Re: [ccp4bb] Manganese buffers for protein crystallization

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Dowling
Hi Matt, In addition to the other helpful comments, I have also found that if you are using reducing agent, this complicates issues furthers due to metal complexation, I suppose. If you do need a reducing agent for your protein, I would suggest adding TCEP instead of BME or DTT, as this ha

Re: [ccp4bb] Manganese buffers for protein crystallization

2009-04-06 Thread Charlie Bond
Hi Matthew, Two anecdotes: For one protein we had protein in pH7 with 10 mM Mn2+ and just set up crystal trials as normal. Although at higher pH excess Mn precipitated as MnO2, we still had Mn (2+, presumably) in the active. For another protein, we grew apo crystals at pH8 and then gradually

Re: [ccp4bb] Manganese buffers for protein crystallization

2009-04-06 Thread Christian Roth
I have used up to 20 mM MnCl2 in acidic buffers without visible changes in the color of the solution. Unfortunately it changes quite dramatic above pH of 7- Probably due to the formation of Mn(OH)2, which Arthur already mentioned. It might be further oxidized to a Mn3+ species. During a purifi

Re: [ccp4bb] Manganese buffers for protein crystallization

2009-04-06 Thread Arthur Glasfeld
We regularly use 1-2 mM Mn2+ in xtal set-ups. The problem we've encountered is formation of the insoluble, brown-colored Mn(OH)2 in more basic solutions, but we've also found that the Good buffers (HEPES, EPPS, etc.) are less prone to the formation of the precipitate, while Tris seems to p

Re: [ccp4bb] Manganese buffers for protein crystallization

2009-04-06 Thread Choel Kim
Dear Matt, I use manganese for all my kinase buffers. My holobuffer contains 2mM manganese at pH 7.0. The key was to add manganese after you pHed the buffer with NaOH. I never used any basic buffer and it could be issue if your buffer is too basic. Below is the recipe for my holobuffer. I

Re: [ccp4bb] Manganese buffers for protein crystallization

2009-04-06 Thread William G. Scott
Presumably you want Mn2+ , but you need to specify. If so, you need to make it up fresh, and keep it at a pH below 7 if at all possible, as it oxidizes readily. Bis-tris will weakly chelate it and slow the oxidation process. On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Matthew Alan Bratkowski wrote: Hi.

[ccp4bb] Manganese buffers for protein crystallization

2009-04-06 Thread Matthew Alan Bratkowski
Hi. Does anyone have experience using solutions containing manganese as crystallization buffers (buffers, not screening well solutions)? The protein that I am working requires manganese for activity, and I have read reports of related proteins crystallizing in manganese buffers. I made a buffer