Re: [cayugabirds-l] video: Montezuma hybrid teal, also Bald Eagles

2015-11-17 Thread Peter
Thanks for sharing the stick incident captured on the video Dave. I'm always amazed at what one is able to see when one actually gets out there and looks. Even things not written about in the "books". This past Saturday on the Visitor's Center Observation Deck at Montezuma we were treated to a

Re: [cayugabirds-l] DEC Mixed messages?

2015-11-17 Thread David Wheeler
I don't think it's a mixed message because no hunting and no discharge are different. No discharge would include target shooting. On Tuesday, November 17, 2015, Geo Kloppel wrote: > I was curious to know if DEC had made revisions to hunting regulations > with respect to

[cayugabirds-l] DEC Mixed messages?

2015-11-17 Thread Geo Kloppel
I was curious to know if DEC had made revisions to hunting regulations with respect to jurisdictional conflicts about waterfowl hunting. But DEC websites still seem to be giving waterfowl hunters mixed messages about the validity of local "no hunting" ordinances. For example, on this DEC web

RE: [cayugabirds-l] DEC Mixed messages?

2015-11-17 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
As I pointed out, in the email I bounced to the list, the 2005 city court challenge upheld the right of NYS to regulate lakeshore activity irrespective of any local ordinance. It concerned dog walkers, but presumably would apply equally to anyone ticketed for hunting. I appreciate the clarity

RE: [cayugabirds-l] DEC Mixed messages?

2015-11-17 Thread John VanNiel
Yes, I believe that is exactly what it means. For example, hunting can involve other implements besides guns. So a no firearms ban is not the same as a no hunting ban. From: bounce-119905244-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-119905244-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Gary

RE: [cayugabirds-l] DEC Mixed messages?

2015-11-17 Thread Mary E. Winston
Hi folks, would you mind taking this discussion to another form? Thanks, Mary From: bounce-119906319-12723...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-119906319-12723...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:37 PM To: John VanNiel Cc:

[cayugabirds-l] and back to birds - MERLIN, LOONS

2015-11-17 Thread John and Sue Gregoire
We took a ride to Interlaken this afternoon and checked the waterfront from Sheldrake to Wyers Point and the cove just north. A total of 59 loons in that area. the very strong southerly chop made picking them out difficult. We're sure there were many more. Ducks were few and all we found were

Re: [cayugabirds-l] and back to birds - MERLIN, LOONS

2015-11-17 Thread Geo Kloppel
Hi John, you wrote: > > A Cayuga and/or Seneca "pelagic" would be a fun fall/winter cruise. Yeah! Fun to dream, anyway. A few weeks ago I dropped some friends off at the dock for an Ithaca Boat Tour on the HAENDEL. I hadn't previously been up close to that steel-hulled vessel. It reminded me

Re: [cayugabirds-l] and back to birds - MERLIN, LOONS

2015-11-17 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
I did approach them just this fall with this very question. Issue is they remove their vessel from the Inlet for the winter in the first week of November. Sometime, in the near future, the lake water levels are lowered and no deep-hulled vessels can traverse the Cayuga Inlet. Plus, the

[cayugabirds-l] Chartering the MV Haendel - no actual birding content ...

2015-11-17 Thread Alicia Plotkin
(1) A group of birders chartered the Haendel awhile ago - maybe 10 yrs ago? - for some mid-lake birding, and & then reported back to this list. Any of the folks who did that still on the list? (2) I am on the board of The Floating Classroom

RE: [cayugabirds-l] and back to birds - MERLIN, LOONS

2015-11-17 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal
I had arranged one Ithaca 'pelagic' after one of the hurricanes a few, may be ten or more years ago. We were looking for Petrels and other pelagic birds. I don't remember the boat's name right now. I think Jeff Wells took the picture of the boat from East Shore. It should be great to have one