Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-08 Thread mbavio
On May 8, 11:03 am, "Sliv (Tim MacAleese)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An example further to Chris' point is a recent discussion I had with > Nate - I ran into an issue where I passed an IP address through built- > in IP validation then used ip2long to convert it so I could store it > in a MySQL

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-08 Thread Sliv (Tim MacAleese)
An example further to Chris' point is a recent discussion I had with Nate - I ran into an issue where I passed an IP address through built- in IP validation then used ip2long to convert it so I could store it in a MySQL signed INT. I noticed that an IP written like 255.255.255.011 would pass vali

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-08 Thread Chris Hartjes
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:01 AM, b logica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure if you got that backward, but I'd think it'd always be > easier if you know the other person has a better idea than yourself. > *Knowing* and *accepting* are two different things. Computer programmers tend to b

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread b logica
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Chris Hartjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We have a winner! > > For many people it is a difficult thing to swallow your pride, tell > your ego to shut the fuck up and help build out someone else's vision > even when you know deep down inside that their visio

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Hartjes
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Sliv (Tim MacAleese) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I still don't understand, is all the people that make these huge > plans that involve massive amounts of work, yet I don't see these > people doing arguably way less work to write test cases and patches >

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread Sliv (Tim MacAleese)
What I still don't understand, is all the people that make these huge plans that involve massive amounts of work, yet I don't see these people doing arguably way less work to write test cases and patches for bugs/enhancements. Is it because these people only want to develop if they're in total co

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread NOSLOW
Keymaster, you make some very good points. Picking and choosing the right extension for the job follows the philosophy of Cake to begin with: Have a lean, mean core and extend as needed. Being careful of what is added is just being smart. Having the Bakery as a one-stop shopping place for such a

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread keymaster
I can't imagine myself using a huge "bundled" set of extra stuff, unless it was part of a cakephp initiative that was officially, and reliably, supported into the future with successive cake releases. Anything less, I would probably regard as too fly-by-nght to base my systems on. The extra stuff

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Dardo Sordi Bogado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Like I always say: You are always one of two people in this world: > > Someone who is part of the problem, or someone who is part of the > > solution. Decide who you are. > > There are 10 kind of people in the

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread Dardo Sordi Bogado
> Like I always say: You are always one of two people in this world: > Someone who is part of the problem, or someone who is part of the > solution. Decide who you are. There are 10 kind of people in the world: those who can read binary and those who can't. > > > --~--~-~--~~--

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread Sliv
Like I always say: You are always one of two people in this world: Someone who is part of the problem, or someone who is part of the solution. Decide who you are. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cak

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-07 Thread dr. Hannibal Lecter
> Communism failed! and open source is definitely as much about the > *individual* as the community. Well indeed, unlike democracy which is so successful and righteous! As far as I'm concerned, you can take the Cake release, pack it up with a bunch of behaviors, components, etc, and make a b

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Marcin Domanski
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Mariano Iglesias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just because. Or what, am I supposed to conf you in everytime I make a call > to gwoo? You know i can't be there for you Mariano every time you need a hug ;) > Who says that everything that Larry, Nate, Garret, and

RE: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Mariano Iglesias
CTED] En nombre de Marcin Domanski Enviado el: Martes, 06 de Mayo de 2008 01:54 p.m. Para: cake-php@googlegroups.com Asunto: Re: Something on the top of CakePHP > We do less talking about what is going on in CakePHP in the dev > channel than you would imagine. All the talking really h

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Marcin Domanski
> Because we're friends who happen to have the common goal of > contributing to the development of CakePHP. If you want to actively > work on something related to the project, you can join, too. Ok nate now im worried.. whats up with those polite responses ?;) -- Marcin Domanski http://kab

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread nate
On May 6, 12:54 pm, "Marcin Domanski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Gwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >  > > It is not related to CakePHP support which is the mission of the group. > > >  We do less talking about what is going on in CakePHP in the dev > >  channe

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Marcin Domanski
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Gwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > For me censorship is not the solution. Good thing its a mailing list > > and people don't have to look at it on the GGroup interface. > > I do not believe in censorship either, which is why i left the thread > open. I w

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Gwoo
On May 6, 8:57 am, "Dr. Tarique Sani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someday we will meet and talk about semantics and winning debater's points > :) CakeFest Argentina, Dec 2-5. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Gwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I point you to a definition..."Communism is a socioeconomic > structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless > society based on common ownership of the means of production.[1]". > Now, if you had said "Altruism

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Gwoo
> > For me censorship is not the solution. Good thing its a mailing list > and people don't have to look at it on the GGroup interface. I do not believe in censorship either, which is why i left the thread open. I was looking for some reaction and if people consider it helpful then I will leave i

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Gwoo
> > FWIW - I differ here - a prime motivator for writing open source is > "scratching your own itch" I have no problem with scratching your own itch if it also has application to the greater community. For instance, I have been working on an Actionscript project that I wanted to get up on Ohloh.

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-06 Thread Marcin Domanski
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Gwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For me, it is time to remove this thread. For me censorship is not the solution. Good thing its a mailing list and people don't have to look at it on the GGroup interface. > It is not related to CakePHP support which is the missio

Re: Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-05 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Gwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those of you who want to be part of CakePHP, please feel free to > contact me. As Sliv stated, we are always looking for people who are > willing to write tests, patches, docs, etc. We are not looking for > people who want to c

Something on the top of CakePHP

2008-05-05 Thread Gwoo
Sliv, thank you for being a voice of reason and contributing to CakePHP in a great way. I am sure Felix would have the same message, if he were paying attention. For me, it is time to remove this thread. It is not related to CakePHP support which is the mission of the group. Also, please do not r