Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-03-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I presume you have done density modification after calculating the exptl phases? If you use REFMAC to refine your partial model with the exptl/density modified phase restraints your FWT PHWT fourier coefficients already use the combined phase. I am not sure how to choose a damping factor. If y

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-03-11 Thread Fengyun Ni
Hi, I have tried SHARP, but no positive results could be obtained. Do you have some articles on how to combine the model phase and experimental phases? I could only seen the consecutive density in mir 8 to 6 A resolution map, so I could only locate roughly the position of helix. After that I use

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map? - more about completeness

2009-02-23 Thread Alexandre Urzhumtsev
Hello, sorry to appear too much last days but since people continue to comment the problem of Alphar, my guess is that it might be a nice illustration to what was discussed this week-end. Since the crystal is very long in the c-direction (380 A) and relatively short in two others (50 A), I su

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-02-23 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Dear alphar~ ... I guess that a lot of the subsequent advice depends to the counter- question "Which program did you use for phasing "? My view on the subject is summarized in: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Experimental_phasing [any contributions are welcome to i

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-02-21 Thread Charlie Bond
Hi Alphar, A while ago I had success with a poor MIR map by building in a few fragments I could identify and then combining phases from this model with the MIR phases using SIGMAA (CCP4 program) and then calculating new maps. A couple of cycles of this resulted in phases in which I had con

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-02-21 Thread Fengyun Ni
Thanks, Ezra! I have a native dataset. I'll try what you said, Hope it works in my case. Thanks! Alphar 2009/2/21 Ezra Peisach > Personally, I would try to build into what you see and then do phase > recombination. I had a SeMet crystal in which I could only see part of a > sheet and helix

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-02-21 Thread Fengyun Ni
Thanks, Poul! How could I change the scale of the data intensities by a factor 2-3? Do I need to change it in scaleit or to change it in mlphare? Is that always necessary to make the occupancy of the major site to become ~1? I'll try this. I use phenix to detect the twin effect, the results turned

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-02-21 Thread Poul Nissen
Hi alphar~ Check the sites you get from anomalous difference Fouriers and stick to those as your correct HA sites. At the same time you may consider not to refine the HA substructure on the anomalous differences but merely using the isomorphous differences. Maybe you need to change the sca

[ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-02-20 Thread Fengyun Ni
Hi everyone! I have a question on my poor MIR map. Four datasets (two AU and two HG) were used for phasing upto 3 A resolution in my case. I could locate several heavy atom sites for each dataset with occupancy finally refined to about 0.3 to 0.4, and with B value refined to about 50 to 80. I did