Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement

2012-04-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I always start MR by running chainsaw - you need a pit file or fast or blast output with the sequence alignment of the template and your new protein. chainsaw will edit the template to a) renumber residues taking account of any insertions and deletions b) prune and rename residues to the given

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement

2012-04-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
search model. 2) There is only one molecule - does it pack reasonably or are there great holes in the map with suspicious density for a 2nd molecule? I would refine the molecule you have and rebuild if possible, then use that model to search again Eleanor Dodson On 19 April 2012 03:24, Ed

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement

2012-04-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Thank you very much! Eleanor On 19 April 2012 19:43, Bret Wallace bretw...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this missing when I first installed v. 6.2 as well. They noted this in the problems page. You just need to replace the phaser_MR.tcl file with the updated version in the updates page. I

Re: [ccp4bb] finding NCS in water

2012-04-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Simplest is to submit your current structure to PDBe - they have software which moves all waters to lie close to protein. However the waters IDs don't help you know if A OH 123 matches B OH 123 for example. The very old utility water tidy tries to give meaningful names to your waters, but those

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Two points. 1) the fit to ideal geometry as flagged in coot validation does not guarantee a correct model - the best model should be the one that fits the experimental data best, without having unlikely geometry. You could easily get a model with perfect geometry which was incorrectly placed in

Re: [ccp4bb] negative density at some places in the side chain of residues

2012-04-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
What I would do - not net ideal! 1) the ASP looks in the wrong place - shift it into green density and one OE is probably a water.. 2) MET notoriously hard to model - I suspect there often are multiple conformations.. And of course at some wave lengths the S contribution should be down weighted

Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand geometry

2012-04-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think you will find the dictionaries for coot and refmac are different.. REFMAC default dictionary will $CLIBD/monomers/n/NAD.cif Good knows where coot finds its dictionaries - Paul? 1) check the REFMAC restraints in that dictionary are sensible - spec, are the planes and chiral centres as

Re: [ccp4bb] Suggestions for solving a structure with 8-10 copies per asymmetric unit

2012-05-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I have found lots of molecules but usually not in a single run. The first thing to think about is: is this likely to be a dimer? trimer? tetramer? Things to consider - a) any non-cryst translation? b) tthe self rotation might give a clue - c) is the model a multimer, c)what do the

Re: [ccp4bb] data backup

2012-05-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Is there a fix for this? It has been a perennial request for some time.. eleanor On 9 May 2012 10:53, sonali dhindwal sonali11dhind...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Dear All, I want to take the backup of all my data which i have refined using CCP4. Can you please guide if I copy all the ccp4 data

Re: [ccp4bb] Baverage calculation

2012-05-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Baverage gives you a plot of B value against residue number and chain ID - that would allow you to visually see which parts of each structure are best ordered. If you have run TLS refinement and NOT used TSLANL to add the anise and individual contributions to B then the plot will give you the

Re: [ccp4bb] How to refine CNS output file in refmac

2012-05-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Those error messages are warnings - not fatal errors - there must be something else reported in the log file to cause that. But as Garib says DNA standard names vary according to program and year - see if your atom names are those in the $CLIBD/monomers/g/GUA.cif That is where REFMAC will find

Re: [ccp4bb] dm: Error in opening input map file.

2012-05-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It is a long time since I did this, but don't you need just one master mask - then that is converted using your rotation matrix to mask the related part of the structure ? Eleanor Dodson On 15 May 2012 15:56, Yu Feng yufengc...@gmail.com wrote: Dear De-Feng Li, Thank you for your reply

Re: [ccp4bb] dm: Error in opening input map file.

2012-05-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Eleanor Dodson eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk wrote: It is a long time since I did this, but don't you need just one master mask - then that is converted using your rotation matrix to mask the related part of the structure ? Eleanor Dodson On 15 May 2012 15:56, Yu

Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I am not familiar with CNS restraints, but whatever the program restraints are - if you do a omit map, or just set the occupancies of the metal and its surroundings to 0.00 and do a few cycles of refinement, I believe any model bias will disappear and what you see will be pretty accurate

Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 17 May 2012 21:27, Eleanor Dodson eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk wrote: I am not familiar with CNS restraints, but whatever the program restraints are - if you do a omit map, or just set the occupancies of the metal and its surroundings to 0.00 and do a few cycles of refinement, I believe any

Re: [ccp4bb] Serine

2012-05-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
lovely density - i would like to know what % of series have multiple conformations - it would need a survey I guess of PDB depositions, not just coordinates, but checking maps.. Eleanor On 21 May 2012 22:21, Uma Ratu rosiso2...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you All for you inputs. Uma On Mon,

Re: [ccp4bb] P4132 vs. F23

2012-05-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You need to say what the cell dimensions are for these 2 options.. Eleanor On 29 May 2012 15:59, Andrey Lebedev andrey.lebe...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: Hi Mike. I would be more careful about incorrect space group. Yes, sometimes auto-indexing gives strange results. However, in your case two sets

Re: [ccp4bb] ligand geometry evaluation

2012-05-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I am not familiar with the PHENIX dictionary but you are right; if you restrain metal bond distances the structure will reflect the restraints but if you don't restrain the distances then the respective gradients for a light atom and a heavy one can produce some very odd and unrealistic

Re: [ccp4bb] Fun Question - Is multiple isomorphous replacement an obsolete technique?

2012-06-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Why would anyone ignore the anomalous data they had collected? It will always help the phasing, and decide the hand for you.. Eleanor On 6 Jun 2012, at 03:55, Stefan Gajewski wrote: Hey! I was just wondering, do you know of any recent (~10y) publication that presented a structure

Re: [ccp4bb] pROBLEM IN RUNNING dm

2012-06-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I guess you need to check the input mtz file. do mtzdmo this.mtz and check that the columns you have selected are present and have non-zero values. You need a FOM there. Eleanor On 14 Jun 2012, at 12:58, Appu kumar wrote: Hello Dear all I am trying running

Re: [ccp4bb] NCS rotamers

2012-06-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If you use the superpose mo;lecules task, using LSQKAB , and fit molecule A over molecule B say, asking for all atoms to be fitted, you will get a list of large deviations for main and side , which should include all those residues with side chains in different rotamers. Eleanor On 20 June

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Beware do ing this - you may just find the coordinates are on a different origin or a different symmetry equivalent. Eleanor On 20 June 2012 09:20, Mark J van Raaij mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es wrote: LSQKAB (superpose in CCP4i GUI) also outputs in its log-file the translation parameters and

Re: [ccp4bb] Mlphare problem

2012-06-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You can View input command file, when working from the GUI. Could you cut and paste this into your message - obviously some inmportant parameter is not set, but I cant tell which without seeing that file. Eleanor On 20 June 2012 05:25, Appu kumar appu.kum...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for

Re: [ccp4bb] protein interaction motif databases

2012-06-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Try emailing ebi - they have some sophisticated search tools to do things like this.. Eleanor On 19 June 2012 17:26, stanley5101 stanley5...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, Is there such a database that will allow me to search for particular structural motifs involved in protein interactions. For

Re: [ccp4bb] pROBLEM IN RUNNING dm

2012-06-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
, then the input data IS sorted, and converted to the standard asymmetric unit. Eleanor Dodson On 18 June 2012 14:28, Eleanor Dodson eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk wrote: Well - I guess you need to check the input mtz file. do mtzdmo this.mtz and check that the columns you have selected are present

Re: [ccp4bb] help regarding structure solution - high R values after MR

2012-06-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I wonder if this could have happened here? Some one in the lab has yet again been trapped by a feature?? of REFMAC. Say your MR solution is found to be in P21212 after you searched various orthorhombic SFs, but the input MTZ file has the space group still listed as P222 (i.e. the point

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I suspect you didn't request the FreeR assignment on the TRUNCATE interface? This calls amongst other programs, CAD and CAD makes sure that the reflection list is unique and that it is in a standard asymmetric unit. Most people do it by default so don't hit these problems... I suggest you just

Re: [ccp4bb] SCALA keywords for merging Scalepack (no merge original index) data ?

2012-07-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I use the GUI with most of the defaults , and just ask for SCALES constant And anomalous on of course but that is by default in SCALA .. Eleanor On 3 Jul 2012, at 16:43, Phil Jeffrey wrote: I'm not exactly a Scala veteran so am looking for advice as to what would be the best way to run

Re: [ccp4bb] Does anyone have used DelPhi to calculate the Electrostatic potentials of DNA ?

2012-07-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 11 Jul 2012, at 03:36, dengzq1987 don't understand the question really. What DELPHI do you mean? Many programs output DELPHI (refmac, SigmaA etc ) and they are usually used as input to a difference map using FFT Eleanor Hi all, recently,I want to use DelPhi to calculate the

Re: [ccp4bb] Chiral volume outliers SO4

2012-07-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - the problem may well be here - in the REFMAC dictionary (see $CLIBD/monomers.s.SO4.cif ) the chiral volume calculation uses at the order of the O numbering around the S atom . So if your O numbering is not right handed you will have the chiral volume calculated as positive, not negative.

Re: [ccp4bb] question on merging multiple data

2012-07-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
All this is best done from the GUI - pointless will sort out batch numbers, check indexing etc.. But you still have to identify any rogue batches, and decide on when to jettison the data st.. The Sigma level is related to the number of observations of each reflection, so this will decrease as

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It isn't that your space group is wrong, but are you sure that your mtz file has that space group in its header? MR will test all possible alternatives - in this case P3121 or P3221 - but won't change the symmetry information in the input mtz. You need to do that with a utility like mtzutils

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternative conformation of Phe and Tyr?

2012-07-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Don't forget you will need to adjust the contour level to see something with occupancy 0.3 - easily done with coot eleanor On 27 Jul 2012, at 11:25, Steiner, Roberto wrote: Or refine the occupancies with Refmac... Roberto From my iPhone On 27 Jul 2012, at 11:04, Tim Gruene

Re: [ccp4bb] manipulation of water molecules in pdb files

2012-07-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The old fashioned water tidy will try to assign matching (non-standard) names to matching H2Os which is useful for analysis of structural waters, but cannot be deposited. I think coot has a tool to move waters to be near the protein but maybe that isn't all you want. Why not start deposition

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of ligands

2012-07-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
What do you mean - running REFMAC directly on the output file? Are you sure you have the same space group given in the mtz file and the PDB file? If the MR has placed your structure in P32 say, nd the input mtz has SG P31, you need to change the mtz header to include the now-known SG. There

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac5.7 refine pesudo-translational symmetry

2012-08-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
/Rfree result. Thanks a lot for your help. Best wishes, Qixu Cai 2012/7/31, Eleanor Dodson eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk: More details - what do you mean by pesudo-translational symmetry ? Are there two molecules related by a translation vector? or its it something more complicated

Re: [ccp4bb] pseudo translational symmetry

2012-08-03 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Brilliant illustration - even in 3D! eleanor On 3 Aug 2012, at 14:01, Laurie Betts wrote: I couldn't resist this shot. It might not make the cut.but IMG_20120803_085837.jpg

Re: [ccp4bb] Pairwise distance calculation

2012-08-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I am surprised if the numbers are wrong, maybe your chosen superposition isn't the same as that used for superpose - there are 2 methods available - are you using the secondary structure matching, or the assigned residue match? Eleanor dodson On 5 Aug 2012, at 15:17, Zhou, Tongqing (NIH/VRC

Re: [ccp4bb] Process multiple data sets

2012-08-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Before any further attempts you must check that the crystals have the same unit cell volume. I usually do this using matthewscoeff from the GUI ( By the way why isn't the volume automatically written into the mtz header asap!!!) If the cell volumes differ by as much as 5% no reindexing or any

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] CC1/2, XDS and resolution cut off

2012-08-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Begin forwarded message: From: Eleanor Dodson eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CC1/2, XDS and resolution cut off Date: 8 August 2012 10:10:55 GMT+01:00 To: Marcus Fislage marcus.fisl...@vib-vub.be Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Like Ian, I tend to use as much data

Re: [ccp4bb] having difficulties with ammonium ion

2012-08-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
These are the atom names you should have in your monomer. No mention of H_N4 there.. NH4 HN4HH 0.000 0.0000.0000.000 NH4 N NNT1.000 -0.5810.302 -0.782 NH4 HN3HH 0.000 -1.2321.041

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser with MR------search ensemble

2012-08-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The ensemble should be a set of coordinates Eleanor On 15 Aug 2012, at 04:42, 李华 wrote: Dear ccp4er, I try to use Phaser MR to solve a structure. A mtz file from oasis was used as a ensemble. All of the parameters containing protein MW, nucleic acid MW, extent of X, Y, Z and center of

Re: [ccp4bb] wilson B and ARP/wARP

2012-08-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I haven't seen that message, but I think you could provide Arp/Warp with the model, plus the original data, and it would probably work. Eleanor On 25 Aug 2012, at 16:38, Ben wrote: I recently processed a dataset in HKL2000, imported the scaled data to mtz format in CCP4, and obtained a

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative electron Density for Zinc

2012-08-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I wish I could give a sensible explanation, but this feature is very common with heavy atoms. Possible problems. The default wavelength for all atomic scattering functions is Cu Ka - you can see the formula used and details in the file $CLIBD/atomsf.lib. The atomic scattering values are much

Re: [ccp4bb] scala scaleit problems - GUI bug???

2012-09-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Like Tim says SORTMTZ expects a different format used for unmerged reflection lists. And I think this space in the filename causes the SCALEIT problem - linux operating systems often treat spaces as filename terminators.. But the … marks around a file name are meant to override the space

Re: [ccp4bb] Program for map rotation

2012-09-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Why don't you calculate the FFT over the whole asymmetric unit? That is the FFT default I think Eleanor But I think the COOT option works too, but it will also require that your input map covers the asymmetric unit. Eleanor On 19 Sep 2012, at 23:25, Niu Tou wrote: Dear colleagues, Is

Re: [ccp4bb] Maprot question.

2012-09-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You could use COOT to do the map rotation - then the parameters seem to work The conventions should be the same. I thought but I can't really speak for COOT. If you look at the CCP4 documentation for MAPROT, and use the Superpose molecules GUI task to fit A to B using lsqkab - that gives you a

Re: [ccp4bb] On maps and doubts

2012-10-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This is interesting. In principle m and D should provide an optimum map, and at high resolution they do a reasonable job. The answer about occupancy is a good point. You don't say what resolution your data is at, but maybe it is rather low? I suspect that below ~ 3A the estimates of both m and

Re: [ccp4bb] restrain range for ligand

2012-10-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
, and I would hesitate to alter those unless yu have special knowledge. Eleanor Dodson On 15 Oct 2012, at 12:36, Danilo Belviso wrote: Hi! Does anybody know which is the range is used by REFMAC to vary bond distances, angles, and torsions of a ligand molecule during a refinement process

Re: [ccp4bb] Twinned Data - more information

2012-10-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Or put all files into pointless.. It will read XDS and do the indexing checks Eleanor On 19 Oct 2012, at 12:45, vellieux wrote: Well, the first thing I note is that P6(3) is a polar space group. Hence what I would do myself is the following: take your crystal 'number 1' (as a reference);

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4superpose_only superpose interesting residues

2012-10-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You can use superpose LSQKAB to fit various residues by number.. Eleanor On 24 Oct 2012, at 23:59, WENHE ZHONG wrote: Dear members, I have one difficult task on hand and would like to ask for your advice. I want to superpose two enzyme structures just based on several residues (e.g. 5

Re: [ccp4bb] Compounded problems for molecular replacement

2012-10-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You don't say whether you have any indication of non cryst translation or likely dimer NC axes? The self rotation can help sometimes to select likely pairings - for instance if one (or both) domain(s) is forming a dimer. Eleanor On 26 Oct 2012, at 13:43, Bosch, Juergen wrote: We had

Re: [ccp4bb] adding some user-defined graphical objects in a PDB file (and displaying them)

2012-10-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I don't quite understand this - you can use an editor to add any coordinates you like in the correct atom format to a pdb. (Don't think you can deposit them though!) Then a program like coot can be tricked into thinking the monomer CUB say is to be displayed in any style it supports.

Re: [ccp4bb] aligning structure and generating symetry mates

2012-10-28 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think we need more information. Are the cells and space groups similar What are the transformations which fit your coordinates to the model structure? Have you submitted your coordinates to the PISA server at the EBI - that will suggest possible tetramers? Eleanor On 28 Oct 2012, at 07:31,

Re: [ccp4bb] aligning structure and generating symetry mates

2012-10-28 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 28 Oct 2012, at 14:07, Appu kumar wrote: transformation matrix.pptx

Re: [ccp4bb] aligning structure and generating symetry mates

2012-10-28 Thread Eleanor Dodson
the structure in coot, the resulting transformation matrix is attached with this mail. As both Arka Chakraborty and Eleanor Dodson suggested me to do PISA, I did but i am not getting the correct tetramer arrangement which i am getting on aligning the our strcture on model structure first

Re: [ccp4bb] how to find and add water molecules in electron density map in coot??

2012-10-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Read the manual? !! There is a menu under Other modelling tools with a task - Add waters. That will scan the map and add waters conservatively. Or you can use the validation tool. Find difference map peaks, and decide for yourseld whether they are waters. If you like the peak click Add atom at

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser MR with partial solution, 8 molecules/ASU

2012-10-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On the whole it is good practice to refine the 7 molecules you have - correct sequence etc etc, all with NCS restraints a 3A, then if you like use one of your improved molecules as the search model. But don't you have some NC symmetry such as dimers or tetramers - if so take one of the complete

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac

2012-10-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Please send an extract - you probably have a format error.. Or do you have 1500 chais?) Eleanor On 30 Oct 2012, at 22:43, jp d wrote: hi, i have a large pdb file and i keep getting this error with refmac ERROR: number of chains 1500 i suspect something needs to be done to my pdb any

Re: [ccp4bb] low-resolution data and SG

2012-11-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
There are several questions here. 1) What is the point Group - P4 or P422. I find the pointless statistics which check all symmetry operators singly useful. If the 2 fold kh-l gives about the same CC as the 4 fold operators k-hl -h -k l -k h l then you probably do have point group P422. ( But

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac5 problem

2012-11-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I don't know what exactly the phenix.autosol output is. If you are satisfied with the solution and have a mtz file containing F sigF HLA etc, then use Hendrickson Lattmann coefficients. If there is only Phase/Fom then use that. I am not sure how you would fare with SAD data directly.. But

Re: [ccp4bb] Copying R-free flags - possibly daft question.

2012-11-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Just give CAD the resolution cut off of the new data set.. Eleanor From the CAD documentation.. RESOLUTION [ RESOLUTION OVERALL dmin dmax ] | [RESOLUTION FILE_NUMBER i dmin dmax ] Use either: RESOLUTION OVERALL dmin dmax for overall resolution limits, or: RESOLUTION FILE_NUMBER i dmin dmax to

[ccp4bb]

2012-11-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Any spurious blob on a symmetry axis is multiplied up of course. And when you finish building side chains it may reduce in size. But waters etc can sit on special positions - you just enter them with occ = 0.5 and refine as usual.. Eleanor On 5 Nov 2012, at 09:49, Crystal Xu wrote: Dear

Re: [ccp4bb] how many cycles to settle B-factor?

2012-11-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I wouldn't expect there is an exact ratio between occupancy and B factor? atomic density is ~ occ*formfactor * exp(-b s**2) Eleanor On 20 Nov 2012, at 09:49, Jim Brannigan wrote: As an adjunct to B-factor vs occupancy thread, i might expect the b-factor to halve if the occupancy is set to

Re: [ccp4bb] Who invented PDB format?

2013-01-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Some of us resisted using an orthogonal format for coordinates, arguing that the output from a crystal structure should refer to crystal axes. And since symmetry was a crystal property it was important that we could see it easily. The PDB format won out, but I still use coordconv a lot to

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference set of contacts

2013-01-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
pisa at the ebi will do this very nicely. Upload your pdb files. PISA is part of the CCP4 distribution too, but the EBI output is prettier Eleanor On 4 Jan 2013, at 22:11, Brad Bennett wrote: Hi all- I have 2 PDB files of the same protein (in slightly different states) and I want to output

Re: [ccp4bb] Symmetry operator

2013-01-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I am afraid now I just use PISA at the EBI to answer this sort of question . It tells you the answer with lots of other useful information as well, and then you can use your intelligence to see why that operator is the correct one! Eleanor On 11 Jan 2013, at 01:05, James Stroud wrote: The

Re: [ccp4bb] P212121 and P213

2013-01-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Hard to say without data - but I would generate the 3 symmetry copies of the molecule you would have in P213, then do rigid refinement of those coordinates with the P212121 cell dimensions and symmetry. There are so many possibilities for origin shifts But you don't say how non-equivalent the

Re: [ccp4bb] A question about FFT

2013-01-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The FFT software tries to limit the volume to the asymmetric unit for the spacegroup. This has to be a 3-D box, so cubic spacegroups give more peaks than expected, but not a full list of 1260 .. However there may not be a complete list - these S are in di-sulphide bonds, and at limited resoluton

[ccp4bb]

2013-02-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I usually leave them in although their position is so uncertain; they probably have multiple conformations but that is hard to model at 2.8A . But that is not a hard and fast rule - lots of people set the occupancy to 0.00 and check whether the later maps give better guideance.. Eleanor On 21

Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo-translation?

2013-02-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The general rule is that a Patterson peak should be ~ 20% of the origin before considering it significant so none of those would really need to be considered. Eleanor On 25 February 2013 12:48, Michele Lunelli efu...@yahoo.it wrote: Dear all, I have an orthorhombic crystal (pointless

Re: [ccp4bb] How to split a dataset with PST?

2013-02-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Old tools still work. mtzutils allows you to select a zone eg: only output reflections with h even and k even look at the documentation to select what you want. Eleanor On 26 February 2013 10:03, Randy Read rj...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Hi, In your specific case, you can predict that reflections

Re: [ccp4bb] validating ligand density

2013-03-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I guess I have known lots of incorrectedly fitted ligands, and am never sure quite how to be confident they are correct. Your resolution is good, so one hopes the density is pretty clear? Common sources of error. By far the most common is caused by having an incorrect dictionary. Look very

Re: [ccp4bb] first use of synchrotron radiation in PX

2013-03-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Sivaraj Ramesechan was outlining the physics of multiple wavelength anom scattering in the 1960s as a method for solving insulin. It was purely theoretical then; no instruments to make the measurements.. Eleanor On 13 Mar 2013, at 17:19, Peter Moody wrote: When I started my PhD (in 1980!) at

Re: [ccp4bb] indexing/data reduction

2013-03-14 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I would keep the hexagonal lattice, assuming your integration was OK - no missed spots and then index the data as P1. If the anom Pattersons should then show the correct symmetry - if the Patterson shows P6/mmm symmetry you should be safe in either assigning P6122 or P6522 to the structure SG.

Re: [ccp4bb] space group determination problem

2013-03-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - you seem to have absences for virtually all the (0 0 4n+1 4n+3) and (2n+1 0 0) reflections which is consistent with P42 212 but you can be misled. Is there any pseudo translation with either X or Z 0.5 - that could give you similar absences. As Ian says, be wary.. Eleanor On 15 March 2013

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Umm - this is tricky. First of all you need to reindex the C2221 data into the P21 cell - do you know the operator? then expand that data set to spacegroup P21. There is a cad option to do this.. Then add that FreeR to the re-processed P21 data. Eleanor On 24 March 2013 14:37, Appu kumar

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
First - I dont think you have a 3rd molecule where you have put it - or at least not one with full occupancy. Those maps are a clear indication that something is wrong. What is the Matthews coefficient for the numbers in the asymmetric unit? Presumably your processing gave you a lattice which

[ccp4bb]

2013-04-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - if you know how the residues match then LSQKAB can compare all atoms and will give you RMSDs for matching pairs. SSM machos things according to secondary structure, and PISA analyse structure so you can compare the chemistry of the matched pairs.. But there is no easy option that I know

Re: [ccp4bb] Query regarding secondary structure limit

2013-04-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
1) At least four to get the H-bonding.. 2) No - depends on the number and arrangement of beta sheets. Protein structures vary a great deal! You could find the % of residues in protein structures which form helices and beta sheets I guess but there is such huge variation that it may not be very

Re: [ccp4bb] LINK or LINKR

2013-04-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
, especially in ion coordination, vary with context even if the involved atoms are the same. ** ** Cheers, Robbie ** ** ** ** *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *Eleanor Dodson *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 13:30 *To:* CCP4BB

Re: [ccp4bb] Anomalous atom or ligand?

2013-04-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Not sure I follow you completely.. You dont say what anom scatterer you expect, or what the wavelength is. 1) How did you find the anomalous peaks? If from an anomalous difference Fourier there will inevitably be noise. In practice when there are S to check this can be very helpful in deciding

Re: [ccp4bb] Poor electron density in some of the chains in an asymmetric unit

2013-04-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
There isnt much information here! Funny that 3 chains are poor - does that mean one and a half heterodimers? I presume you have checked spacegroup? Zanuda will test to see if any higher symmetry is present.. Eleanor On 29 April 2013 06:02, sonali dhindwal sonali11dhind...@yahoo.co.inwrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement hanging--what am I missing?

2013-04-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
What is the relationship between the molecules in the spacegroups - it seems likely that in the bigger cell there is a NC translation of ~(1/2,y,z)? ? (A2 ~ twice a1) That can be checked by the native Patterson.. If so that gives a class of significantly weaker reflections for h odd, and that

Re: [ccp4bb] A small clarification

2013-05-03 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You knowe there are alternative indexing for H3 - you couldnt have solved one as h k l and the other as k h -l? And alternate origins - H3 is a polar spacegroup so if you redid the molecular replacement you may finish up anywhere along the c axis.. Easiest is to do a superpose of both sets of

Re: [ccp4bb] Good NMR Board

2007-02-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I guess you can use this one - it certainly isnt restricted to crystallographic Qs.. Eleanor Justin Schmitz wrote: Morning every body! Does anybody know a board for NMR releated questions which has a quality like this? Thx for your answers

Re: [ccp4bb] Multi-copies in one assymetric unit

2007-02-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Sometimes this sort of disorder is due to an error , so the first thing is to check very carefully that the solution makes sense. Why are you so sure there are 6 copies in the asymmetric unit? In situations like this I first worry about SG. Is there a pseudo-translation vector? This can make

Re: [ccp4bb] Decent dataset from tiny needle crystals--but can't refine past a certain point

2007-02-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I guess I would go back to the data. Could there be twinning? Is the a pseudo translation vector which means there are systematically weak zones of data? ( hklview might show something strange) Rfree seems rather close to R to me for this resolution - maybe it should go up a bit? How many

Re: [ccp4bb] pseudotranslation and dyads in NCS

2007-02-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
To understand this one at least needs the P1 unit cell.. Operators 3 4 and 5 are almost the same rotation.. It is unlikely that they are all 2 folds? Eleanor Daniel Adams wrote: Hi bb, I am working on P1 dataset, SAD phasing resolution is 3.5 and trying to build model. However I am facing

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactor does not drop

2007-02-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Just an aside to this - I have had R factors 55% which then refine.. It is when they dont refine you are in trouble .. Eleanor Jiamu Du wrote: *Dear Prata:* First, I think you'd better check your subgroups. Maybe you got opposite hand of the data. Or change a model. When the Rfactor is

Re: [ccp4bb] axis of unit cell change

2007-02-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - if you reindex k,l,h then your cell will be more or less the same as theirs. But that moves the 2 fold axis. If your space group is truly P21212 with those cell dimensions then it would become P21 2 21 However maybe you just know the point group? Check the absences Eleanor U

Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space Correlation coefficients

2007-02-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
overlapmap does this for any set of coordinates and any map. Eleanor Charles W. Carter Jr. wrote: Is there a CCP4 program that will calculate residue-by-residue correlation coefficients for a molecular replacement solution and an experimentally phased map? Thanks, Charlie

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
There are many and various reasons for unpleasantly high R values, and twinning is undoubtedly one of them. But you can only have twinning with apparently good diffraction if the cell dimensions allow it. It is always a possibility in trigonal, tetragonal and cubic cells. Certain other

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating ligand-protein binding energy and contact

2007-02-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Have you tried pisa (www.ebi.ac.uk/msd - choose msdpisa You can download coordinates and it does various calculations to estimate binding energies. Eleanor Xu TAN wrote: Hi, all Does anybody have experience with binding energy calculation of ligand-protein interaction? What are the

Re: [ccp4bb] NCS Phased Refinement

2007-02-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - the idea of NCS refinement is to restrain the 2 NCS related models to be the same so that is problematic if they should be somewhat diffeent.. You can get the matrix using SSM superposition ( see the GUi - superpose molecules) This will match using Secondary structure and give a list of

Re: [ccp4bb] dmmulti NCS mask

2007-02-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
. Dmmulti generates the rest internally. On Feb 22, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Eleanor Dodson wrote: You just need one mask for your master molecule, which will be transferred by the matrices you give to all the other copies. I make the mask from the crude model, with a generous border round it - the program

Re: [ccp4bb] missing layer of electron density

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Such a twinning operator can also indicate that you spacegroup has an extra symmetry operator (h,-h-k,-l) That is in fact one of the symmetry operators for P3i21 H32 P6i22 Have you solved the structure in the lower symmetry and is that missing density properly generated by this operator?

Re: [ccp4bb] software to calculate VDW interactions between small molecule and protein

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
mathias wrote: Dear all, Can anyone of you guys recommend free software, or any open access internet server, to calculate VDW interactions of small molecules binding to protein. The only information I need is an output file which lists all amino acids of the target protein which make VDW

Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
shivesh kumar wrote: Dear all, I have a data set at 2.2A, of the selenomethionene labelled protein.How should I process the data.Thanx for the help. Shivesh I think you should ask your local crystallographer for help. There are several programs ( MOSFLM in CCP4, DENZO, XDS, D*TREK ) but

Re: [ccp4bb] R-free error in highest resolution bin

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
John Bruning wrote: When using Refmac how does one find/calculate R-free error in the highest resolution bin? Look at your loggraph for the final R Rfee - that gives the numbers in resolution shells. Eleanor

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