[ccp4bb] sigma levels of averaged maps in coot ( or e/A3)

2012-06-06 Thread Ursula Schulze-Gahmen
I calculated threefold averaged omit maps in coot. These maps look nice and clean, but I am having trouble making sense of the displayed sigma levels or e/A3 values. When I display the unaveraged and averaged maps at a similar density level for the protein the unaveraged map is at 0.024 e/A3 and

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma levels of averaged maps in coot ( or e/A3)

2012-06-06 Thread Pavel Afonine
Ursula, please don't forget that you are looking at Fourier image of electron density distribution, which may be as different from the true electron density distribution as different from zero the F000 reflection and as different your Fobs data set from being 100% complete for all possible

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma levels of averaged maps in coot ( or e/A3)

2012-06-06 Thread Paul Emsley
On 06/06/12 21:47, Ursula Schulze-Gahmen wrote: I calculated threefold averaged omit maps in coot. These maps look nice and clean, but I am having trouble making sense of the displayed sigma levels or e/A3 values. When I display the unaveraged and averaged maps at a similar density level for

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma levels of averaged maps in coot ( or e/A3)

2012-06-06 Thread Dale Tronrud
I'm afraid I seriously mistrust the sigma and e/A^3 numbers reported by Coot for ncs averaged maps. I work with a crystal with near perfect 6-fold ncs and the e/A^3 numbers make no sense. For a 2Fo-Fc style map the e/A^3 values should be nearly the same after as before. They are not.