[ccp4bb] Liquid nitrogen resistant flooring

2011-02-16 Thread Nicholas Keep
Can anyone recommend a floor coating that passes category 2 containment (ie not wood) that is resistant to liquid nitrogen. Ie you can fill dewars on without cracking. Various solutions our estates people have fitted have all proved unsatisfactory. Bets wishes Nick -- Prof Nicholas H. Keep

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2011-02-16 Thread Richard Edward Gillilan
This has been a problem for us too. Sorry, I don't have a solution to offer except, recently, we have provided metal buckets filled with a layer of aquarium gravel at each station and encouraged users to dump their excess nitrogen there instead of on the floor. Richard On Feb 16, 2011, at

Re: [ccp4bb] Liquid nitrogen resistant flooring

2011-02-16 Thread David Roberts
We went through a building renovation and this has been a problem for us too. In the old days, our building was simply sealed concrete - and you could do anything with it with no issues. Now, it's an epoxy floor, but really what happens is the liquid nitrogen cools it down and breaks the

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2011-02-16 Thread Harry M. Greenblatt
BSD Dear Nicholas, Three possible solutions that I have seen: 1. A sheet of stainless steel under the filling area over concrete (I think I saw that at the ESRF). 2. A throw-away layer of linolium that you replace every few months. Sort of like an ablation layer on a heat shield

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2011-02-16 Thread Boaz Shaanan
: [ccp4bb] Liquid nitrogen resistant flooring To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK We went through a building renovation and this has been a problem for us too.  In the old days, our building was simply sealed concrete - and you could do anything with it with no issues.  Now, it's an epoxy floor

Re: [ccp4bb] Liquid nitrogen resistant flooring

2011-02-16 Thread Dr. Isabel De Moraes
- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Nicholas Keep Sent: Wed 2/16/2011 12:20 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Liquid nitrogen resistant flooring Can anyone recommend a floor coating that passes category 2 containment (ie not wood) that is resistant to liquid nitrogen. Ie

Re: [ccp4bb] Liquid nitrogen resistant flooring

2011-02-16 Thread ralf . flaig
this helps, Ralf -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Nicholas Keep Sent: 16 February 2011 12:21 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Liquid nitrogen resistant flooring Can anyone recommend a floor coating that passes category 2

Re: [ccp4bb] Liquid nitrogen resistant flooring

2011-02-16 Thread James Holton
At ALS, we have a red epoxy-on-concrete floor, which is lN2 resistant but still cracks if abused. However, we have not repainted it for many years now. We found that one very good way to extend the life of the floor is to keep users from dumping their cryogens onto it. In Berkeley, it is