of
the US by a currently inconceivable threat (alien
invasion!) in which case most people would, I think,
be in favor of one anyways.
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county according to the vote shares. Note just how
purple the country looks.
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Interesting. So do you think we have the numbers we
need to win the
peace? The war is becoming very unpopular in the
UK, what if they pull
out? I guess what
is atrocious) because while the Army and
Marines are certainly stretched to their limit, the
Navy is not, and any engagement with China over Taiwan
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be persuated that it's
actually a good newspaper.
At least, that's what happened to me.
Julia
Would you care to be more specific? I understand if
you don't, of course, but I'm not sure if you're
writing ambiguously here on purpose or not...
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the one who
understands that we have real enemies and need to
protect ourselves from them, instead of adopting the
posture of the ostrich and pretending that the problem
is people who are willing to stand up to evil instead
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it's worth challenging bad ones. I would ask you
what's your particular resistance to supporting ideas
with evidence from the real world, not just speculation?
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in the Spring of 1998 - details are in their textbook
called, I believe, _The New American Democracy_).
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over the last few
years. It's sad, actually.
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wanted to put things this clearly on the list to see
the reaction before I chimed in with my own ideas.
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since there has been a high turnout election
with the population growth since that time, and hey,
there you go.
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It seems basically over at this point - but apparently
the Kerry campaign is going to hang on. Of all the
possible outcomes, this was not one that crossed my mind.
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morning. This with more
confidence than my actual pick for the victory.
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large enough to matter in this one? Quite possibly.
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is to repudiate the very
cause that they fought for. Surely you don't mean
what you just wrote.
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Indeed. Do you know how prosecutors respond to this
sort of
observation? It seems so over the top outrageous
that it couldn't
stand... or am I being too naive?
Too naive, I think :-) I don't believe that anyone in
living
. Also there was a newspaper headline that
read, Democrats Rally for Kerry, Weed.
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on the voter rolls. Absentee ballots also have a
pretty high rate of fraud, I believe. In either case
I don't think the first time voter rule would help,
although I may be misunderstanding what you and Nick
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, then there's no tactic
that's not allowed. So why not make claims that are
absurd on their face. You might just get away with
them, and besides, you're the good guys, right?
I'm done here.
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, if they keep putting up 7-8 runs a
game, that buys you a _lot_ of bad defense.
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if *the Sox* win I get to be a participant in the
largest single
party in human history
No question. But I wonder, what will it do to the
Boston psyche to no longer have that put-upon, woe
is me I'm a Sawks fan thing
that was a friendly act at all. Your
explanation in the post I'm replying to helped a bit,
I guess, but it seems to me that the very bare minimum
that I'm suggesting isn't much to ask for.
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pretty
obvious that you can't. Do you think I wouldn't even
notice? I await your standard response with bated
breath. Will I be deranged or stupid this time?
Maybe you'll be more creative in your insults? That
would be refreshing, at least.
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and humble attitudes
are admirable. As the foundation of a policy to
confront terrorists who wish to blow up our cities,
they are alarming.
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be a lot easier...
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Another way to ask the question might be this, Dr.
Brin. The person I know who has come closest to
convincing me to vote for President Bush is you. Does
that mean that you're on their payroll as well?
That's a heck of a conspiracy :-)
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It's too bad that they couldn't have done that
during the Dark Ages, when
it was knight time, even during the day.
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What worries me is that, given Dan's spelling history,
I'm not clear if this pun was intentional or not :-)
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If you want to join us, it's always open.
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There are _high schoolers_ who could make plays that
these guys are botching. I mean, really, what the hell?
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What the ((* is going on with the Red Sox
defense
More importantly, how do you give a team *five* outs
in an inning and still manage to get out of that
inning without giving up some runs? Schilling is
amazing
this paragraph alone, simply are not trying.
I will not
Make sense? Be civil? Try to prove your points?
Because you certainly couldn't do what you're
challenging other people to do.
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postseason efforts have occasionally all but
ended the careers of pitchers (Orel Herschiser comes
to mind).
Jim
In general I am religious about protecting the health
of pitchers. In this case, I would say, though:
Flags fly forever. Glory never dies. Go Sox!!!
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we'll still have to
win at least ONE in Boston...
- jmh
Sorry, John, but as I just told JDG offlist, apart
from my normal affection for them, if they win I get
to be a participant in the largest single party in
human history, and I'm _really_ looking forward to that...
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conflict can
be overcome by more tolerance and examining of our
own faults
I'm not even sure they are liberal principles... ;-)
I'm not aware of a political theory or religion that
subscribes to them.
Nick
I snipped
looking hopelessly hypocritical.
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mommy, help me, they're questioning my patriotism.
But if you say, well, people who disagree with me are
un-American. that's fine. Well sauce for the goose is
sauce for the gander.
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What the ((* is going on with the Red Sox
defense
There are _high schoolers_ who could make plays
that
these guys are botching. I mean, really, what the
hell?
Yeah. Sheesh!
The totally insane thing
will publish columns actually
praising. There truly is no better reason for voting
for George Bush than that it would apall people like
this.
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nonetheless remain bad people who are not my friends.
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rhetoric now given free reign in the US, it wouldn't
stun me if some Moveon.org type did try something if
the President were reelected) do you think this guy
would do anything but celebrate?
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when David Ortiz is batting?
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, The continent that produced both
Hitler _and_ Stalin should be a little more humble.
I didn't say I'm voting for Bush because of it, but
the fact that these people oppose Bush is a point in
his favor. It may not be an _important_ point, but
it's a point nonetheless.
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the way that the Reserves are treated,
etc. but all felt that no matter the nature of those
complaints, those Reservists engaged in mutiny, plain
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(and, for that matter, the American
Nazi Party) are, I'm sure, all opposing George Bush as
well. Are you going to tell us how important that is
as well? That's a fairly equivalent group to
Buchanan's ethnic nationalism. Not good company for you.
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), and Andrew Jackson in both the
Revolutionary War and the War of 1812, and George
Washington, the first of them all, First in war,
first in peace, and first in the hearts of his
countrymen. That was before the Republican Party was
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or any other such stuff. Otherwise
you have to explain why Derek Jeter, who previously
was the master of clutch hitting and rising to the
occasion in the postseason, managed to stink up the
joint this year...
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was clearly done. I
can't even imagine the pain tolerance it took to get
through the 7th the way he did. Win or lose tonight,
this Red Sox team deserves to go down in legends.
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it.
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very public
support of Pakistan, which is necessary to our
interests but likely to be irritating (to put it
mildly) to an Indian public that doesn't see all the
things going on behind the scenes to try to mitigate
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has any principles
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Bush Admin guys renew their
passports.
Well, Dr. Brin, if you had power in the Kerry
Administration that might well be true, but somehow I
don't think the odds of that are too high in the real
world. Would you care to make a wager on it?
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and on the list if Cheney had said something like that.
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further his own ambitions at the cost of creating
false hope for the disabled. It's nothing short of vile.
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opinion in. How about 10%
of the Cabinet members or 10% of their direct
reports? Would you agree
this is significant, Gautam, David?
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President Bush knew about 9/11 before it happened.
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there will be? Of
course not. There may be. I hope that there will.
But that fact surely aggravates the sin of a Vice
Presidential candidate promising that people will get
out of their wheelchairs and walk, if only you vote
for him. What the hell is wrong with these people?
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Ah, but I was talking about the public perception.
The IFS view is
certainly more pro-Bush. The politicos and the media
are more or less
evenly divided between these two views. The army
subscribes to neither,
refusing to believe
carefully
calibrated to alientate the military. Except maybe
Wes Clark, actually, but other than him.
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in Kerry's
case, it's a combination of politics and personality.
In Clark's case, I don't think they _cared_ about his
politics, they just knew the guy.
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are Republicans (that is
a fact). For someone who has abruptly adopted a
veneration for everyone in the military, I would think
that this is a fact that you need to deal with. As I
am occassionally moved to point out, you don't get to
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_love_ the sort of thinking that leads you to a
security guard is likely a Republican, by the way.
OopsssI screwed up the editing here. Dr. Brin did
_not_ say the above that's in quotes. Damnit. I
should have reread more carefully before I
about Bush I become _much_ more likely to
vote for Bush. If you have that effect on someone so
in the middle of the political spectrum that 2 weeks
before the election they haven't picked a side yet,
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, then the next time somebody kills a few thousand
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when France, Russia, and China doesn't give a response
their seal of approval (and they won't)?
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, not Bush, is in hock to
interests that are fundamentally antagonistic to the
welfare of the US. So if the most important thing is
who has influence over your actions, them I'm not sure
whose side that should bring me or any other undecided
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showing his intellectual
honesty and willingness to speak the truth as he
sees it, no matter how
inconvenient that is. That certainly hurts his
chances at a career in
politicseven though it is a
a different story...
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way off in 2002...his methodology is, I believe, not
highly thought of in the field.
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state's votes but forgot to say
who that he cast them _for_.
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this sort of counts as
evidence as well. Any sort of a credible assessment
of the war has to include both negatives (which I've
talked about on this list) and positives (Libya giving
up WMD, increased efforts at reform in Saudi Arabia,
significant encouragement to reformers in Iran).
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sworn in. It's not happening, because it's not
possible. There's no one out there who has the
ability to do what he promises, whether or not he
speaks French.
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distracted, so I'm certainly not as informed as
I'd like to be. We won't really know until about 72
hours after the debate, when the first round of
spinning is over.
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Democrats? This is why. Among many
reasons, this is a pretty good one.
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--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's too late for Gautam's request, but Brad DeLong
wrote an insightful
article about offshoring yesterday:
It's not, actually. My panel's on Saturday. Thanks
for the article.
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