Once-and-future brineller Stefan Jones has forwarded the following
about dirty tricks and urges everyone to keep their eyes open.
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/breaking_news/10050609.htm
Stefan also says: "I hope the folks who think Bush was appointed by
God don't take a Kerry win to
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From: "d.brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:34 PM
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> Infinite because - despite Ashcroft's re
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From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:48 PM
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--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cisneros was indicted and pleaded guilty, David. I
> remember being mad at > him because he seemed to
have such promise. IIRC, > both the indictment and
> the plea was while Clinton was in office.
Yes, and I am guilty of a technical polemical
sophistr
--- David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And a backdoor draft, hauling husbands and fathers
> away from their families and jobs for a year+ -
> turning our reserves into a shambles.
..and wives and mothers, too. Plenty of women serving in our military
have had their tours extended.
-k-
--- kerri miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ..and wives and mothers, too. Plenty of women
> serving in our military
> have had their tours extended.
I blush at my sexism. Now I must drive my 10 year old
daughter to one of the final lessons before she tests
for her black belt... before the s
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From: "David Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:15 PM
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> overwhelming victory, another quagmire fightin
--- David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everybody, please remind friends in Ohio,
> Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, that their great
> grandfathers died at Antietem and Gettysburg,
> fighting
> for the half of the map that's blue.
I beg your pardon? As Abraham Lincoln said to General
M
--- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Doc, I want to impose upon you for a second to
> object to the
> description of the Iraq engagement as a "quagmire".
> IMO it is more accurate to describe Iraq as a "tar
> baby".
I see your point. But in fact, I perceive a pretty
good exit strate
--- Gautam
>Surely you don't mean
> what you just wrote.
You are right. As Eisenhower decided when he
nationalized the reserves in Mississippi, it is all
one nation and the red states are going to have to
rejoin the Union. We'll be gentle - as Lincoln
prescribed and as Martin Luther King sugges
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From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: some final notes about the aftermath
> --- David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
--- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Speaking as a homeboy in one of the reddest of the
> red states, I'll
> throw in with you Gautam.
> This is one nation, regardless of who leads it.
> Regardless of
> transient divisions.
> When I wake up on the third, all of you will still
> be my
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From: "David Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:11 PM
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> --- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECT
--- Dan,
I never said that all people in the south are
red-necks. Tomorrow, forty % + of them will be
disenfranchised. The 40% who can see and want a
modern world.
Of the majority, I am sure than many perceive
themselves as wonderful decent people... and they
probably tithe more charity than m
At 05:11 PM 11/1/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
>This is a civil war and we did not start it. We are
>fighting for the Union.
Its only a civil war if y'all decide to leave, Dr. Brin.
And, its only a civil war if your definition of democracy is one in which
only your side is allowed to winl
JDG
At 06:13 PM 11/1/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
>I never said that all people in the south are
>red-necks. Tomorrow, forty % + of them will be
>disenfranchised. The 40% who can see and want a
>modern world.
Disenfranchised???
>Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord...
--- JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, its only a civil war if your definition of
> democracy is one in which
> only your side is allowed to winl
Typical.
1) the side that stops at nothing - and is engaged in
ALL the rampant cheatin - calling this kettle black.
2) The side that was oppose
Robert Seeberger wrote:
> xponent
> Vote Ye Bloody Bastards! Maru
> rob
>
I did. Last week.
Now I, like a lot of my close friends, just want it all to be over.
I think I'm going to have a beer and watch some of the travesty that is
tonight's Monday Night Football game now
Julia
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From: "David Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: some final notes about the aftermath
>
> --- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 07:03 PM 11/1/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
>3) But above all, note the tactic. Attack me for
>bigotry for pointing to a map. But by all means
>IGNORE the main points of my message:
>
>That all the cheating in the news is one-sided
>That all the defections are one sided
>That we were promised i
Robert Seeberger wrote
> David Brin wrote :
>>
>> In any event, the map MEANS something, Robert.
>
>Shades of Close Encounters!
>
>
>
>> Look
>> at it. Whatever your dreams and mine, about a
>> tolerant America that is united in joyful, moderate
>> disagreement, look at it.
>
>Due to the natur
--- JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 07:03 PM 11/1/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
> >3) But above all, note the tactic. Attack me for
> >bigotry for pointing to a map. But by all means
> >IGNORE the main points of my message:
> >
> >That all the cheating in the news is one-sided
> >That all th
--- Ruben's right of course that my confederacy
metaphor is a stretch. A piece of disreputable
polemic for which I really oughta not be proud... but
I'm nevertheless unashamed.
In fact, the plains and rockies states were Dangeous
Ground for the Union during the Civil War. Troops and
governors k
On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:29 PM, David Brin wrote:
But no, it's all right. I am in a GREAT mood! We are
going to be able - tonight - to stand up before the
world and say that our government was illegally
hijacked by monsters in 2000. The last four years
were not America's fault. And we have proved i
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