Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-30 Thread Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
gt;> > >> _______ > >> Dr. Loes Kroon-Batenburg > >> Dept. of Crystal and Structural Chemistry > >> Bijvoet Center for Biomolecular Research > >> Utrecht University > >> Padualaan 8, 3584 CH U

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-27 Thread Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
ake sure to add sufficient and correct meta data. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> Loes > >> > >> ___ > >> Dr. Loes Kroon-Batenburg > >> Dept. of Crystal and Structural Chemistr

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-27 Thread John Berrisford
red to our everyday use of > >> cloud services. And as Graeme mentioned: when archiving raw data > >> make sure to add sufficient and correct meta data. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> Loes > >> > >> __________________________

[ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-27 Thread Gerard Bricogne
gt;> > >> Best wishes, > >> Loes > >> > >> ___________ > >> Dr. Loes Kroon-Batenburg > >> Dept. of Crystal and Structural Chemistry > >> Bijvoet Center for Biomolecular Research > &

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-24 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear all, as a follow-up to our initial message (and similar to other activities from the MX community), we added some content to our BUSTER wiki at https://www.globalphasing.com/buster/wiki/index.cgi?Covid19 to show interested users how to (re-)refine existing PDB entries with BUSTER and how

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-20 Thread Ivan Shabalin
: woensdag 18 maart 2020 23:30 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK  Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures Dear colleagues, Perusal and some initial (re-)refinement of the various SARS-CoV-2 protease structures in the PDB seems to indicate that that there mi

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Filipe Maia
Dear Colleagues, I would like to add my voice to those advocating making available raw diffraction images and point out another resource for raw data deposition, https://cxidb.org, particularly for the case of emerging methods such as serial crystallography. Cheers, Filipe On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Harry Powell - CCP4BB
Hi > While those text files would be heavy, they'd be still lighter than raw > images and the whole useless white space they carry with them between > reflections. At the risk of extending this thread into a different direction, the "white space (the images) carry with them between reflections

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Andreas Förster
This last, very important point made by Graeme gives me the chance to plug a satellite workshop at the IUCr Congress (end of August, so fingers crossed that this will go ahead) on "MX raw image data formats, metadata and validation". This is organized by Herbert Bernstein, Loes Kroon-Batenburg, Br

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread John Berrisford
___ >> Dr. Loes Kroon-Batenburg >> Dept. of Crystal and Structural Chemistry >> Bijvoet Center for Biomolecular Research >> Utrecht University >> Padualaan 8, 3584 CH Utrecht >> The Netherlands >> >> E-mail : l.m.j.kroon-batenb...@uu.nl >&g

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Joel Sussman
AIL.AC.UK>> namens Gerard Bricogne mailto:g...@globalphasing.com>> Verzonden: woensdag 18 maart 2020 23:30 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures Dear

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear Julien, On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 08:47:20AM +, Julien Cappèle wrote: > Though I agree with you Clemens that raw images are amazing to work > with as you can use any software you are confortable with, we cannot > forget that depositing several TB of data for each lab would be bad > for ecol

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Peter Keller
Dear all, On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI) wrote: Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 09:08:21 From: "Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)" To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures No matter how much data we pr

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Kroon-Batenburg, L.M.J. (Loes)
Van: CCP4 bulletin board namens Gerard Bricogne Verzonden: woensdag 18 maart 2020 23:30 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures Dear colleagues, Perusal and some initial (re-)refinement of the various SARS

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
Hi Folks, Quick note on "Like a super raw image diet-plan for the incoming summer” - the bslz4 compression used with Eiger works really well, and the data are pretty close to entropy limit in terms of size - which means if you measure your data carefully (i.e. low background etc.) you can reali

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Julien Cappèle
Hi everyone, There are some very interesting ideas. Though I agree with you Clement that raw images are amazing to work with as you can use any software you are confortable with, we cannot forget that depositing several TB of data for each lab would be bad for ecological reason. And because d

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Andreas Förster
Hi Clemens, this is curious. You are right that there's a direct link to the raw data on 6vs4, but there isn't one on http://www.rcsb.org/structure/6H56. I'll contact RCSB to see where the problem lies. All best. Andreas On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:34 AM Clemens Vonrhein wrote: > Hi Andrea

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear Petr, On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 06:45:31AM +, Petr Kolenko wrote: > For those of you who are in touch with these data, would deposition > of unmerged intensities in P1 in the whole detector range instead of > complete dataset be good enough to „correctly“ re-evaluete the > structure? Or is

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-19 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Hi Andreas, On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 07:06:32AM +0100, Andreas Förster wrote: > - The link to the raw data can be found inside the mmCIF file under > _pdbx_related_exp_data_set.data_reference. Whether it's also shown on one > of the PDB sites is up to the designers of these sides. I cannot find a

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-18 Thread Petr Kolenko
people could offer their spare time to help the others with someting? Best regards, Petr From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Andreas Förster Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 7:07 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures As

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-18 Thread Andreas Förster
As someone who's done this (for one structure of minor significance), I would like to make a few comments: - I highly encourage deposition of raw data. Why would you not? Now that many labs are shut is the time to do it for all these datasets hiding somewhere on abandoned hard disk. These disks

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-18 Thread Soisson, Stephen M
A wonderful idea Gerard and Clemens. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Gerard Bricogne wrote: > > EXTERNAL EMAIL – Use caution with any links or file attachments. > > Dear colleagues, > > Perusal and some initial (re-)refinement of the various SARS-CoV-2 protease > structure

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-18 Thread Diana Tomchick
(fax) From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Eleanor Dodson <176a9d5ebad7-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 5:33 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures EXTERNAL

Re: [ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
What a great idea? Have you approached the depositors? Eleanor On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 22:31, Gerard Bricogne wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Perusal and some initial (re-)refinement of the various SARS-CoV-2 protease > structures in the PDB seems to indicate that that there might be potential > to

[ccp4bb] Raw diffraction images for SARS-CoV-2 related structures

2020-03-18 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear colleagues, Perusal and some initial (re-)refinement of the various SARS-CoV-2 protease structures in the PDB seems to indicate that that there might be potential to improve these if refinements could be repeated after some reprocessing and further analysis of the raw diffraction images, rath