Re: [ccp4bb] Solvent-exposed Cys and an unidentified ligand

2009-06-23 Thread Lynn Gregory-Pauron
Thank you for your reply. I don't actually see anything interacting with what would be the second SH of the DTT. The atom opposite the Cys sulfur is at a distance of 3.0 A (could this eventually suggest hydrogen bonding)?? I have been looking at examples in the PDB, and have found a few protei

Re: [ccp4bb] structure <-> function

2009-06-23 Thread Justin Lecher
Kay Diederichs schrieb: > Hi Justin, > > maybe you would like to put a summary into the CCP4 wiki - just create > articles "proteins with similar structures despite dissimilar sequences" > and "proteins with similar function but dissimilar structures", and link > them to > http://strucbio.biologie

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem about Molecular Replacement with identity 30% model

2009-06-23 Thread Martyn Winn
30% is getting difficult - it may or may not work. But it is worth trying. Search model preparation programs such as Chainsaw rely on an accurate sequence alignment (between model and target), and this also gets difficult at 30%. You should try something more sophisticated than simple pairwise ali

Re: [ccp4bb] structure <-> function

2009-06-23 Thread Uwe Sauer
Hej Justin, Have a look at our FISH server (FISH = Family Identification with Structure-anchored HMMs) at http://babel.ucmp.umu.se/fish/. The FISH-server is constructed from a data base of structure-anchored hidden Markov models, saHMMs, which are derived from multiple structural superimposi

[ccp4bb] Detection of DNA in protein complex crystals

2009-06-23 Thread Nick Quade
Dear all, I am trying to solve the structure of a transcription factor in complex with its DNA. I got crystals of the complex under different conditions than the protein alone and they also look different. Unfortunately, they only diffract to 6Å so far. Before I continue to optimize the crystals

[ccp4bb] Off-topic: unidentified density for N-terminal Thr modification

2009-06-23 Thread Jonathan Elegheert
Dear bb, I have a high resolution dataset showing that the N-terminal threonine of my protein has been modified and cyclized, with the main chain N and side chain OG1 now involved in a non-planar 5 membered ring sugar-like structure. The molecule seems to be 5-6 atoms long with some 'head grou

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem about Molecular Replacement with identity 30% model

2009-06-23 Thread Frank Murphy
Hey! I have found the FFAS server ( http://ffas.ljcrf.edu/ffas-cgi/cgi/ffas.pl ) to build the best models for low homology MR searches. A relevant paper: 2004 Acta Cryst D60 1229-1236. Best of luck, Frank 2009/6/21 孙建 > Dear all: > Recently,I have a problem about molecular replacem

Re: [ccp4bb] Solvent-exposed Cys and an unidentified ligand

2009-06-23 Thread Lynn Gregory-Pauron
No, there's no cacocylate in the drop, but thanks for the suggestion. Lynn MARTYN SYMMONS a écrit : Dear Lynn - you don't have cacodylate around do you? - there is a DTT catalyzed modification of Cys by that (several examples in the pdb) - just a thought. regards Martyn ---

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: unidentified density for N-terminal Thr modification

2009-06-23 Thread Partha Chakrabarti
Hi Jonathan, This is purely a chemistry guess, but if you have a PEG400 derived compound like: (HO)-CH2-CH2-O-CH2-CHO, i.e, part oxidised, then the CHO might form a N,O acetal ring with the free amine and side chain. Five membered ring formation is kinetically favourable, though the chemistry mi

Re: [ccp4bb] Detection of DNA in protein complex crystals

2009-06-23 Thread Jacob Keller
What about a bit of ethidium bromide, then irradiate with a hand-held uv light? (assuming that your DNA is ds). Never tried this, but it might work. Jacob *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical Scientist Training Program Dallos Laborator

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] structure <-> function

2009-06-23 Thread Richard Gillilan
Begin forwarded message: From: Richard Gillilan Date: June 23, 2009 9:43:20 AM EDT To: "Nadir T. Mrabet" Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] structure <-> function A very interesting question. Stephan Jay Gould was well known for his argument that evolution is contingent on all kinds of factors (like met

[ccp4bb] Phantom Crystals - a recap

2009-06-23 Thread George DeTitta
Thanks to all who replied regarding experiences with phantom crystals (objects with crystal-like morphologies but NO diffraction). The answers were more fascinating than the original poorly worded inquiry deserved. Here is a recap. The observation of phantoms may be rare but not so rare: a nu

Re: [ccp4bb] Phantom Crystals - a recap

2009-06-23 Thread Jacob Keller
I would think that a "perfect HCP lattice," no matter the disorder in the organization of the molecules, would lead to Bragg diffraction, albeit of low resolution. The "ghost crystals" probably consist of very imperfect lattice(s) which fluctuate in their dimensions and kind over space and time.

Re: [ccp4bb] Phantom Crystals - a recap

2009-06-23 Thread Richard Gillilan
If I understand the idea correctly, I would still expect to see good Bragg spots, but the amplitudes would represent the rotationally averaged protein. This is like the hexagonal water lattice (Ih): there is "disorder" in how the water molecules are oriented at each lattice point (not reall

Re: [ccp4bb] Detection of DNA in protein complex crystals

2009-06-23 Thread Allyn Schoeffler
Dear Nick, If you have access to a fluorescent microscope, you can try staining crystals with PicoGreen and seeing if they fluoresce. (see ref: Kettenberger H & Cramer P, 2006, Acta Cryst D v62 pp146-150: Kettenberger H, Cramer P.Fluorescence detection of nucleic acids and proteins in multi-compo

Re: [ccp4bb] Detection of DNA in protein complex crystals

2009-06-23 Thread Kevin Jude
Note that, despite the claim otherwise in Kettenberger and Cramer, SYBR Gold does stain at least some proteins, so be sure to run the appropriate controls. kmj On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Allyn Schoeffler wrote: > Dear Nick, > > If you have access to a fluorescent microscope, you can try

Re: [ccp4bb] Detection of DNA in protein complex crystals

2009-06-23 Thread Nian Huang
Hi, Kevin, Wash your crystal very very well to get rid of unbound DNA. Then run your crystal with SDS PAGE gel, with protein and DNA as markers. After staining the gel with silver stain, the DNA will show with different color and migrate about where the dye locates. So don't run too long time. Reg

Re: [ccp4bb] Detection of DNA in protein complex crystals

2009-06-23 Thread Joel Guenther
The same goes for other DNA-binding dyes. I've seen a polymerase that binds EtBr. -Joel On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Kevin Jude wrote: > Note that, despite the claim otherwise in Kettenberger and Cramer, SYBR > Gold does stain at least some proteins, so be sure to run the appropriate >