Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-25 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:48 PM Friday 4/25/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: >On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > > The ballyhoo sort of brings to mind this verse from the Sermon on > the Mount: > > > > "But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou > > hast shut thy door, pray to thy F

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-25 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:48 PM Friday 4/25/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: >On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > > The ballyhoo sort of brings to mind this verse from the Sermon on > the Mount: > > > > "But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou > > hast shut thy door, pray to thy F

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-25 Thread Julia Thompson
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > The ballyhoo sort of brings to mind this verse from the Sermon on the Mount: > > "But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou > hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy > Father which seeth in secret

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:15 AM Friday 4/25/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: >On 25/04/2008, at 10:41 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > At 12:24 AM Friday 4/25/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: > > > >> You don't see that much of atheists rallying round > >> the oppressed religious (except possibly when atheists and minority > >> re

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/04/2008, at 10:41 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 12:24 AM Friday 4/25/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: > >> You don't see that much of atheists rallying round >> the oppressed religious (except possibly when atheists and minority >> religious like wiccans or Muslims are trying to get equal treat

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 12:24 AM Friday 4/25/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: >You don't see that much of atheists rallying round >the oppressed religious (except possibly when atheists and minority >religious like wiccans or Muslims are trying to get equal treatment to >the Xian majority), because there just aren't that man

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/04/2008, at 2:46 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > >> >>> Sounds like the school district is not allowing religion to be an >>> excuse for >>> inappropriate teaching. >> >> Um. *blink* I'm talking about the school kids and parents supporting >> the teacher's bad (and, um, probably criminal) behaviour

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-24 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sounds like the school district is not allowing religion to be an > > excuse for > > inappropriate teaching. > > Um. *blink* I'm talking about the school kids and parents supporting > the teacher's bad (and, um, probabl

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-24 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 22 Apr 2008 at 8:38, Nick Arnett wrote: > As David Brin observed in "The Transparent Society," research has shown that > self-righteous people are high on endorphins. And romantic love is biochemically indistinguishable from severe obsessive-compulsive disorder. Andrew Dawn Falcon _

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/04/2008, at 3:51 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Charlie Bell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> >> "On Monday, Middle School Principal William D. White told Freshwater >> to remove "all religious items" from his classroom by the end of >> Wednesday." >> > > Sou

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-23 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "On Monday, Middle School Principal William D. White told Freshwater > to remove "all religious items" from his classroom by the end of > Wednesday." > Sounds like the school district is not allowing religion to be an e

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/04/2008, at 1:25 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > >>> Otherwise, they would have to account for religious that >>> successfully teach >>> and encourage humility, grace, forgiveness, critical thinking and so >>> forth... >> >> Who are, on the whole, in the minority. Your experience of the >> religiou

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-23 Thread William T Goodall
On 23 Apr 2008, at 09:07, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 06:07 PM Tuesday 4/22/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: > >> It seems to me you're missing the point, which is that all number of >> damaging behaviour is excused in the name of religion when it is >> otherwise not tolerated. Of *course* these thing

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-23 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 22, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > 2008/4/22 Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> No. > > And that settles it? > > Er... "No" *what*? > > Know what? I took it to be a terse answer to the question posed in the subject: No, religion is not a threat to rationality and science.

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-23 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 03:07 AM Wednesday 4/23/2008, I wrote: >At 06:07 PM Tuesday 4/22/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: > >>It seems to me you're missing the point, which is that all number of >>damaging behaviour is excused in the name of religion when it is >>otherwise not tolerated. Of *course* these things aren't exclus

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-23 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:07 PM Tuesday 4/22/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: >It seems to me you're missing the point, which is that all number of >damaging behaviour is excused in the name of religion when it is >otherwise not tolerated. Of *course* these things aren't exclusive to >religion (as you rightly point out, pol

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-23 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:26 PM Tuesday 4/22/2008, Nick Arnett wrote: >2008/4/22 Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > No. > > > >And that settles it? Would you prefer "Yes."? The Form Of The Question Suggests That The Answer Is Limited To Binary Choices Maru . . . ronn! :) ___

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-22 Thread Nick Arnett
2008/4/22 Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No. > And that settles it? Er... "No" *what*? Know what? Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-22 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 23/04/2008, at 1:38 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > > > > Otherwise, they would have to account for religious that > > successfully teach > > and encourage humility, grace, forgiveness, critical thinking and so > > forth... >

Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-22 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
No. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/04/2008, at 1:38 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > > Otherwise, they would have to account for religious that > successfully teach > and encourage humility, grace, forgiveness, critical thinking and so > forth... Who are, on the whole, in the minority. Your experience of the religious in your li

Re: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-22 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:45 AM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/3nv68p > > "Prof Daniel Dennett and Lord Winston present their arguments ahead of > tonight's public debate > Daniel Dennett and Robert Winston > Tuesday April 22, 2008 > Guardian > > Yes, says Prof

Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

2008-04-22 Thread William T Goodall
http://tinyurl.com/3nv68p "Prof Daniel Dennett and Lord Winston present their arguments ahead of tonight's public debate Daniel Dennett and Robert Winston Tuesday April 22, 2008 Guardian Yes, says Prof Daniel Dennett If religion isn't the greatest threat to rationality and scientific progress