Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-08-04 Thread Joe Theuerkauf
Quick correction: routes.php link is 404. Should be (i think): *https://github.com/cakephp/app/blob/master/config/routes.php* On Monday, 28 July 2014 03:13:14 UTC-4, José Lorenzo wrote: > > The CakePHP core team is proud to announce the immediate availability of > CakePHP > 3.0.0-alpha2

CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 Released

2014-08-04 Thread Nethues BD
New Features in 3.0.0-alpha2 Router Refactor and Builder Based APIs. The Router class has been re-factored internally and new methods have been added to allow your routes file to stay DRYer than ever before. In addition to improved methods, the performance of parsing incoming URLs has been gre

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-29 Thread José Lorenzo
Yeah, that's basically my point. We have no full page cache in our site and actually very limited use of caching in general, we can serve pages under 50ms and most of them under 100. On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:54:09 PM UTC+2, Thomas von Hassel wrote: > > If you use good caching of expensive da

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-29 Thread Thomas von Hassel
If you use good caching of expensive database requests, and offload static files to a CDN there is no need to bother with full page caching for most sites. Our CMS with warm caches can display a somewhat complicated page in about 100-200 ms ... /thomas On 29 Jul 2014, at 12:22, HK wrote: > W

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-29 Thread HK
Why isn't needed? Why do I have to bother the server with more proccessing? I have for example a (medium size) VPS with 40+ domains. Some of them use cakePHP, and hopefully more in the future. While each site is rather small (some with many pageviews though) all of them are hosted on the same se

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-29 Thread José Lorenzo
For those small sites, is having full page cache actually needed? I would guess that performance wouldn't be a big concern in those cases On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:47:16 AM UTC+2, HK wrote: > > For small sites that I develop is very helpful. The need to > use/configure/monitor extra software

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-29 Thread HK
For small sites that I develop is very helpful. The need to use/configure/monitor extra software like varnish is pain in the ass, especially if you don't have big sites to host. On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:28:17 AM UTC+3, José Lorenzo wrote: > > HK why would you miss it? There will be no replac

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-29 Thread José Lorenzo
HK why would you miss it? There will be no replacement for the cache helper. We recommend using Varnish, which provides the ESI tags. They are similar to the cache tags but they involve internally doing another request. We think this is a more robust and scalable solution than doing it in PHP.

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-29 Thread HK
Too sad to hear cache helper is removed. This ESI based replacement is it going to be in stable 3.0 version? On Monday, July 28, 2014 10:13:14 AM UTC+3, José Lorenzo wrote: > > > CacheHelper has been removed from CakePHP. The core team feels that the > functionality this helper provided is best

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-28 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani
> I'll probably start on it very soon as most of the 'big' work items I > wanted to get done for 3.0 are now complete. > > Awesome! -- = The Conference Schedule Creator : http://shdlr.com PHP for E-Biz : http://sanisoft.com ==

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-28 Thread mark_story
I'll probably start on it very soon as most of the 'big' work items I wanted to get done for 3.0 are now complete. -Mark On Monday, 28 July 2014 07:50:16 UTC-4, Dr. Tarique Sani wrote: > > Hey Mark, > > I know it will be done when it is done but can't resist asking none the > less - any ETA on

CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-28 Thread mark_story
The CakePHP core team is proud to announce the immediate availability of [CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2](https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/releases/3.0.0-alpha2). CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 is the second alpha release for CakePHP 3.0.0. In the month since 3.0.0-alpha1 a few new features have been merged, and

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-28 Thread José Lorenzo
Once we release the beta we are going to focus more in plugins, such as debug kit. Beta is hopefully the next release :) On Monday, July 28, 2014 1:50:16 PM UTC+2, Dr. Tarique Sani wrote: > > Hey Mark, > > I know it will be done when it is done but can't resist asking none the > less - any ETA o

Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-28 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani
Hey Mark, I know it will be done when it is done but can't resist asking none the less - any ETA on the Debug Toolkit for v3 ? TIA Tarique On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:43 PM, José Lorenzo wrote: > The CakePHP core team is proud to announce the immediate availability of > CakePHP > 3.0.0-alpha

CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

2014-07-28 Thread José Lorenzo
The CakePHP core team is proud to announce the immediate availability of CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 . CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 is the second alpha release for CakePHP 3.0.0. In the month since 3.0.0-alpha1 a few new features have been merged, an