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we see the report that "Saddam Hussein denied his al-Samoud 2 missiles
violated U.N. mandates and indicated he will resist demands to destroy
them." If he does, then that will change the chances for the US resolution
passing the Security Coun
At 10:34 PM 2/24/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote:
>At
>
>http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml
>
>we see the report that "Saddam Hussein denied his al-Samoud 2 missiles
>violated U.N. mandates and indicated he will resist demands to destroy
>them." If he does, then that will change the c
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From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for being stupid note
> Isn't one of the lessons
At 10:59 PM 2/24/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote:
>> Isn't one of the lessons of history to never underestimate Saddam
>Hussein's
>> tendency to overplay his hand?
>
>He's played a poor hand rather well for the last 11+ years.
He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
JDG
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml
>
> we see the report that "Saddam Hussein denied his
> al-Samoud 2 missiles
> violated U.N. mandates and indicated he will resist
> demands to destroy
> them." If he does, then that will chan
--- "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >He's played a poor hand rather well for the last
> 11+ years.
>
> He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
>
> JDG
I have to agree - he wasn't exactly competing against
the varsity, Dan.
Gautam
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
I have to agree - he wasn't exactly competing against
the varsity, Dan.
Hell ya. Now we've got the guy's who've mastered the "Ignore it and
maybe it will go away" foreign policy as illustrated in Israel and Korea.
First team baby! Go get um!
Doug
ROU And Throw in a Re
At 10:10 PM 2/24/2003 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
>Hell ya. Now we've got the guy's who've mastered the "Ignore it and
>maybe it will go away" foreign policy as illustrated in Israel and Korea.
Out of curiosity, what is your policy prescription for the situation in DPRK?
Please address in you
JDG wrote:
>
>> He's played a poor hand rather well for the last 11+ years.
>
> He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
>
I saw in TV when Clinton almost let the USA be destroyed by
an asian conspiracy, just because the asians told him that
they were harmless because they had small pe
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>
> JDG wrote:
> >
> >> He's played a poor hand rather well for the last 11+ years.
> >
> > He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
> >
> I saw in TV when Clinton almost let the USA be destroyed by
> an asian conspiracy, just because the asians told him that
>
Julia wrote:
I remember a sitcom where a guy had gotten a mid-life crisis car, a woman
borrowed it (wife? ex-wife? girlfriend?) and wrecked it, and he was saying
it was OK, and she believed him, and then he totally broke down later
explaining that it *wasn't* all right, and she should have known be
In a message dated 2/25/2003 12:00:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
This is an incredibly cheap shot. Clinton had no support at home or abroad for a
policy to confrount Iraq. And let us not forget that a president name
In a message dated 2/25/2003 12:00:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
This is an incredibly cheap shot. Clinton had no support at home or abroad for a
policy to confrount Iraq. And let us not forget that a president name
In a message dated 2/25/2003 1:07:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Out of curiosity, what is your policy prescription for the
> situation in DPRK?
Out of curiosity what would have been yourf policy prescription given the existant
situation for Clinton visa Iraq after Ge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:
This is an incredibly cheap shot. Clinton had no support at home or abroad
for a policy to confrount Iraq.
And even still, I wonder how much further Clinton would have gone in 1998 if
he di
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for DPRK, you say Clinton's policy failed but in fact Korea did stop its nuclear program for a time and it is the current circumstance some of it Bush's "Fault" that got those lunatics started again
Oh, but the name calling was entirely constructive, don't you think?
At 07:40 PM 2/25/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
>
>This is an incredibly cheap shot. Clinton had no support at home or abroad
> for a policy to confrount Iraq.
He never asked nor worked for such support.President George W. Bush has.
At 07:49 PM 2/25/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>As for DPRK, you say Clinton's policy failed but in fact Korea did stop
its nuclear program for a time and it is the current circumstance some of
it Bush's "Fault" that got those lunatics started again
>
This is false.According to *every* p
At 08:48 PM 2/25/2003 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
>Oh, but the name calling was entirely constructive, don't you think? I
>mean why bother with all that diplomacy stuff when you can publicly
>brand a nation as evil and be done with it? Now that's a foreign policy
>you can sink your teeth into.
--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, but the name calling was entirely constructive,
> don't you think? I
> mean why bother with all that diplomacy stuff when
> you can publicly
> brand a nation as evil and be done with it? Now
> that's a foreign policy
> you can sink your teeth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 2/25/2003 12:00:24 AM Eastern
> Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > He was playing against Clinton, what did you
> expect?
>
> This is an incredibly cheap shot. Clinton had no
> support at home or abroad for a policy to confrount
> Iraq
JDG wrote:
>
> Bush II - A unanimous vote in the UNSC to resume
> inspections or else Iraq will face "serious consequences."
> Debate shifts from whether or not to have inspections,
> to whether or not Iraq should be disarmed by force.
>
In other words, the question now is whether those
"
At 07:17 26-2-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
When Saddam Hussein attempted to assassinate George H.W. Bush, what was
Clinton's response? A cruise missile strike on Iraqi intelligence HQ,
_launched at night so that the building would be unoccupied_. What sort
of message did that send?
The m
Jeroen wrote:
As the song goes, "There's no use crying over spilled perfume".
Interesting. There's no such song in English (at least not that I'm aware
of), but there is a commonly used adage, "There's no use crying over spilled
milk."
Reggie Bautista
GSV Diversity Is Good
Mixing Milk and Perfu
--- "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> If at the time the US government believed they
> didn't have enough evidence
> to put Osama bin Laden on trial, then refusing the
> offer was a sensible
> approach. Why bother to have someone handed over to
> you, if you know you're
> going t
In a message dated 2/26/2003 8:47:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>
> He never asked nor worked for such support.President George W. Bush has.
And we know that Clinton did not attempt to get consent to keep pressure on Iraq how?
You are privy to the diplomatic effort
In a message dated 2/26/2003 8:47:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>
> He never asked nor worked for such support.President George W. Bush has.
And we know that Clinton did not attempt to get consent to keep pressure on Iraq how?
You are privy to the diplomatic effort
In a message dated 2/26/2003 8:47:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>
> He never asked nor worked for such support.President George W. Bush has.
And we know that Clinton did not attempt to get consent to keep pressure on Iraq how?
You are privy to the diplomatic effort
In a message dated 2/26/2003 8:47:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>
> He never asked nor worked for such support.President George W. Bush has.
And we know that Clinton did not attempt to get consent to keep pressure on Iraq how?
You are privy to the diplomatic effort
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:14:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> If you can't
> handle calling a spade a spade, that's not his
> problem. Injecting some moral clarity into the issue
> was a blessing, something that he learned from Reagan,
> I would guess.
But there is
Let me start with the first WTC bombing about which Clinton did nothing. Well we
caught the guys who did it. What were we to do next?
> We had enough evidence to know that he was launching
> terrorist attacks against the United States, and was
> planning on doing so again. We should, of course,
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Let me start with the first WTC bombing about which
> Clinton did nothing. Well we caught the guys who did
> it. What were we to do next?
They didn't act alone. They were supported by Bin
Laden, among many others. We should have been a _lot_
more aggressive in goi
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> As for the other stuff - Bush didn't try to get Israel
> to commit suicide, no, the only thing which could have
> placated the Palestinians. You're okay with that, I'm
> guessing. The rest of it - while
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> As for the other stuff - Bush didn't try to get Israel
> to commit suicide, no, the only thing which could have
> placated the Palestinians. You're okay with that, I'm
> guessing. The rest of it - while
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> He would, eventually, have admitted everything,
> certainly. I didn't suggest reading him his rights.
> If we couldn't get information out of him, well, the
> Israelis or the Egyptians could. We _did_ a
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> He would, eventually, have admitted everything,
> certainly. I didn't suggest reading him his rights.
> If we couldn't get information out of him, well, the
> Israelis or the Egyptians could. We _did_ a
> > > .
> > > Bob, get a grip. You know I like you, so I'm not
> saying this lightly. To go - very briefly - over the
> arsenic thing, the Bush Administration decided to
> _review_ a decision by the Clinton Administration to
> _decrease_ acceptable levels of arsenic below current
> levels, a de
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Just because you say he would have talked does not
> mean that this is true. Some people don't because
> they are fearless and committed. Do not mistake
> courage for morality. He is convinced he is morally
> correct and this could have given him courage. As
> for ca
At 08:47 AM 2/26/03 -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 07:40 PM 2/25/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> He was playing against Clinton, what did you expect?
>
>This is an incredibly cheap shot. Clinton had no support at home or abroad
> for a policy to confrount Iraq.
He never asked nor worked fo
At 11:59 PM 2/26/03 +0100, J. van Baardwijk wrote:
At 07:17 26-2-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
When Saddam Hussein attempted to assassinate George H.W. Bush, what was
Clinton's response? A cruise missile strike on Iraqi intelligence HQ,
_launched at night so that the building would be unocc
At 10:18 PM 2/27/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>For my part I think we should care about the rest of the world for
>completely selfish reasons. We need the rest of the world to buy our stuff.
The beauty of trade is that if the above statement is true, then it also
means that the rest of th
At 10:40 PM 2/27/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As I remember some of the post attack testimony Bush actually cut funds
> for some antiterrosist activities.
This is serious rumour and innuendo that should be backed up and documented
before stating.
>When did he order it and why did it ta
In a message dated 2/28/2003 10:18:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> So, which results producing, quote, :"consensus", did you
> want again
John you cannot actually believe that the current adminstration has been building a
consensus. It has been buying and bullying othe
In a message dated 2/28/2003 10:18:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> So, which results producing, quote, :"consensus", did you
> want again
John you cannot actually believe that the current adminstration has been building a
consensus. It has been buying and bullying othe
In a message dated 2/28/2003 10:25:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Why Zim, you warmonger, you!
>
> I wish we had Brin-L archives back to 1991 to see if you
> were truly among
> that small minority that advocated pushing for Baghdad.
I am pretty sure I didn't comm
In a message dated 2/28/2003 10:25:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Nevertheless, I can't believe that you are criticizing Bush I for choosing
> the path of peace over the path of war.Iraq was defeated, it made a
> deal with us, and agreed to let in inspectors.Of c
At 22:25 28-2-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote:
> As I remember some of the post attack testimony Bush actually cut funds
> for some antiterrosist activities.
This is serious rumour and innuendo that should be backed up and documented
before stating.
When did you become so adament about backing up c
At 23:47 28-2-2003 -0500, Bob Zimmerman wrote:
> I wish we had Brin-L archives back to 1991 to see if you were truly
> among that small minority that advocated pushing for Baghdad.
I am pretty sure I didn't comment on this and in fact I doubt I was here
in 91.
You were in fact not subscribed to B
At 11:01 AM 2/26/2003 -0300 Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>In other words, the question now is whether those
>"serious consequences" are either a war, or the UNO
>telling Saddam that he is ugly and poos in his
>diapers?
>
>[I find it extremely hard to be a Jester with such
>mighty competitors in th
At 17:04 26-2-2003 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Jeroen wrote:
As the song goes, "There's no use crying over spilled perfume".
Interesting. There's no such song in English (at least not that I'm aware
of), but there is a commonly used adage, "There's no use crying over
spilled milk."
The song d
Jeroen wrote:
As the song goes, "There's no use crying over spilled perfume".
I replied:
Interesting. There's no such song in English (at least not that I'm aware
of), but there is a commonly used adage, "There's no use crying over
spilled milk."
Jeroen responded:
The song does exist, actually.
--- Reggie Bautista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like some country songs, and some country groups,
> but in general it's the
> kind of music I like least and listen to least
often.
>
> Reggie Bautista
> There's No Tear In My Beer Maru
I believe that's a reference to 'the ultimate country
s
I wrote:
> There's No Tear In My Beer Maru
Debbi replied:
I believe that's a reference to 'the ultimate country song,' and I think
the line is "There's tears in my ears from lying on my back crying over
you!"
Jeroen responded:
Fairly accurate. The exact line is:
I've got tears in my ears fro
--- "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Debbi Harrell wrote:
>
> > > There's No Tear In My Beer Maru
> >
> >
> >I believe that's a reference to 'the ultimate
> country song,' and I think
> >the line is "There's tears in my ears from lying on
> my back crying over you!"
>
> Fairly acc
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From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Spilled Perfume (was Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for
being stupid note)
> --- &
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From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Spilled Perfume (was Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for
being stupid note)
> --- &
--- Reggie Bautista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wrote:
> >> > There's No Tear In My Beer Maru
>
> Debbi replied:
> >>
> >>I believe that's a reference to 'the ultimate
> country song,' and I think
> >>the line is "There's tears in my ears from lying
> on my back crying over you!"
>
> Jeroen r
On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 08:42 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote:
"And it burns, burns, burns - the ring of fire, the
ring of fire!" [I had no idea that Johnny Cash was a
Tolkien fan... ;) ]
Too much chili.
--
William T Goodall
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Dan wrote:
The only country music I like is pre-Hank: Texas swing and older music like
that featured on "Oh Brother Where Art Thou."
Yeah, the "old-timey" music in _Oh Brother_ was great; mostly bluegrass,
but some stuff that really is more country than anything. I really haven't
heard much Tex
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only country music I like is pre-Hank: Texas
> swing and older music like
> that featured on "Oh Brother Where Art Thou."
That is a great soundtrack! I vaguely remember
something about someone going out and recording a lot
of 'old' country and bl
- Original Message -
From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Spilled Perfume (was Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for
being stupid note)
> --- Da
- Original Message -
From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: Spilled Perfume (was Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for
being stupid note)
> Dan wrote:
> >The only country
> From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The only country music I like is pre-Hank: Texas swing and
> older music like
> that featured on "Oh Brother Where Art Thou."
"Oh Brother" is more bluegrass than country, I believe. I'm not a huge
bluegrass fan but do like some (mostly the Dillard
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