Re: [ccp4bb] Question about TEV cleavage

2011-04-01 Thread Peter Hsu
We've been using the S219V mutant for cleaving out tags. We usually do our cleavage reactions in an overnight dialysis after a Ni-column into 50mM Tris, 100-200 mM NaCl, 5 mM BME at 4C. I've never found problems with losing any protein in the reaction and recover usually 90% of the protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about GST cleavage

2011-04-01 Thread Alun R. Coker
Agitation can cause denaturation of proteins resulting in loss of activity, precipitation and even cross-beta amyloid fibre growth. Partial unfolding will probably make most proteins more protease sensitive. Alun. On 31/03/2011 20:41, gauri misra wrote: Just an offshoot of the same

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Ethan, Awsome progress! Really, I looked for other options like such. 2011 will be a good year for crystallography. I should implement this in PDB_REDO. Cheers, Robbie Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:06:47 -0700 From: merr...@u.washington.edu Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Dear Ethan, I would really really like to enhance all my PDB files, but I am concerned I will create a black hole in my hard drive. I hope you can convince me of the safety of your tool, thx Flip On 4/1/2011 8:06, Ethan Merritt wrote: Hi to all on ccp4bb: What better day to announce the

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Tim Gruene
Maybe the next version of coot as well as pymol/ Raster3D could also display virtual particles. This would really flashily push the quality of our models, especially on the title pages of the electronic versions of journals. There could even be a special July-14th-mode

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Frank von Delft
I'm pretty sure Coot has been displaying it all along. In the early days it displayed it much better, I must say, which is why it tended to crash. Maybe the next version of coot as well as pymol/ Raster3D could also display virtual particles. This would really flashily push the quality of

Re: [ccp4bb] xds question: inverse beam, lots of wedges

2011-04-01 Thread Harry Powell
Hi I'd just process it in iMosflm, and run the Quickscale task after integration. With almost no effort you should get a rapid visual indicator (in the graphs produced by Scala) of the discontinuities between the wedges. If the discontinuities are too big, then you might encounter some items

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Pedro M. Matias
Have you noticed the date ? It's April 1! At 10:31 01-04-2011, Frank von Delft wrote: I'm pretty sure Coot has been displaying it all along. In the early days it displayed it much better, I must say, which is why it tended to crash. Maybe the next version of coot as well as pymol/ Raster3D

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Pedro M. Matias
Well played, Ethan! At 07:06 01-04-2011, Ethan Merritt wrote: Hi to all on ccp4bb: What better day to announce the availability of a breakthrough technique in macromolecular crystallography? Given recent discussion and in particular James Holton's suggestion that the problem of disordered

Re: [ccp4bb] problem of conventions

2011-04-01 Thread Ian Tickle
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Santarsiero, Bernard D. b...@uic.edu wrote: Ian, I think it's amazing that we can program computers to resolve a b c but it would be a major undertaking to store the matrix transformations for 22121 to 21212 and reindex a cell to a standard setting. I think

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Mark J van Raaij
The program appears a bit black-box to me, could you provide more details (today of course). Mark Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Robbie Joosten robbie_joos...@hotmail.com Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 11:04 Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

[ccp4bb] problem of conventions

2011-04-01 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Excuse my naive (perhaps ignorant) question: when was the abc rule/convention/standard/whatever introduced? None of the textbooks I came across mentions it as far as I could see (not that this is reason for or against this rule of course).     Thanks,    Boaz Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Frank, I described in the previous e-mail the probabilistic interpretation of B-factors. In the case of very high uncertainty = poorly ordered side chains, I prefer to deposit the conformer representing maximum a posteriori, even if it does not represent all possible conformations.

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread Quyen Hoang
Dear Gerard, I agree with you based on debates at some conferences. But, based on what I have seen here so far, it seems to me that everybody knows exactly what to do with disordered side chains. People that want to build structures to best fit the data tend to prefer omitting disordered side

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi Robbie If it's probability you're after, if there's no density to guide you (very common!) you'd have to place all likely rotamers that don't clash with anything, and set their occupancies to their probability (as encoded in the rotamer library). Which library? The one for all side chains

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Jürgen Bosch
I assume TLS is supported or do we have to wait for version 1.1 ? When will you have a 10.7 (lion) standalone version compiled ? Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria

Re: [ccp4bb] xds question: inverse beam, lots of wedges

2011-04-01 Thread David Schuller
On 03/31/11 18:08, Patrick Loll wrote: We've just collected a number of inverse beam data sets. It turns out the crystals showed little radiation damage, so we have a lot of data: 2 x 360 deg for each crystal, broken up into 30 deg wedges. The collection order went like this: 0-30 deg,

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Ethan, many thanks for that - your Dark Matter really (en)lightened my day! I wonder, how many pdb records in the future will contain the corresponding remark lines that your incredible perl script produces :-) Best regards, Dirk. Am 01.04.11 08:06, schrieb Ethan Merritt: Hi to all on

Re: [ccp4bb] problem of conventions

2011-04-01 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Boaz, I think you are the one who is finally asking the essential question. The classification we all know about, which goes back to the 19th century, is not into 230 space groups, but 230 space-group *types*, i.e. classes where every form of equivalencing (esp. by choice of

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
Do you have a list of dark-matter-aware PDB refinement programs? Adding dark matter and refining in TNT or Xplor gives me exactly the same R as without. Furthermore the final refined files have lost the dark matter as far as I can see. This leads me to believe these programs are completely

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
Oh, that is where those pesky inhibitors I couldn't find were hiding... On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 23:06 -0700, Ethan Merritt wrote: Given recent discussion and in particular James Holton's suggestion that the problem of disordered sidechains is a problem akin to the difficulty of describing

[ccp4bb] SFCHECK produces incomplete postscript

2011-04-01 Thread Andrew T. Torelli
Dear all, I have been trying to compare a model that I'm refining against the native SFs using SFCHECK. SFCHECK finishes normally (no errors in log file, seemingly complete list of output .ps files), but produces a postscript file with only the first page of output (and it is mostly

Re: [ccp4bb] problem of conventions

2011-04-01 Thread Ian Tickle
Dear Gerard, The theory's fine as long as the space group can be unambiguously determined from the diffraction pattern. However practice is frequently just like the ugly fact that destroys the beautiful theory, which means that a decision on the choice of unit cell may have to be made on the

[ccp4bb] early (incomplete model) refinement if you had the location of a bound (highly occupied) anomalous scatterer

2011-04-01 Thread Francis E Reyes
Hi all, could you use its position in real space as a target for (to make it easy, rigid body) refinement? Real space meaning the electron density around the scatterer in an anomalous LLG map. Some other restraints: Say it's a metal cofactor and you know that it needs to be in a specific

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Quyen Hoang
Will this affect my reprocessing of the data with D*TREK on my journey to XPLORE the planets MERCURY and rPLUTO in my ENDEAVOUR to find and BUSTER some CRYSTALS with my on-board TNT into XPOWDER? I am still trying to GRASP the idea of AUTODOCKing on precise HKL locations based on the SHARP

Re: [ccp4bb] problem of conventions

2011-04-01 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
Dear Ian, Well, it *IS* broke. If you are running some type of process, as you implied in referring to LIMS, then there is a step in which you move from the crystal system and point group to the actual space group. So, at that point you identify P22121. The next clear step, automatically by

[ccp4bb] Disordered sidechains - a statement by the revolutionary non-dictator

2011-04-01 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
People of the disordered sidechains, ave! - perhaps the IUCr and/or PDB (Gerard K?) should issue some guidelines along these lines? And oblige us all to follow them? (Mark J van Raaij) - this discussion has flared up many times in the past, and maybe it's time for a powerful

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Jacob Keller
Well, actually you probably haven't subtracted the dark R value from your final R. This and other values are available in a dark folder on your hard drive, which is impossible to see/read, but which contains a lot of important information which will make your structure have a much higher impact

Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread John Badger
Strangely enough, Nature may be the only journal that fully enables reviewers of protein crystallography to do the proper job - reviewer access is provided to unreleased coordinates AND diffraction data upon request! (no this is not April1 joke). There are reasons to suspect that the request is

[ccp4bb] Quick-and-dirty searches of both PDB and EMDB at PDBe

2011-04-01 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
Hi all, As part of its recent winter update, the Protein Data Bank in Europe (PDBe; http://pdbe.org/) has improved its facility that allows for tandem searches of PDB and EMDB. It was designed to allow users to carry out many of their day-to-day searches (without the need to fill out a

[ccp4bb] program to calculate electron density at x,y,z

2011-04-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
I need to calculate the electron density values for a list of spatial locations (e.g. atom positions in a model) using an mtz-file that already contains map coefficients. To write my own code may be easier than I think (if one can manipulate mtz columns, isn't the only problem left how to

Re: [ccp4bb] SFCHECK produces incomplete postscript

2011-04-01 Thread S. Karthikeyan
If you have break in the protein chain, this problem will occur. Put TER card in the PDB file where ever the chain break is there, then run SFCHECK. The .ps output now will be complete and should be able to see in the viewer. HTH -Karthik Dear all, I have been trying to compare a

Re: [ccp4bb] SFCHECK produces incomplete postscript

2011-04-01 Thread Sergei Strelkov
April 1st, 2011 Dear Andy, We have observed the same problem before, and just today we could finally find an explanation. Apparently, a new (still undocumented) functionality was quietly introduced into few widely used oscillation data processing programs, enabling the recording of the

Re: [ccp4bb] program to calculate electron density at x,y,z

2011-04-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
Ed Pozharski wrote: I need to calculate the electron density values for a list of spatial locations (e.g. atom positions in a model) using an mtz-file that already contains map coefficients. To write my own code may be easier than I think (if one can manipulate mtz columns, isn't the only

Re: [ccp4bb] What happened to this innovative method by MV King?

2011-04-01 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Le 01/04/11 12:39, REX PALMER a écrit : Dear Protein Crystallographers I would like to share with you something I came across today. Unfortunately I was only able to copy the first 4 pages of the article by MV King as I need to post the email before 12am and the quality of the copy is

Re: [ccp4bb] program to calculate electron density at x,y,z

2011-04-01 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Ed, if you are familiar with CCTBX then map_value = map_data.eight_point_interpolation(site_fractional) Also, there is a similar method that will just give you the density value at closes grid point. Let me know if interested, and I can send you a 10 lines Python script-example that will do

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread Zbyszek Otwinowski
The meaning of B-factor is the (scaled) sum of all positional uncertainties, and not just its one contributor, the Atomic Displacement Parameter that describes the relative displacement of an atom in the crystal lattice by a Gaussian function. That meaning (the sum of all contributions) comes from

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
In my experience, the Refmac's default restraints on B-factors in side chains are too tight and I adjust them. Concur. See BMC p 640. BR

Re: [ccp4bb] What happened to this innovative method by MV King?

2011-04-01 Thread James Stroud
This was not so much an advance but a remarkable observation. We have since learned that these clathrates are entirely impractical. The problem is not so much their dextrorotatory properties, which are more or less a nuisance, but that they are too dense and have absolutely no affinity for

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread James Holton
I'm not sure I entirely agree with ZO's assessment that a B factor is a measure of uncertainty. Pedantically, all it really is is an instruction to the refinement program to build some electron density with a certain width and height at a certain location. The result is then compared to the

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Phoebe Rice
Congratulations on your amazing discovery, which immediately suggests many new lines of inquiry: Does dark matter affect macromolecular stability? Can it explain the difficulty some students have in sample preparation? Is it found in higher concentrations in brains that are thought to be

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread Randy J. Read
In this case, I'm more on ZO's side. Let's say that the refinement program can't get an atom to the right position (for instance, to pick a reasonably realistic example, because you've put a leucine side chain in backwards). In that case, the B-factor for the atom nearest to where there should

[ccp4bb] OT: PCR instrument

2011-04-01 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
Dear All, I was polled for a recommendation for a good PCR instrument, but I am not much of a molecular biology person - if someone could please help and kindly send some recommendations to Eric W. Reinheimer ewreinhei...@csupomona.edu Best regards, BR

Re: [ccp4bb] SFCHECK produces incomplete postscript

2011-04-01 Thread Andrew T. Torelli
Dear Karthik and Sergei, Thank you for the replies (helpful and humorous). Karthik, I confirmed that the chain breaks in my .PDB have TER cards, but I arrive at the same result. Perhaps dark matter is to blame for this singularity after all... In that case, maybe I just need to try

[ccp4bb] phenix library issues

2011-04-01 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear all, sorry for being off-topic! I have been experimenting with the latest phenix build [1]. I am fairly impressed with phenix.canephor [2]. At first sight the projected density looked a little week until I realised that I had used phenix.project.mediterranean. As I switched to

Re: [ccp4bb] phenix library issues

2011-04-01 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday, April 01, 2011 01:51:31 pm Tim Gruene wrote: Subsequently I attempted to improve the result using phenix.calzone [3]. This program comes in both Chicago and New York localizations. Do you know which one you have? Unfortunately this program crashed because of a missing

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Jacob Keller
How *did* those physicists get such a convenient hypothesis, when the rest of us have only light matter to work with! ...Or do we also really have our dark matter too? JPK On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Phoebe Rice pr...@uchicago.edu wrote: Congratulations on your amazing discovery, which

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread George T. DeTitta
It may simply be the case that all those seleniums scattering anomalously are pumping the dark matter. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu Sender: CCP4 bulletin board CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:25:02 To:

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread Eric Bennett
Personally I think it is a _good_ thing that those missing atoms are a pain, because it helps ensure you are aware of the problem. As somebody who is in the business of supplying non-structural people with models, and seeing how those models are sometimes (mis)interpreted, I think it's better

Re: [ccp4bb] program to calculate electron density at x,y,z

2011-04-01 Thread Bart Hazes
Hi Ed, I wrote a short program name HYDENS that takes a PDB file and an H K L amplitude phase file for a full hemisphere of data. You can make the latter from an MTZ with sftools. The program is on my website at http://129.128.24.248/highlights.html. There is a linux executable as well as