Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread Maia McCormick
I agree that the caller trying to teach too much verbally gets pointless very quickly. There are definitely pointers that callers can give that will help dancers a bunch, but they should be given quickly and succinctly, and/or shown through demonstration ("try the allemande the angry, competitive w

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread Greg McKenzie
Donna wrote: > Personally I prefer that the "regular dancers" do not verbally "teach" the > new dancers. > I agree wholeheartedly and would not suggest that the regulars speak at all during a walk-through. The only exception to that might be when a caller is doing such a poor job that confusion

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread Greg McKenzie
Dave wrote: > Logistically, I think Greg's approach is difficult to make work. There's > always a new move happening after the pass through, so in effect, you'll be > calling four beats of "pass through, something something," usually "balance > here" or whatnot. Because there's no break between

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread Jonathan Sivier
On 2/11/2014 4:11 PM, Dave Casserly wrote: I find experienced dancers often take longer than 6 beats to circle three places. Regardless of whether callers should be teaching to beginners during a walkthrough, it can help experienced dancers to hear exactly how many counts a move should take in a

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread Donna Hunt
Personally I prefer that the "regular dancers" do not verbally "teach" the new dancers. Contrary to what you've described I find that what I have learned to say succinctly and clearly during my years of calling will take a "regular dancer" 2 or 3x the amount of time to say and by that tim

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread Dave Casserly
Logistically, I think Greg's approach is difficult to make work. There's always a new move happening after the pass through, so in effect, you'll be calling four beats of "pass through, something something," usually "balance here" or whatnot. Because there's no break between the instruction "pass

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread Greg McKenzie
John wrote: Read also mentioned "avoidance of teaching". > > But we ARE teachers. You may CALL it a walk-through, but what you are > actually doing is TEACHING the dance. And if the dance will work better if > you point out some key items then go head and point them out, i.e. teach! > I know th

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread James Saxe
our last go-round on "Circle Left 3/4 (6 beats); pass through (2)" was in June of last year. You can find the messages (including my own brilliant insights on the subject) in the archive starting at http://www.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers/2013-June/date.html#6252 (There are earlier me

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread John Sweeney
Actually: " Circle 3/4 & pass through as ANY move of a dance" I think. Yes, lots of excellent callers stress that circle 3/4 is six beats. I wish more callers would do it. Read also mentioned "avoidance of teaching". But we ARE teachers. You may CALL it a walk-through, but what you are actually

Re: [Callers] Calling weddings and private parties

2014-02-11 Thread Donna Hunt
Depending on the event I will often have dancers keep the same partner during La Bastringue. I often use that as a first dance and call it from the floor while dancing. I find the original swing too long and will call it with a Do si Do and swing for ONS. Doing it that way I teach the dance

Re: [Callers] Circle & pass through as the last move of a dance

2014-02-11 Thread John W Gintell
There are several other factors that effect this move. Sometime it is what happened before the circle causes the circle to start late because some people aren't there on time. And if you are in the circle and the fourth person isn't quite there do those who are there trust that they'll catch up

Re: [Callers] Calling weddings and private parties

2014-02-11 Thread Child, Jeremy
Sorry for the late reply - I had problems sending to the list. I agree absolutely with your comments - and especially that you need simple proper dances. I do a lot of weddings and have devised a few(!) rules / tricks to make them go well: * Never call a contra, and rarely a proper longw

Re: [Callers] Calling weddings and private parties

2014-02-11 Thread Bill Olson
Some times I call La Bastringue as a mixer at a wedding, but, especially if there are kids who might not want to "be away" from Mom or dad, I just call it as a keeper, i.e. swing is with partner each time, not neighbor.. b > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:37:19 -0800 > From: a...@pobox.com > T

Re: [Callers] Calling weddings and private parties

2014-02-11 Thread Robert Livingston
Call it either way!  As with any circle really. Bob Livingston From: Aahz Maruch To: call...@sharedweight.net Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [Callers] Calling weddings and private parties On Mon, Feb 10, 2014, Bill Olson wrote: >

Re: [Callers] Calling weddings and private parties

2014-02-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014, Bill Olson wrote: > > [...] There are some easy circle dances too (La Bastringue where you > stay with your partner the whole time).. Um, what?! The La Bastringue I know (both IFD and contra) is a mixer (SF area in case it's a regional thing). -- Hugs and backrubs -- I brea