > *The" way? Or *a* way?
>
> A way. The best way I've seen. But if you know of a better way,
> I'd certainly be interested.
>
> > There is no objective measure for appropriat
Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *The" way? Or *a* way?
A way. The best way I've seen. But if you know of a better way,
I'd certainly be interested.
> Surely it is generally accepted that the free market fails sometimes.
Surely. How could an emergent system be perfect?
> Otherwise we would
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:04 PM, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> The free market is the way to efficiently allocate resources, and cash
> returns
> provide a measure of the desirability of the project. You disagreed, but
> have
> still not offered an alternative.
*The" way? Or *a* w
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Ronn! Blankenship <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
>
>
> Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru
As long as it is the same illusion, I'm satisfied.
I'm not ready for a new one.
Nick
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
>
>
> Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru
Meter to let you know what the status of Earth is:
http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/
Julia
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OMG... Brazil may have a Kosovo/Ossetia/Abkhazia just at its
borders... :-(
Alberto Monteiro
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Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>
> 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
>
Damn! If I had known the world would finish today,
I wouldn't have woken up so early!
BTW, wasn't this monster supposed to be started on 2000-01-01? And
they avoided that mystical date due to fear of
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
>
>> How much carbon is released into the atmosphere from a
>> cremation?
>
> Ah, so you got the context, but you missed the irony!~)
> Unfortunately I don't know the answer, but I expect it is more
> energy efficient than cryonics, or to bury bodies in expensive
> caske
30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . .
Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru
. . . ronn! :)
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At 02:22 PM Tuesday 9/9/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
>[snip for brevity]
>
>Sarcasm is the lingua franca of the internet, John.
As I noted a few hours ago on another list, on
one of the lists I am on there is one prolific
poster who frequently claims that he speaks
sarcasm as a second languag
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