Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It isn't that your space group is wrong, but are you sure that your mtz file has that space group in its header? MR will test all possible alternatives - in this case P3121 or P3221 - but won't change the symmetry information in the input mtz. You need to do that with a utility like mtzutils

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-19 Thread Deepthi
Hi Yes i did check my MTZ file header. It shows p3221. For the same reason i reprocessed the data again in both p3221, p3121 and p321. Except for p3221 none of the other space groups fit the model. The packing looks good and the map shows side chains very clearly. When i add the respective side

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-19 Thread Garib N Murshudov
1) Check free R flag. It may be related with free flag being 1 instead of 0. If it is the case then you can use newer version of refmac: http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/groups/murshudov/ or from ccp4 v 6.3 2) Try arp/warp Garib On 19 Jul 2012, at 18:29, Deepthi wrote: Hi Yes i did check my

[ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-18 Thread Deepthi
Hi all I am working with a small mutant protein which is 56 amino acids long. The crystal diffracted at 1.4A0 and the space group is p3221. I did molecular replacement using Phenix software with all the data (1.4A0) and got a solution. Phenix did auto building with waters and R-free was 0.3123.

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-18 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Hi there, Not much information provided. How was the initial model refined ? Phenix ? It could be a problem with the Refmac refinement protocol (difficult to say with so little information) if you switched from Phenix to Refmac. How certain are you 1 - of the space group; 2 - that the

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-18 Thread Deepthi
Thank You so much . I am trying to process the data again in all space groups possible for primitive hexagonal and try refinement again. And i didn't use Phenix after i got the MR solution. Probably refining the mutated model again would give some more information. Thank You once again.

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-18 Thread Jacob Keller
How about trying some ARP/WARP? JPK On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Pavel Afonine pafon...@gmail.com wrote: What happens if you do a round of refinement in phenix.refine after you have done the mutations? Note: Phenix Autobuild is a tool to build your model, not refine it (though it does

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-18 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Can you check space group in your mtz and pdb? I have seen this happening when they disagree. It is annoying and I would like it to be sorted out. If you want you can send your data and I can try to sort it out. Garib On 18 Jul 2012, at 17:50, Deepthi wrote: I tried opening the model with