Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-05-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had posted this before: DDT was not banned. > > http://www.malaria.org/inthenews.html > > There was a proposal to ban it entirely in December, > it failed becuase > of the poor countries who still use it for malaria > control. > > Why use DDT? It ca

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-05-11 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 11 May 2004 13:37:09 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I > > think I'm being fair in paraphrasing her concluding > > thought by saying that she suggests that in the

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-05-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, Yahoo is truncating messages again, so I can't > quote Debbi. Damn. We appear to agree that the > charges against the Bush Administration about > mercury have been vastly exaggerated. I'd disagree

RE: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-25 Thread Mike Lee
Eric, wiff his feewwings hurt: > > But not all disagreements are worthy of respect. > > Understood. People disagreeing with you must respect you, but > you don't have to respect people you disagree with. Crystal clear. No, Eric, the crystal clear point is that when you get stupid enough, we don

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:42:37PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > No, I admit I left it Gautam to do that. No, you didn't. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day > On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:41:25PM

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:41:25PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > or support killing is acting morally. If so, then Gautam would > clearly allow that a reasonable person could consider some of his > views immoral...even though he has a different means of applying > morality than they do. Hmm, still

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do feel that way. I have no doubt that Gandhi > (for > example) would say that my support of violent > intervention to stop mass killings (in Iraq, but > also, > for example, in Rwanda) is actively immoral. Thomas > Jefferson, to pick another exam

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reading your post this way, you appear to miss his > point. His complaint > was about people who put virtually everyone they > disagree with in the > immoral category. The complaint was not that > liberals thought some > conservatives, like Lott, were

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day > On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 12:26:23PM -0

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 12:26:23PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > Yet, he has also clearly stated that there are some people that he feels > hold an immoral position that he disagrees with. Thus, the reasonable > hypothesis is that he respects some, but not all, of the people he > disagrees with. Eh

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day >> Erik wrote >>> Understoo

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:05:07AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > There is considerable empirical evidence both in his response and in > past series of posts that contradict this assertion. Why do you make > it? Huh? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day > On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 06:52:49AM -0

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 06:52:49AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > Look Erik, this isn't actually that hard. Right, double standards make things quite easy. > But not all disagreements are worthy of respect. Understood. People disagreeing with you must respect you, but you don't have to respect

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:52 AM 4/23/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you think the blindness of millions of kids is > worth stopping some > > unspecified and very small risk that genetically > engineered rice might > > in some way harm someone, then you're into a > morally i

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you think the blindness of millions of kids is > worth stopping some > > unspecified and very small risk that genetically > engineered rice might > > in some way harm someone, then you're into a > morally insupportable > > position. > > You're stil

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 05:02:57AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > --- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As long as it doesn't strike to close to home, they can disagree. > > But if it feels too personal, then they are evil. > > I don't think so, no. "Golden rice" doesn't strike particul

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:53:02PM -0700, Gautam > Mukunda wrote: > Sounds like you are attributing malevolence to them. > Maybe they honestly > disagree with you? Perhaps they feel that they are > saving billions of > lives (the human race) sometime in

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:53:02PM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > They died because environmental activists _didn't care_, and they won > the argument, against all reason and evidence. > There are any number of other examples. Golden rice. Genetically > engineered food crops in Africa. That wa

Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-22 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, Yahoo is truncating messages again, so I can't quote Debbi. Damn. We appear to agree that the charges against the Bush Administration about mercury have been vastly exaggerated. What does it say, btw, that with absolutely no knowledge of the iss

[L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-04-22 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gautam: this administration's proposed alterations > > to the Clean Air Act allow increased mercury > >emissions, yet guidelines for consumption of > mercury-containing > > fish (such as tuna) by pregnan