Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-07 Thread Carter, Charlie
gt;> Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI Colin, A former graduate student of mine alerted me to Box GEP, Hunter WG, Hunter JS. 1978. Statistics for Experimenters. New York: Wiley Interscience in ~1984. I bought a new copy t

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-07 Thread Nave, Colin (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
://utw10426.utweb.utexas.edu/Topics/Models/Text.html though of course there are many other sources Still all good fun to discuss. Colin From: Carter, Charlie Sent: 06 November 2022 21:19 To: Nave, Colin (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI) Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-07 Thread Nave, Colin (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
finishing with saying he did have an alternative theory. Colin From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Ian Tickle Sent: 06 November 2022 20:43 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI Hi Colin That seems to be a fundamental misinterpretation of what Maxwell actually

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-06 Thread Carter, Charlie
eful though. The question is how far their usefulness extends. From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> On Behalf Of Bryan Lepore Sent: 05 November 2022 17:03 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI And of co

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-06 Thread Ian Tickle
; > > *From:* CCP4 bulletin board *On Behalf Of *Bryan > Lepore > *Sent:* 05 November 2022 17:03 > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI > > > > And of course, > > > > "... all models are approximations. Essential

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-06 Thread Nave, Colin (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
] Another folding AI And of course, "... all models are approximations. Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful. However, the approximate nature of the model must always be borne in mind" Box, G. E. P.; Draper, N. R. (1987) Empirical Model-Building and Respons

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-05 Thread Bryan Lepore
And of course,"... all models are approximations. Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful. However, the approximate nature of the model must always be borne in mind"Box, G. E. P.; Draper, N. R. (1987)Empirical Model-Building and Response SurfacesJohn Wiley & Sons"Since all models

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-05 Thread Carter, Charlie
Begin forwarded message: From: "charles w carter, jr" mailto:cwcar...@ad.unc.edu>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI Date: November 5, 2022 at 12:13:04 PM EDT To: "Nave, Colin (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)" mailto:colin.n...@diamond.ac.uk>> As notable a scientist

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-05 Thread Nave, Colin (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
that at least one of them covers the uncertainty in any structure predictions. From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Bryan Lepore Sent: 03 November 2022 12:22 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI [ emphasis/bold font is mine]: “In general we look for a new l

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-03 Thread Debanu Das
Amen. On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 5:19 AM Frank von Delft wrote: > Great, now we have two random number generators. > > > On 03/11/2022 12:10, David J. Schuller wrote: > > https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.20.500902v2 > > Evolutionary-scale prediction of atomic level protein structure w

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-03 Thread Bryan Lepore
[ emphasis/bold font is mine]: “In general we look for a new law by the following process. First we guess it. Then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right. Then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment

Re: [ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-03 Thread Frank von Delft
Great, now we have two random number generators. On 03/11/2022 12:10, David J. Schuller wrote: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.20.500902v2 Evolutionary-scale prediction of atomic level protein structure with a langu

[ccp4bb] Another folding AI

2022-11-03 Thread David J. Schuller
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.20.500902v2 Evolutionary-scale prediction of atomic level protein structure with a language model doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2022.07.20.500902 Abstract Artificial intelligence has the