Re: [ccp4bb] Let's talk pseudotranslational symmetry (or maybe it's bad data).

2011-02-10 Thread Randy Read
Actually, with a non-origin peak height only 1/4 of the origin and a translation that does not correspond exactly to a centering operator, Phaser has a very good chance of coping with this case. I think that the space group ambiguity of whether the 2-fold parallel to x is a screw axis or a

[ccp4bb] Solubilization refolding percentage efficiency

2011-02-10 Thread megha goyal
Hello, Can anyone let me know how to calculate solubilisation and refolding efficiency. We perform solubilisation and then refolding and check by HPLC if refolding is completed or not [single peak on HPLC]. how do i determine % efficiency of refolding. kindly guide me. regards, megha

Re: [ccp4bb] Let's talk pseudotranslational symmetry (or maybe it's bad data).

2011-02-10 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Well, I've actually had success using phaser for placing 6 monomers in the a.u. P41212 space group BUT only after the first monomer was fully built into the initial map (pdb entry 2pan), in other words when the probe was 100% identical in sequence and structurally close enough to the target.

Re: [ccp4bb] First images of proteins and viruses caught with an X-ray laser

2011-02-10 Thread Colin Nave
James All great stuff. Ø The individual crystals were not twinned (or at least I would be VERY surprised if they were) Can this be tested? The spots should show fringes around them corresponding to the shape transform of the nano-crystal. If twinned, the intensities of the fringes

Re: [ccp4bb] Solubilization refolding percentage efficiency

2011-02-10 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
How: 1. measure total protein before refolding (eg by absorbance at 280) 2. Purify refolded fraction by gel filtration in FPLC 3. measure total protein after refolding 4. calculate efficiency ... Why? I don't see the reason to know the efficiency. If after refolding I would get enough in a

Re: [ccp4bb] ctruncate - FP=0?

2011-02-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Are you sure these are real FP=0 or reflections which werent measured but have been added for completeness of the h k l list. The check is whether the SigF is also 0.00 - in that case they are genuinely missing.. Eleanor On 02/09/2011 11:34 PM, Ed Pozharski wrote: I observe under some

[ccp4bb] SUMMARY [ccp4bb] group defs for refmac rigid body

2011-02-10 Thread Tim Gruene
Hello, I received two private emails answering my question. Both pointed out that the residues are allowed to go beyond the actual residue numbers in the PDB file, so that specifying e.g. residues 1 through works just like a wildcard. Cheers, Tim On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:26:34PM +0100,

Re: [ccp4bb] First images of proteins and viruses caught with an X-ray laser

2011-02-10 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Anyway, I thought that was a cool idea, but like so many other cool things, it had to be cut from the Nature paper. Admittedly, the problem has not actually been solved yet. This is why we used REFMAC in TWIN mode. Is that a hint on the: a. wisdom of the editor b. wisdom of 'the third

Re: [ccp4bb] ctruncate - FP=0?

2011-02-10 Thread Ed Pozharski
Excellent point and no, these are not missing reflections. SigF is not zero. Also, if I am not mistaken, missing reflections in the MTZ format are recorded as NaN. Ed. On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 12:17 +, Eleanor Dodson wrote: Are you sure these are real FP=0 or reflections which werent

Re: [ccp4bb] ctruncate - FP=0?

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Evans
This does sound like a bug. If one of h,k,l are zero then the reflection is centric in P222 so the truncation will be different I just ran a test on an orthorhombic dataset (P212121) of mine and I do indeed see some strange F=0, sigF0 reflections, but in Charles Ballard's development version

Re: [ccp4bb] First images of proteins and viruses caught with an X-ray laser

2011-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Would it be true that the anomalous differences could not be measured in these types of datasets, because one would not know which Friedel/Bivoet reflection one is measuring in a given frame? Perhaps, given anomalous signal, there would be a way to tease out which orientation one was looking at

Re: [ccp4bb] exploding hydrogens during real space refinement in coot

2011-02-10 Thread Folmer Fredslund
Dear Kendall 2011/2/10 Kendall Nettles knett...@scripps.edu: When I real space refine my ligand the hydrogens fly away. The ligand pdb file and cif file were generated with progdr. I'm using Coot 0.6.2-pre-1. Kendall This could be a problem with the naming conventions of pdb versions. I

Re: [ccp4bb] exploding hydrogens during real space refinement in coot

2011-02-10 Thread Christian Roth
That happens also for me with all hydrogens, regardless if they belongs to a ligand or protein. Best solution for me is stripping all hydrogens out of the pdb. Manipulating the file in coot and readding them and start of the renfinement. Christian Am Donnerstag 10 Februar 2011 17:04:18

[ccp4bb] SLS MX Beamline Proposals: Deadline is approaching !

2011-02-10 Thread Vincent Olieric
=== SYNCHROTRON BEAM TIME FOR MACROMOLECULAR CRYSTALLOGRAPHY AT SLS === Proposal application deadline: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 Periods: May 1, 2011 - August

Re: [ccp4bb] First images of proteins and viruses caught with an X-ray laser

2011-02-10 Thread James Holton
I hope everyone understands that I am not the corresponding author on this paper! That is Henry Chapman. He, and most of the other authors have been slaving away on this problem for most of their professional careers. To be honest, I never did think it was going to work, and I was

Re: [ccp4bb] First images of proteins and viruses caught with an X-ray laser

2011-02-10 Thread James Holton
Our main reason for thinking that the nanocrystals were not twinned is because the regular crystals of the same form, grown under very similar conditions were not twinned (1jb0). The space group, unit cell, and indeed the structure in the ASU were all the same. In fact, I don't think

[ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Patskovsky Yury
Dear all, Twin refinement has yielded Rwork/Rfree values of about 0.10/0.12 for a nice quality 1.8A dataset (Rmerge 6%, space group I4, twin fractions 0.6/04) and almost the same R/Rfree (0.095/0.115) for another 1.5A nice quality data set (Rmerge 6%, space group I4, twin fractions

[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral position at Auckland

2011-02-10 Thread Alok Mitra
Dear all: A postdoctoral position is available in the Mitra Lab at the School of Biological Sciences at University of Auckland to investigate 3-dimensional structure/function of two membrane proteins involved in cation and solute transport using primarily X-ray crystallography, but also

[ccp4bb] FSEARCH question

2011-02-10 Thread Peter Grey
Dear CCP4 users, I am trying to use FSEARCH to position a SAXS envelop in an attempt to solve a molecular replacement case. Could you explain what the x,y,z values in the output stand for. Do they represent the position of the center of mass of the molecule in the unit cell ? I would be

Re: [ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Patskovsky Yury
Thanks, Garib It might be the case. As a matter of fact, you are welcome to look at the original data here http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/explore/explore.do?structureId=2GL5 The data turned out to be twinned ( I also have other datasets - all with certain degree of twinning) and now I am trying to

Re: [ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Just a warning: When doing twin refinement (and in general) you should always use original data for refinement. After refinement data may be different (in case of twin de-twinned). I will have a look as soon as I have some time. regards Garib On 10 Feb 2011, at 22:06, Patskovsky Yury wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Yury, - make sure you correctly generated free-R flags, so there is no cross-talk between test/work sets. Illustration: see page number 123 here: http://cci.lbl.gov/~afonine/for_ccp4/PavelAfonine_PHENIX.pdf - compare regular vs missing-fobs-filled maps. See pages188-190 here:

Re: [ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Yury I looked at this data and such drop of R/Rfree when you switch from non-twin to twin in the presence of twinning is expected. When you said that electron density is too good I was afraid that there is strong bias. But at least for the case from the pdb (2gl5) you can see a lot of

[ccp4bb] Webinar: Brian Matthews presents Protein Crystallography: Getting in on the Ground Floor

2011-02-10 Thread Angela Criswell
Dear colleagues, I would like to draw your attention to an upcoming webinar to be presented by Brian Matthews, Ph.D. titled Protein Crystallography: Getting in on the Ground Floor. Brian Matthews received both his B.S. (1959) and Ph.D. (1964) from the University of Adelaide, completing his

Re: [ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Yuri, The biggest drop I've seen as the result of detwinning is 10% lower R-free. Perhaps the detwinning has helped your refinement in othed ways. What R(-free) do you get when you take you pdb from the twinned refinement and your input mtz file and do 0 cycles of refinememt without

Re: [ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Yuri, The biggest drop I've seen as the result of detwinning is 10% lower R-free. Perhaps the detwinning has helped your refinement in othed ways. What R(-free) do you get when you take you pdb from the twinned refinement and your input mtz file and do 0 cycles of refinememt without