Pratchett (was Re: The Gospel Of Judas)

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Sharkey
Max Battcher wrote: >Jim Sharkey wrote: >Pratchett also relies on his fans to keep all his continuity ducks >in a row, and he still can't always manage it either. :) >I personally love how he managed to blame it on his own characters >in Thief of Time. How can he be expected to keep continuity

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-19 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: Re: The Gospel Of Judas >> Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >From: "

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-19 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Max Battcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:31 PM Subject: Re: The Gospel Of Judas > Robert Seeberger wrote: >> In terms of morality and ethics *why* one chooses can be

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-19 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> "Robert G. Seeberger" wrote: > >> Was Judas a villain? > >> I don't think so myself. If one believes that > >> Christ was divine and > >> that God has a plan then Judas was just a part of > >> the pla

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-19 Thread Max Battcher
Jim Sharkey wrote: William T Goodall wrote: Two millennia of fanwankery hasn't managed to patch up those plot holes. Elephants on the back of a giant turtle makes more sense. True, and it's a lot funnier. Although Pratchett also relies on his fans to keep all his continuity ducks in a row, a

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-19 Thread Jim Sharkey
William T Goodall wrote: >Two millennia of fanwankery hasn't managed to patch up those plot >holes. Elephants on the back of a giant turtle makes more sense. True, and it's a lot funnier. Although Pratchett also relies on his fans to keep all his continuity ducks in a row, and he still can't

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Max Battcher
Robert Seeberger wrote: In terms of morality and ethics *why* one chooses can be more important than *what* one chooses. Yuck! I know you state "can be" and not the absolute "are", but you still are positing that "in some cases" "the ends justify the means" and worse "the intent justify the

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: Re: The Gospel Of Judas >> "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Apr 2006, at 12:56AM, Max Battcher wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 19/04/2006, at 12:53 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: But I have problems with the 'planned betrayal,' as this makes Judas a stool pigeon, and God an underhanded schemer. Indeed, it brings to mind the entire Garden bit as anot

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Max Battcher
Charlie Bell wrote: On 19/04/2006, at 12:53 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: But I have problems with the 'planned betrayal,' as this makes Judas a stool pigeon, and God an underhanded schemer. Indeed, it brings to mind the entire Garden bit as another planned betrayal. Precisely. It's yet more o

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/04/2006, at 12:53 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: But I have problems with the 'planned betrayal,' as this makes Judas a stool pigeon, and God an underhanded schemer. Indeed, it brings to mind the entire Garden bit as another planned betrayal. Precisely. It's yet more of why this "loving go

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
> "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was Judas a villain? > > I don't think so myself. If one believes that Christ > was divine and > that God has a plan then Judas was just a part of > the plan and cannot > be faulted for advancing the sacrifice. Indeed, > advancing the > sac

The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-17 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
This has been on my mind a bit lately. I read the news reports over the last couple of years and saw the NGEO documentary a couple of times over the last few weeks. Today I took a foray over to Pat Mathews blog and read what Pat thinks (http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/). I don't #strongly# dis