[ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato
Hi all, I've got crystals of a protein of ca 200 residues, with 2 free cysteines, 5 histidines, 2 methionines. We have nice diffraction for the native crystals, that grow in 150 mM KSCN, 17% PEG 3350, bis tris propane pH 8.8. We are crystallising the SeMet derivative, but I'm not completely su

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
Hi Sebastiano, Have a look at HATODAS: http://hatodas.harima.riken.go.jp/ Good luck, Miguel Le 15 juil. 09 à 14:33, Sebastiano Pasqualato a écrit : Hi all, I've got crystals of a protein of ca 200 residues, with 2 free cysteines, 5 histidines, 2 methionines. We have nice diffraction for

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread David Briggs
Hi Sebastiano, Free Cys' are crying out for Mercury derivatives. Try 2-3 with varying sizes of additional groups - HgCl2, K2HgI4, PCMB, from the "Magic seven" would be a good place to start. Watch out for problems with your low pH, though. Some salts will form insoluble hydroxide salts at pH 8.8

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Savvas Savvides
luck Savvas -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Briggs Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:27 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice Hi Sebastiano, Free Cys' are crying out for Me

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread David Briggs
Whps! Watch out for problems with your *HIGH* pH, though. Some salts will form insoluble hydroxide salts at pH 8.8. (HgCl2 & K2HgI4 should be okay). 2009/7/15 Sebastiano Pasqualato : > Hi all, > I've got crystals of a protein of ca 200 residues, with 2 free cysteines, 5 > histidines, 2 methi

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Laurent Maveyraud
Hi, Mercury will likely form a precipitate with you SCN- anions... solubility in water is 0.6 g/L (about 3 mM) at 25°C... Since you are not in water, at less than 25°C, and with you high concentration of SCN- ions, don't expect to have high concentrations of *soluble* Hg++ in you medium. Prolo

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Benini Stefano (A)
-Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sebastiano Pasqualato Sent: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009 14:34 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice Hi all, I've got crystals of a protein of ca 200 residues, with 2

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Joyce, Gordon M. (NIH/NIAID) [F]
Dear Sebastiano, why not have a look at http://sis.niaid.nih.gov/cgi-bin/heavyatom_reactivity.cgi. A reprint of the original paper can be found at http://sis.niaid.nih.gov/pub_pdf/Agniswamy-et-al-2008.pdf We did not specifically look at Bis-Tris Propane but did look at Tris pH 8.5 and H

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Annie Hassell
...@gsk.com "Miguel Ortiz Lombardia" Sent by: "CCP4 bulletin board" 15-Jul-2009 09:21 Please respond to "Miguel Ortiz Lombardia" To CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK cc Subject Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice Hi Sebastiano, Have a look at HATODAS: htt

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Ganapathy Sarma
-isomorphism issues. Best of luck Savvas -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Briggs Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:27 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice Hi Sebastiano, Free Cys'

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Jens Preben Morth
I would also include a NaI and NaBr quick soak in 250 mM, SCN- is considered a pseudohalide cheers Preben Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote: Hi all, I've got crystals of a protein of ca 200 residues, with 2 free cysteines, 5 histidines, 2 methionines. We have nice diffraction for the native crystals

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread X Xiong, Cellular & Molecular Medicine
Dear All, We have a very similar problem, I have got a protein of 200 residues predicted to have two free cys (but 14 internal cys!), 1 free histidine, 2 methionines (all predicted to be free). Native crystals diffracted to 2.2 A was obtained in 200 mM KSCN, 20% PEG 3350, 13% glycerol, bis t

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Phil Jeffrey
X Xiong, Cellular & Molecular Medicine wrote: My Question is: Does mercury tends to get into the protein core to denature protein or not? This is more likely to happen for a small "bare" Hg like Hg2+ in HgCl2 or Hg(OAc)2 than it is for a large organomercury compound like PCMB, PCMBS etc so i

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice X Xiong, Cellular & Molecular Medicine wrote: My Question is: Does mercury tends to get into the protein core to denature protein or not? This is more likely to happen for a small "bare" Hg l

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Jurgen Bosch
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Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread artem
Hi, 1. KSCN will suck up a lot of the Hg and other metals -- can you switch to something else? 2. Hg typically does not enter the protein core. 3. It's generally not necessary to use a special tank, as long as you treat the resulting solutions as heavy-atom waste; but of course each lab's safety p

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-15 Thread Shaun Lott
>For gel-shift assay, do people normally use a special gel tank for heavy >metal work? We used to use a Pharmacia Phast system, as this is bufferless and made it very easy to contain heavy metal contamination. Ours caught fire and died a couple of years ago, and I have yet to find a good cheap r

Re: [ccp4bb] heavy atom derivative choice

2009-07-17 Thread Kay Diederichs
David Briggs schrieb: Bart Hazes used to have an excellent set of notes online about heavy atom derivatisation - I can't seem to find the URL right now... I believe the CCP4 wiki has the information that you're looking for (at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Soak