Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-15 Thread Geo Kloppel
Hi Carl, you wrote: > Just keep in mind that if we push too hard we could be the looser here. Yes indeed! There are already a number of exemptions to the firearms prohibition in Stewart Park. One of the possibilities is that the city might choose to revise the code by adding yet another exempti

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-15 Thread Carl Steckler
I think that this (below) is the part of the law that can be enforced at Stewart Park, it surely falls under the definition of a playground. However be very aware of possible consequences. It may surprise you that less than 12% of the DEC's budget comes from taxes. That leaves a whopping 88% f

[cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park - next steps?

2015-11-14 Thread Sandy Wold
As someone who frequents Fuertes Bird Sanctuary, I greatly appreciated Dave's courage and posting and the resulting discussion this brought up. Since tickets were not issued and the hunters were bitter, shouldn't we follow up - especially because this has happened before (re: picture of hunters wit

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Kevin Koss
If one goes to the City of Ithaca code site (ecode 360) and searches "guns" or "hunting", you will find information on the ban on the discharge of a gun in the city and also of the ban on hunting in the city. The word "firearms" will direct to Article ll which defines the restriction in Stewart

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread bob mcguire
“Rights”, yes, Dave. But along with rights go responsibilities. And one of those is to know the law as it applies to you. The City, of course, needs to make clear the Code as it applies to Stewart Park (signage). But that doesn’t excuse ignoring the law - especially where firearms are concerne

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread David Diaz
My guess is that these hunters thought they were conducting themselves in a manner consistent with NYSDEC regs, meaning that they have the right to waterfowl hunt on Cayuga Lake as long they don't fire in the direction of a dwelling that's less than 500' away (among other things). They also may

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Geo Kloppel
safety. Kayaked > > disrupting the hunt could pose a public safety concern... > > > > -Geo > > > From: bounce-119893064-3493...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-119893064-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of bob mcguire > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 11:41

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Peter
Dave wrote: "After the cops drove off, the leader of the guys, the big one, said I had won today, but if this happened again they'd call the cops on me for harassing them. I asked, if what happens?" Great come-back Dave. I guess they don't understand that if they obey the law.

RE: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
41 AM To: dave nutter Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L ; rmann...@twcny.rr.com Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park Thanks, Dave, for staying with this. The City code is clear: No person shall carry, transport or possess any firearm of any nature in the park, but this section shall not apply to duly

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread bob mcguire
Thanks, Dave, for staying with this. The City code is clear: No person shall carry, transport or possess any firearm of any nature in the park, but this section shall not apply to duly constituted peace officers. Limited use of archery equipment, supervised as part of a program provided by the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Geo Kloppel
If it's true that the issue has already been resolved (last year, as Ken suggests), perhaps the city should take a cue from other regional entities (the State Parks, the Finger Lakes Land Trust, the Finger Lakes Trail Conference, the Arnot Teaching Forest, etc.), and just post the rule (whatever

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Elaina M. McCartney
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Carl Steckler
Yet another good reason to buy a Duck Stamp. That way you can show your support for conservation and that you are not against their activity per say, just the location. I am willing to bet that if you showed that you too had a duck stamp and explained your concern that this is a city park thing

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Kenneth V. Rosenberg
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Deirdre Anderson
Although I am no longer an Ithaca resident, it warms my heart to see that as always, Dave is looking out for his fellow birders and the citizens of Ithaca by standing up to those men. Keep up the good work Dave and please keep posting your birding adventures! They make me feel like I am back birdin

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Jim Borden
*To:* CAYUGABIRDS-L > *Cc:* rmann...@twcny.rr.com > *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park > This afternoon I was enjoying Stewart Park - the Cayuga Waterfront > Trail, the Fuertes Sanctuary (swan pond), the birds on the lake - as I > often do. As I walked clockwise around th

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Laura Stenzler
-119891413-8866...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of Dave Nutter Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:05 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Cc: rmann...@twcny.rr.com Subject: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park This afternoon I was enjoying Stewart Park - the Cayuga Waterfront Trail, the Fuertes Sanctuary (swan

[cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-12 Thread Dave Nutter
This afternoon I was enjoying Stewart Park - the Cayuga Waterfront Trail, the Fuertes Sanctuary (swan pond), the birds on the lake - as I often do. As I walked clockwise around the pond and came out from the Fuertes Sanctuary path near the lakeshore and toward the park road, I came face to face