Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-25 Thread Eugene Krissinel
Thank you Piotr, this is very useful to know. Cheers, Eugene On 24 Apr 2014, at 22:18, Piotr Sliz wrote: Eugene, SBGrid Consortium supports certain paid programs such as Pymol, Schrodinger, and Geneious, and academic laboratories have access to a limited pool of tokens. For more

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-24 Thread Eugene Krissinel
SBGrid is a also good option if you can afford it. It comes with PyMOL licenses. - it would be helpful if SBGrid people can comment on this. AFAIK, nothing in SBGrid comes with paid licenses, and SBGrid fees are just for installing and maintaining the software. Individual program licenses

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-24 Thread Piotr Sliz
Eugene, SBGrid Consortium supports certain paid programs such as Pymol, Schrodinger, and Geneious, and academic laboratories have access to a limited pool of tokens. For more serious computations it might be easier to get an individual license, yet for starters the SBGrid shared-token library

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Jim Fairman
To the best of my knowledge the source code is still available on Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pymol/ You should be able to compile binaries for the OS of your choice from there. That being said, CCP4MG has been coming along nicely in recent years - at this point I'm 50:50

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Since this is the CCP4 BB, I'd give ccp4mg a try... On 23 Apr 2014, at Wed23 Apr 16:43, Cygler, Miroslaw wrote: Hi, I have inquired at Schrodinger about the licensing for PyMol. I was surprised by their answer. The access to PyMol is only through a yearly licence. They do not offer the

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Andreas Förster
No one is keeping you from downloading the source code and compiling. It's straightforward and free. Andreas On 23/04/2014 4:43, Cygler, Miroslaw wrote: Hi, I have inquired at Schrodinger about the licensing for PyMol. I was surprised by their answer. The access to PyMol is only through a

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Cygler, Miroslaw miroslaw.cyg...@usask.cawrote: I have inquired at Schrodinger about the licensing for PyMol. I was surprised by their answer. The access to PyMol is only through a yearly licence. They do not offer the option of purchasing the software and

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Hothorn
I'd like to add the under-underdog then, Tim Fenn's povscript+ https://sites.google.com/site/timfenn/povscript. Makes really clear and nice figures and is rather simple to compile. For the most part you do not even need a mouse to use it ... Michael On 23.04.2014 18:21, mark.x.brooks wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread mark.x.brooks
And to stick up for the underdog, try Chimera from UCSF, which also has been coming along nicely (understatement!): http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ Mark On 23 Apr 2014, at 17:48, Jim Fairman fairman@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge the source code is still available on

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Guenter Fritz
Hi, if one is hesitant to compile it it, pymol is easily installed on a Linux box via yum ; enable EPEL repo ( in Redhat derivatives e.g. fedora, Centos, SciLinux) yum install pymol will install version 1.6 (latest version by Schrödinger is 1.7) Best, Guenter Hi, I have inquired at

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Sampson, Jared
In addition to what has been mentioned by others, Open-Source PyMOL installation instructions for various platforms are available on the PyMOL Wiki: http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Linux_Install http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/MAC_Install http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Windows_Install Cheers,

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Francis Reyes
On Apr 23, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Cygler, Miroslaw miroslaw.cyg...@usask.ca wrote: They do not offer the option of purchasing the software and using the obtained version without time limitation. This policy is very different from many other software packages, which one can use without continuing

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Dmitry Rodionov
Hi Mirek, If you happen to be using OS X, Fink makes it very easy to install recent open-source pymol. Best regards, Dmitry On 2014-04-23, at 11:43 AM, Cygler, Miroslaw miroslaw.cyg...@usask.ca wrote: Hi, I have inquired at Schrodinger about the licensing for PyMol. I was surprised

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Engin Özkan
On 4/23/14, 1:53 PM, Francis Reyes wrote: Office 365 is $10 a month, Adobe Creative Cloud (what used to be their Creative Suite) is $50 a month with an annual commitment. Licensing the use of software on a time-limited basis as a business model seems like it's going to stick around. And

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Adrian Goldman
Well as s/w improvements don't necessarily happen on a yearly basis, but people like being paid each year, I think the model is not unreasonable, as long as the cost is reasonable - which, for instance, the Adobe s/w isn't. As one can tell from the profit margins of s/w companies. So I do pay