Dear all,
I've just created a group on Facebook named CCP4 Stuff. This would be a
good place to upload as much random stuff as you want (images, videos,
links, comments, etc) that nobody will care about after a couple of days.
All you need is to join (this is not an issue, considering that most
Several recent posts with decently sized attachments (now in cross eyed
stereo too!) prompt this (annual?) anti-paperclip-button rant. Lucky
for me, I can just recycle the old messages:
http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg11949.html
Cheers from the self-appointed thought
Maybe this netiquette is a little outdated. Sending a few MB to thousands of
people is probably not much more than noise compared to current net traffic.
There is the IMAP protocol which overcomes the problem of modem connections,
which anyhow probably only affects a very, very small amount of
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:
allows MIME attachments, even though I also conside MIME outdated and am
extremely glad I do not need to fiddle with uu-en/de-code anymore.
As you no doubt know, MIME is a collection of Internet standards which
allow
Dear Ian,
I did not know correctly and confused it with the pre-MIME era you mention at
the very end of your email when we actually had to use uuencode in order to send
non-7-bit data by email.
Thanks for the clarification, I'll do my homework.
Cheers, Tim
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:54:28PM
for the lab, then
it requires approvals (with
signatures), and once every 6 months the web page can be updated.
So I don't think this will do!
Fred.
Message du 02/07/10 17:05
De : Frances C. Bernstein
A : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Copie à :
Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
Why not put
page dedicated to ccp4bb
attachments.
If disk use becomes excessive (although I think that's a danger yet) there
could be a 2 month expiration policy or something of the sort.
Ethan
So I don't think this will do!
Fred.
Message du 02/07/10 17:05
De : Frances C. Bernstein
their density photos,
etc, to the CCP4 wiki? There could be a wiki page dedicated to ccp4bb
attachments.
If disk use becomes excessive (although Ithink that's a danger yet) there
^
don't
could be a 2
How about having people just link to uploaded photos on flickr
(http://www.flickr.com/) or similar free service? If you upload the photos and
select 'all images' a link is produced that can be easily shared
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4755503052_bc6835dcdc.jpg). CCP4 doesn't
have
My opinion is that attached images in bb posts should be allowed:
1) Storage network bandwidth is cheap
2) Attached (even inline) images are convenient to understanding
the question/issue at hand
3) Emails are very easily deleted
4) If images are to be attached via web-links,
I agree to this.
What are the actual reasons against attachments?
If one really has a slow network connection and cannot use IMAP instead of POP3
(if I understand correctly, with IMAP one does not need to download the emails
until one actually wants to read them, but I may be wrong here, too),
Anyone still on PINE should consider a new email application :)
Flip
On 7/2/2010 20:29, Tim Gruene wrote:
I agree to this.
What are the actual reasons against attachments?
If one really has a slow network connection and cannot use IMAP instead of POP3
(if I understand correctly, with IMAP one
On Jul 2, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Frederic VELLIEUX wrote:
Which own web page???
A facebook account
A blogger account
A flickr account
A photobucket account
etc.
For any of these options, anonymity can be ensured by your not sharing
your personal information. If complete anonymity is desired,
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:
I agree to this.
What are the actual reasons against attachments?
If one really has a slow network connection and cannot use IMAP instead of
POP3
(if I understand correctly, with IMAP one does not need to download
On 07/02/10 14:40, Flip Hoedemaeker wrote:
Anyone still on PINE should consider a new email application :)
Flip
Alpine, for example. It even comes in a .rpm for easy installation with
Fedora or Redhat.
http://www.washington.edu/alpine/
It may not be as fancy as some of the other mail
pine is quite handy if you can ssh to your email server (Brandeis allows
that, for instance). Uses very little resources, fast, and poses zero
danger of ever executing a malicious code. There is very little
functionality added in other email clients. I don't use pine anymore,
but there is no
ssh may not be necessary, (al)pine can be configured to connect to a POP3 or
IMAP server, one of which a reasonable mail server would probably offer.
Tim
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 05:27:24PM -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote:
pine is quite handy if you can ssh to your email server (Brandeis allows
that,
I wouldn't mind sticking to the current ccp4 netiquette and adding links to the
images in question instead of attaching the images themselves.
However, I would prefer a server dedicated to this BB rather than something like
twitter, flickr, second life, google maps or ... - there is 'free' and
Hi Ian,
snip
I think the fundamental problem is that some people are still very much
attached (pun not intended)
And none taken .-)
to their text-based e-mail client (Pine, Pico or whatever), and I
completely agree that on this BB we have to cater for the lowest common
denominator. If
In the past month there have been several postings to the BB with large
(100kB or more) attachments. Can I remind subscribers that it is our
policy to discourage attachments as, amongst other things, they can
cause mailboxes to fill at an alarming rate. A link to a website
carrying the data which
while we're on this topic, it would be nice also if messages were sent
in plain text, not as html (like yours, Norman :-)), particularly as
these ones generally come out in a tiny font in my (Apple) mail
reader, for some reason
Phil
On 15 Sep 2009, at 09:45, Stein, Norman (STFC,DL,CSE)
-- Ian
-Original Message-
From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk]
On
Behalf Of Phil Evans
Sent: 15 September 2009 09:59
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
while we're on this topic, it would be nice also if messages were sent
: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
while we're on this topic, it would be nice also if messages were
sent
in plain text, not as html (like yours, Norman :-)), particularly as
these ones generally come out in a tiny font in my (Apple) mail
reader, for some reason
Phil
On 15 Sep 2009, at 09:45, Stein
...@jiscmail.ac.uk]
On
Behalf Of Phil Evans
Sent: 15 September 2009 09:59
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
while we're on this topic, it would be nice also if messages were sent
in plain text, not as html (like yours, Norman :-)), particularly as
these ones generally come out
-Original Message-
From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk]
On
Behalf Of Phil Evans
Sent: 15 September 2009 10:47
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
There are two problems, I think
1. Sending a simple mail like this in anything other
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
There are two problems, I think
1. Sending a simple mail like this in anything other than plain text
is wasteful, and also enforces the sender's way of displaying it on
the reader, rather than following the reader's preference.
(That may
[mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk
]
On
Behalf Of Phil Evans
Sent: 15 September 2009 10:47
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
There are two problems, I think
1. Sending a simple mail like this in anything other than plain text
is wasteful, and also enforces the sender's way
On 15 Sep 2009, at 11:24, Ian Tickle wrote:
Phil
Nothing at all wrong with plain text for simple messages as you say,
but
if you want to communicate a complicated equation (particularly one
containing a lot of Greek letters and math symbols not in the standard
ASCII set!) the HTML version
I suppose I also don't understand why people composing html messages
would select a tiny font size, or is that a function of the Mail
reader rather than the writer (which would seem to defeat the purpose
of the writer formatting the message)?
Assuming your mail reader has correctly
On Sep 15, 2009, at 3:43 AM, Harry Powell wrote:
I googled and found something about editing ~/Library/Preferences/
com.apple.mail.plist (double click on the icon, don't try with emacs
or vi...)and adding the following to the start of the first
dictionary:-
keyPreferPlainText/key
true/
On Sep 15, 2009, at 5:07 AM, Ian Tickle wrote:
it doesn't provide full equation formatting capabilities,
as in LaTeX for example, but at least one can type or paste in
equations
jsMath provides a convenient and easy-to-use way to embed and render
LaTeX in HTML:
-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk]
On
Behalf Of Phil Evans
Sent: 15 September 2009 12:42
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
On 15 Sep 2009, at 11:24, Ian Tickle wrote:
Phil
Nothing at all wrong with plain text for simple
Why do you say that?
Typing non-ascii text is the same process whether it's wrapped in HTML or
not.
Here's your sigma: ∑
My e-mail client only allows me to insert non-ASCII characters into HTML (or
RTF), not plain text: the option to insert symbols is greyed out in plain text
mode. If I
-Original Message-
From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk]
On
Behalf Of William G. Scott
Sent: 15 September 2009 15:15
To: Ian Tickle
Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments
jsMath provides a convenient and easy-to-use way
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