[ccp4bb] PSDI 2020

2020-06-10 Thread Djordje Musil
Dear Friends and Colleagues, We hope that you, your families and colleagues are all doing well in this time of COVID-19 pandemic. The recent world-wide spread of the pandemic has, regretfully, led us to a decision to postpone this year's PSDI meeting till 2021. The conference will therefore

Re: [ccp4bb] R: [ccp4bb] Heavy atom vs light atoms density

2020-06-10 Thread Jrh Gmail
Dear Vito I looked at the examples of I3C in 3e3d, 3e3s and 3e3t and certainly the latter two show clear 2Fo-Fc for several I3Cs at a range of occupancies. So my mention of the different difference maps’ effectiveness does not apply. Hermann and Eleanor suggestions hopefully will explain your

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2020-06-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Hmm - of course heavy atoms will affect the sigma level of a map, but that is easily adjusted - just scroll till the electron density looks sensible for some well defined protein atoms. (Ideally I guess we should contour at some absolute density level but choosing that to take account of

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2020-06-10 Thread LEGRAND Pierre
Dear Vito, In that case, and from what I can see from the picture you shared, I would guess that it is mainly the effect of the low occupancy of this I3C. The peak height of the iodide atoms seems low. Pierre De : CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] de la part de Vito Calderone

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2020-06-10 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Vito, I have also worked with iodinated and brominated compounds and in general the light atoms are not flattened out. As John Helliwell pointed out, you may look at series termination effects. However, since your map does not appear to be of extremely high resolution, I guess all useful

[ccp4bb] R: [ccp4bb] R: [ccp4bb] Heavy atom vs light atoms density

2020-06-10 Thread Vito Calderone
Dear John, I would say that in that case the FoFc is basically flat. Vito Da: CCP4 bulletin board Per conto di John R Helliwell Inviato: mercoledì 10 giugno 2020 10:40 A: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Oggetto: Re: [ccp4bb] R: [ccp4bb] Heavy atom vs light atoms density Dear Vito, The

Re: [ccp4bb] R: [ccp4bb] Heavy atom vs light atoms density

2020-06-10 Thread John R Helliwell
Dear Vito, The I3C isn't like the platins as a challenge to the 2Fo-Fc map. It maybe is more akin to the situation we described here:- https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1107/S0907444903004219 ie what does your Fo-Fc map, with three iodines placed, at the correct occupancy, look like?

Re: [ccp4bb] Heavy atom vs light atoms density

2020-06-10 Thread John R Helliwell
Dear Vito, We accumulated quite a good deal of knowledge of this type of complex, firstly the platins, then later, led by Dr Alice Brink, rhenium complexes with proteins. This review describes some of this:- https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2017/mt/c7mt00219j#!divAbstract The

Re: [ccp4bb] Heavy atom vs light atoms density

2020-06-10 Thread LEGRAND Pierre
Dear Vito, Could you precise in what kind of maps are you experiencing these effects: 2FoFc refinement maps or experimental phasing ? I had this kind of effects long ago in experiemental phasing due to Fourier transform ripple effects. This could be due to scaling problems, low resolution

[ccp4bb] Heavy atom vs light atoms density

2020-06-10 Thread Vito Calderone
Dear All, many of us have probably experienced that, in the diffraction of protein ligands containing heavy atoms (cisPt, I3C, etc), the overwhelming electron density of the metal can totally flatten that of the light atoms around (or rather make it look insignificant). Is anyone