RE: Writing SCSI 9-Track Mag Tapes from Windows/DOS

2015-10-13 Thread Marc Verdiell
Woot! I finally got my HP 7970E (yeah, a year in the making!), HP 88780, and Overland Data OD3201 9-track tapes all working at the same time. One on HP-IB, one on SCSI-1, and one on Parallel Port interface. Only my ever finicky Qualstars got jealous and decided not to play ball. Here is a family vi

Re: Fair price and ways to find a teletype

2015-10-13 Thread ben
On 10/13/2015 11:14 PM, Randy Dawson wrote: Hi Brad, I want to answer this, because it is going to entail a lot more than you expect. An ASR 33 cost me 1,700 from great guy Wane Durkee, teletypeparts.com. He refurbished the whole machine, a complete work-over and it is beautiful. He made a

RE: Fair price and ways to find a teletype

2015-10-13 Thread Randy Dawson
Hi Brad, I want to answer this, because it is going to entail a lot more than you expect. An ASR 33 cost me 1,700 from great guy Wane Durkee, teletypeparts.com. He refurbished the whole machine, a complete work-over and it is beautiful. He made a custom case to ship it to me. This is a very d

Re: Fair price and ways to find a teletype

2015-10-13 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 14 October 2015 at 00:25, Brad wrote: > I only ever see teletypes for sale on ebay, only in the US, and of course I > don't bite because of shipping costs, plus usually people ask insane prices > for them. I am wondering what a reasonable price should be for a unit with > a paper tape reader,

Fair price and ways to find a teletype

2015-10-13 Thread Brad
I've been watching a lot of vintage computer videos put up by enthusiasts (thanks so much for that). I have been really fascinated lately by the Altair and teletypes, paper tape readers and so on. Just watching one fellow load BASIC into his Altair. you just felt the history and the connection to

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Anderson
I might have prints for the rk11, and RK11 and RF11 on fische, when I can find them On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Henk Gooijen > > > I will probably download everything ... in my experience, websites > > with "/~/" in it seem to disappear after "s

Re: RK11-C (was Re: H960 logo panel)

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Anderson
I have two backplanes, some boards somewhere ,but no panels, at least yet. Also a Diablo 30 or 31. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Henk Gooijen > wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Henk Gooijen > wrote: > >> I'd love to get one co

Re: Visual 100 Terminal - Circuit Diagram Wanted

2015-10-13 Thread Jonathan Chote
Thanks for the manual :) Much appreciated. No diagram but lots of other useful information. On 14-Oct-15 2:46 PM, Nigel Williams wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jonathan Chote wrote: I know it exists out in the wild somewhere, but I can't find a copy myself. It's for a VT100 clone te

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Jon Elson
On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:22 PM, tony duell wrote: The Versatec electrostatic plotters are not the same as the VT52 printer, they are yet another process. WIth those the paper passes between a set of electrodes that build up a charge image on the paper. I beleive the paper is specially treate

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread COURYHOUSE
Looks good Evan... Yea the ADM 3 a classic indeed! Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 10/13/2015 7:13:24 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cct...@snarc.net writes: Cctalk'ers, Vintage Computer Federation -- the new 501(c)3 non-profit that now runs the MARCH

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread ben
On 10/13/2015 9:08 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote: WELL-- The ADM3 is now finally iconic. Or maybe it was iconic already. Yah, that represents us old computer guys pretty well Glad you like it! I have a mid-2000s VCF West t-shirt that shows the front of an ADM3 on front, and the back of the termina

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread Evan Koblentz
WELL-- The ADM3 is now finally iconic. Or maybe it was iconic already. Yah, that represents us old computer guys pretty well-- almost no one born after 1990 will know what it is! :-) Why not a TTY? That could still could be mistaken as more modern computer at a glance. ADM3-style termin

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread ben
On 10/13/2015 8:13 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote: Cctalk'ers, Vintage Computer Federation -- the new 501(c)3 non-profit that now runs the MARCH museum, and which will soon make some major expansion announcements -- has a very cool new logo. Here's a preview: http://www.snarc.net/vcf-logo-preview.png.

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread Evan Koblentz
WELL-- The ADM3 is now finally iconic. Or maybe it was iconic already. Yah, that represents us old computer guys pretty well Glad you like it! I have a mid-2000s VCF West t-shirt that shows the front of an ADM3 on front, and the back of the terminal on back. Clever.

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread ben
On 10/13/2015 8:42 PM, N0body H0me wrote: WELL-- The ADM3 is now finally iconic. Or maybe it was iconic already. Yah, that represents us old computer guys pretty well-- almost no one born after 1990 will know what it is! :-) Why not a TTY? That could still could be mistaken as more modern com

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Anderson
Do you remember Carrol Touch terminals made in the area? I just picked up 2 still in the box! On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:22 PM, tony duell wrote: > > > > The Versatec electrostatic plotters are not the same as the VT52 > printer, they are > >

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread william degnan
the old logo also had this terminal, or something very close. Nothing better than the ADM3 IYAM and YCAM. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Connor Krukosky wrote: > Born 1997 and I know what it is :) > Then again my two main projects at the moment is a DG Nova 4 with the Disk > Subsystem (5mb f

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread Connor Krukosky
Born 1997 and I know what it is :) Then again my two main projects at the moment is a DG Nova 4 with the Disk Subsystem (5mb fixed platter and 5mb removable RL style pack) and a PDP 11/23 with a Cipher tape drive. So I might be in the 'almost' exception category ;) -Connor K On 10/13/2015 10:

RE: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread N0body H0me
WELL-- The ADM3 is now finally iconic. Or maybe it was iconic already. Yah, that represents us old computer guys pretty well-- almost no one born after 1990 will know what it is! :-) > -Original Message- > From: cct...@snarc.net > Sent: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:13:08 -0400 > To: cctalk@clas

New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-13 Thread Evan Koblentz
Cctalk'ers, Vintage Computer Federation -- the new 501(c)3 non-profit that now runs the MARCH museum, and which will soon make some major expansion announcements -- has a very cool new logo. Here's a preview: http://www.snarc.net/vcf-logo-preview.png. Hoping everyone likes it! - Evan

Re: DG S/130 progress

2015-10-13 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/13/2015 7:04 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > On 10/13/2015 5:08 PM, Jay West wrote: > > More to follow related to my hardware and software inventory, but I just > got called to dinner. > > JRJ > Jay (West): FYI, my Nova 4 has the later "Eclipse" series hard drive and the DSDD soft sectored floppy

Re: Visual 100 Terminal - Circuit Diagram Wanted

2015-10-13 Thread Nigel Williams
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jonathan Chote wrote: > I know it exists out in the wild somewhere, but I can't find a copy > myself. It's for a VT100 clone terminal called the Visual 100 - from around > 1982. > I scanned the reference manual if you haven't found it elsewhere, has a small amou

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/13/2015 2:47 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Henk Gooijen > wrote: >> I'd love to get one complete RK11-C ... anybody? :-) > > I have an RK11-C but it did not come with a panel. Also, I've never > attempted to fire it up, so I'm sure it needs a round of > cleani

Re: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM (tony duell)

2015-10-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/13/2015 07:32 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: Tracks 1 & 2 look fine. We swapped the probes for track 2 & 3 just to make sure that it wasn't a logic analyzer problem. A 'scope connected to the differential signals shows the same track 3 glitches. The glitches were present with the TU55 and th

RE: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM (tony duell)

2015-10-13 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:29:11 + > From: tony duell > Subject: RE: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM > > > We swapped the TU56 and TU55 drives between the PDP-12 and the PDP-8/I. > We > > Does the TU55 work correctly on the 8/I ? > Yes, it works perfectly. It even worked OK after we put it

Re: ST506/412 failure modes? (in this case, an IBM 0665)

2015-10-13 Thread Jules Richardson
On 10/12/2015 01:58 PM, tony duell wrote: This may be forgotten knowledge - or perhaps more likely, something that was never known in the first place - but are there any typical failure modes of ST506/412-type drives (beyond the obvious mechanical damage between heads and platters)? For the ge

Re: DG S/130 progress

2015-10-13 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/13/2015 5:08 PM, Jay West wrote: > Pictures of the S/130 system I'm building up are at > https://www.flickr.com/photos/131070638@N02 > > I think the last I posted here... the cpu was up and running, that was the > first piece I refurbished. I took everything out of the rack and cleaned > tha

Re: Xebec 1410A (WAS Xebec 1402A Seagate HDD controller)

2015-10-13 Thread Fred Cisin
This was in an IBM 5150 (original PC)? I'm still confused. The 1410A is a bridge board that presents an MFM drive as a SASI (pre-SCSI) device. What SCSI bus adapter is that machine fitted with? On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Jules Richardson wrote: Indeed, that and the 5150's PSU wasn't capable of runnin

Re: RK11-C (was Re: H960 logo panel)

2015-10-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Ethan Dicks > I only ever saw one other RK05F in the wild, FWIW. I only ever saw one, also. > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: >> I remember (just) one RK11-C passing by on eBay .. at least 8 years >> ago. It sold for ~ $50 (IIRC). > That's

Re: Anyone have manuals for these peripherals?

2015-10-13 Thread COURYHOUSE
will add it to my list as I go though arrivals here Carl. thx--- Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 10/13/2015 2:42:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, carl.clau...@gartner.com writes: I have a Perkin Elmer VT disk drive (Vanguard I) which due to the

Visual 100 Terminal - Circuit Diagram Wanted

2015-10-13 Thread Jonathan Chote
Hey everyone, I know it exists out in the wild somewhere, but I can't find a copy myself. It's for a VT100 clone terminal called the Visual 100 - from around 1982. If anyone can help me track the circuit diagram down, and/or any other information too, I'd be very greatful. If payment is re

Re: Xebec 1410A (WAS Xebec 1402A Seagate HDD controller)

2015-10-13 Thread Jules Richardson
On 10/12/2015 07:09 AM, Steven Hirsch wrote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, Devin Monnens wrote: Ok, correction to previous message. It's a Xebec 1410A with 1.0 Firmware. Should be MUCH easier to find now that we have the correct model number! This was in an IBM 5150 (original PC)? I'm still confused.

DG S/130 progress

2015-10-13 Thread Jay West
Pictures of the S/130 system I'm building up are at https://www.flickr.com/photos/131070638@N02 I think the last I posted here... the cpu was up and running, that was the first piece I refurbished. I took everything out of the rack and cleaned that up well, and the cpu has been remounted there. Y

Anyone have manuals for these peripherals?

2015-10-13 Thread Claunch,Carl
I have a Perkin Elmer VT disk drive (Vanguard I) which due to the acquisitions of the time, was Interdata and became Wangco and Cipher. Looking for a manual especially schematics. I have an IBM 9347 (9 track tape drive) which uses IPI-3 for its interface. If I can get schematics for the dri

new acquisition

2015-10-13 Thread Jay West
Yep, I was the one that scored that SYM-1 and accessories for $40 :) Pictures at https://www.flickr.com/photos/131070638@N02 Just arrived, have yet to power it up as I'm busy with DG projects (next email!) :) J

RK11-C (was Re: H960 logo panel)

2015-10-13 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Henk Gooijen > wrote: >> I'd love to get one complete RK11-C ... anybody? :-) > > I have an RK11-C but it did not come with a panel. > > Now you know where you can leave it behind for a good old retirement :

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:39 , tony duell wrote: > > [Aluminium coated paper printers] > >> Even Radio Shack had one of those! But not for long. Crumpling the paper > > How did the original TRS-80 screen printer work -- the one that plugged into > the > expanison bus and read out video RAM?

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Ethan Dicks Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 9:47 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: H960 logo panel On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: I'd love to get one complete RK11-C ... anybody? :-) I have an R

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > I'd love to get one complete RK11-C ... anybody? :-) I have an RK11-C but it did not come with a panel. Also, I've never attempted to fire it up, so I'm sure it needs a round of cleaning/deoxit and to be sleuthed for defective ICs. -ethan

RE: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread tony duell
[Aluminium coated paper printers] > Even Radio Shack had one of those! But not for long. Crumpling the paper How did the original TRS-80 screen printer work -- the one that plugged into the expanison bus and read out video RAM? The 'Quick Print II' (or some very similar name) was a Radio Sha

RE: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Fred Cisin
I had a little Comprint printer in the 1970s/1980s that used something sort of like this. The paper was aluminum coated, thus conductive. The On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, tony duell wrote: That is how the Sinclair ZX printer works and also things like the Axiom EX820. Spark (about 80-100V IIRC) to al

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/13/2015 11:43 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote: TMK these were generally referred to as electrographic printing. This sort of scheme goes back to at least the 40/50s for fax machines: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hilpert/e/deskfax/index.html There the metalisation is on the back of the paper. Similar te

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Oct-13, at 8:25 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> On 10/13/2015 12:02 AM, tony duell wrote: >>> ... >>> It appears to be electrolytic. You have to keep the paper damp (there is a >>> wick >>> inside that you put water on. The paper goes between a

RE: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Brad
Interesting. If you're ever inclined to post a photo I would be most interested. It would confirm a few theories I have about what Don was using at the time. This whole project began in part because I wanted to have one of these and thought I'd never see one come up for sale, given how hard it i

RE: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-10-13 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Paul Koning Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 7:55 AM >> On Oct 12, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Rich Alderson > >> wrote: >> ... >> The M tracks are longitudinally encoded (6-bit values chosen such that >> they read the same as NRZ backwards and forwards for DECtape, 4-bit >> values for LINCtape) to pr

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 7:48 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: H960 logo panel > From: Henk Gooijen > I have probably all PDP-11 models (except the PDP-11/50) > ... > I am not going to di

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Henk Gooijen > I will probably download everything ... in my experience, websites > with "/~/" in it seem to disappear after "some" time :-/ True, but pages maintained by institutions are almost equally bad about staying put! Many's the time I've clicked on a link, and the

Re: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Nick Allen
You are correct Brad, access is from the bottom. The bottom is exposed, not bottom cover.

Tektronix Hard Copy Unit (Was: Phototypesetters and imagesetters - Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards)

2015-10-13 Thread Rick Bensene
> > > >> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:52 AM, tony duell > wrote: > >> > >>> The only other terminal I worked > >>> with that could do that was a Tektronix storage scope terminal (4010 > >>> or 4014, IIRC). The Tek printer wasn't built-in, but it did take a > >>> scan of the live screen, so that was sim

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:22 PM, tony duell wrote: > > The Versatec electrostatic plotters are not the same as the VT52 printer, > they are > yet another process. WIth those the paper passes between a set of electrodes > that > build up a charge image on the paper. I beleive the paper is special

RE: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread tony duell
> That sounds correct. Versatec made printers that used that process, I used > one > (attached to the CDC 6500 at U of Illinois PLATO). Very nice for continuous > roll > full bitmap graphics. The Versatec electrostatic plotters are not the same as the VT52 printer, they are yet another proc

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Rod Smallwood
OK here it is The paper is impregnated with potassium ferrocyanide. This gives a yellowish color. The paper is dampend to make it conductive. Passing a current through it turns it blue (at least in the reference I saw) I always thought it printed black. Rod Smallwood On 13/10/2015 17:20, Paul

RE: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Brad
I think the answer on the keytop thing may have been staring me in the face this whole time. This is a blank key from my CT1024: http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/unclefalter/media/20151013_092925_zpsigggkcl5.jpg.html?o=0 Although the photo is a bit difficult to make out because the key is blac

Re: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/13/2015 10:52 AM, Brad wrote: > Cool, Jay! Was your keyboard one of the 40 or so that Don re-assembled and > offered? Or is it still in stock form? > Mine is "original", as ordered from wherever the article said to get them, back in the 70's. I think one or two of the round pieces got lo

Punch solenoid coil problem on old Flexowriter

2015-10-13 Thread Gary Oliver
I'm in the process of refurbishing an old model SPD Flexowriter (from the 1950s.) When I placed it in storage, all worked ok. The storage room was dry (though not heated or cooled) and there were no mice or other vermin involved in it's repose. However, upon starting it back up (and lubing eve

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:52 AM, tony duell wrote: >> The only other terminal I worked >> with that could do that was a Tektronix storage scope terminal (4010 >> or 4014, IIRC) > IIRC the image was developed by heating the paper. I don't remember any > liquids involved, but it's been a long time

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-13 18:20, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Oct 12, 2015, at 23:42, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Nigel Williams wrote: Has anyone ever seen one? I had an idea it used a silvered-paper and burned it off? or am I mi

RE: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Brad
Nick thank you so much for that photo. This seems to c onfirm a few things I didn't know about the prototype (not the cover unit we're talking about in this thread) -- that Don's prototype boards must roughly conform to the SWTPC boards you have there (if they are SWTPC, or did you make them fr

Re: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-10-13 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-13 16:54, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 12, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Rich Alderson wrote: ... The M tracks are longitudinally encoded (6-bit values chosen such that they read the same as NRZ backwards and forwards for DECtape, 4-bit values for LINCtape) to predefine blocks (cf. disk sectors)

Re: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/13/2015 09:23 AM, Nick Allen wrote: Here is a link to my TV Typewriter, you can see the mfg info for the keyboard which was included. I know this isn't the keyboard you are looking for, but is a period correct keyboard: https://picasaweb.google.com/105518971733743859503/TVTypewriter?auth

RE: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Dave Wade
Several folks produce custom keytops. I found these:- https://keycapsdirect.worldsecuresystems.com/products/inventory they might want to produce a retro layout for you... Dave G4UGM > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brad > Sent: 13 O

Phototypesetters and imagesetters - Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards

2015-10-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-10-13 12:06 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:52 AM, tony duell wrote: The only other terminal I worked with that could do that was a Tektronix storage scope terminal (4010 or 4014, IIRC). The Tek printer wasn't built-in, but it did take a scan of the live screen, so tha

Re: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Nick Allen
Here is a link to my TV Typewriter, you can see the mfg info for the keyboard which was included. I know this isn't the keyboard you are looking for, but is a period correct keyboard: https://picasaweb.google.com/105518971733743859503/TVTypewriter?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnp_Z-jtauDFQ#620516809880909040

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > >> On Oct 12, 2015, at 23:42, Ethan Dicks wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Nigel Williams >> wrote: >>> Has anyone ever seen one? I had an idea it used a silvered-paper and >>> burned it off? or am I mis-remembering. >>

Re: Calcomp 1039 plotter docs?

2015-10-13 Thread simon
Hmm, that may com handy... first I need a little time to build a 2114 tester from a sanguino (arduino clone at hand) On 12-10-15 20:30, Erik Baigar wrote: Hi Simon, just came accross, what might be helpful for you: I found some pages with my spare 906 controller (unfortunatley not working),

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 23:42, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Nigel Williams > wrote: >> Has anyone ever seen one? I had an idea it used a silvered-paper and >> burned it off? or am I mis-remembering. > > I used one in the early 1980s but I never had to repair it. It w

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:52 AM, tony duell wrote: > >> The only other terminal I worked >> with that could do that was a Tektronix storage scope terminal (4010 >> or 4014, IIRC). The Tek printer wasn't built-in, but it did take a >> scan of the live screen, so that was similar. The paper was >

RE: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Brad
Thanks Chuck. I assume being over 40 years it's unlikely we'll ever see these keytops in the wild. Although I said that about TVT boards and then a set showed up on ebay and slipped by me for $40. :) Here's another shot of the keyboard in the original article: http://www.swtpc.com/mholley

RE: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread tony duell
> > > I had a little Comprint printer in the 1970s/1980s that used something > sort of like this. The paper was aluminum coated, thus conductive. The > head was a high voltage electrode unit that burned away the aluminum > layer. (I can't imagine any kind of deposition technology in that > era..

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rod Smallwood > I could use the H960 its attached to!!! Cold, dead, hands, etc, etc! :-) But to be serious, those things are in really hot demand - I know Paul A wants some more, I'd like a couple more, etc, etc. They aren't _that_ complicated - it shouldn't be impossible to get

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Nigel Williams Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:32 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL On 13 Oct 2015, at 7:15 PM, Rod Smallw

RE: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread tony duell
> The only other terminal I worked > with that could do that was a Tektronix storage scope terminal (4010 > or 4014, IIRC). The Tek printer wasn't built-in, but it did take a > scan of the live screen, so that was similar. The paper was > silver-grey and I remember it coming out wet too. Everyth

RE: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Brad
Cool, Jay! Was your keyboard one of the 40 or so that Don re-assembled and offered? Or is it still in stock form? -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay Jaeger Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:29 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re:

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:29 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: H960 logo panel > From: Henk Gooijen > yes, please take a nice picture of it! ... The higher the resolution > the better! OK,

Re: Source for 3M Bumpons

2015-10-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/12/2015 11:13 PM, Ali wrote: Hello all, I am trying to replace some rubber feet on a couple of items and it appears the OEM used 3M Bumpons. I've been trying to find a source that will sell small quantities but all I can find is one box minimum (which is a couple of thousand!). I am willin

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > There are all sorts of oddball printing technologies from back then. I > remember > one (from a lab instrument, not a printer or terminal) that used > aluminum-coated > paper, but the coating was on the back of the paper. The writing was d

Re: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-10-13 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:16:54AM -0400, william degnan wrote: > Did you ever speak with anyone at System Source (Bob) about their PDP 12? > Maybe they'd be interested in collaborating. http://museum.syssrc.com/ I highly recommend everyone pull up the Univac 490 (1963) page and look in the "gall

Re: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/12/2015 5:12 PM, Brad wrote: > > I'm currently working on a replica of Don Lancaster's prototype TV > Typewriter (pic here: > http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/unclefalter/media/20151011_125748_zpssu7yy > ujf.jpg.html?o=0 ) and I was wondering - does anyone know where the unit > that appear

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > On 10/13/2015 12:02 AM, tony duell wrote: >> >> ... >> It appears to be electrolytic. You have to keep the paper damp (there is a >> wick >> inside that you put water on. The paper goes between a helical electrode on >> a spinning drum and

Re: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
Brad, I'm going to say that it will be impossible to identify the keyboard used from a photo. The issue is that all sorts of computer equipment used gray key bodies with white letters. For example, here's a Control DD60 console display unit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDC_6000_series#/medi

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/13/2015 12:02 AM, tony duell wrote: > >> >> Paul, if you come across any VT52s that have the built-in screen >> printer could you take some pictures please. >> >> Has anyone ever seen one? I had an idea it used a silvered-paper and >> burned it off? or am I mis-remembering. > > I have one.

Re: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-10-13 Thread william degnan
Did you ever speak with anyone at System Source (Bob) about their PDP 12? Maybe they'd be interested in collaborating. http://museum.syssrc.com/ On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Rich Alderson > wrote: > > > > ... > > The M tracks are longi

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

2015-10-13 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 03:51:14PM -0300, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: > There are a lot of people who would like to buy people's votes It's a good thing this does not happen in any other countries . :-) mcl

Re: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Rich Alderson > wrote: > > ... > The M tracks are longitudinally encoded (6-bit values chosen such that they > read the same as NRZ backwards and forwards for DECtape, 4-bit values for > LINCtape) to predefine blocks (cf. disk sectors) for data. More precisely: i

Re: H960 logo panel

2015-10-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Henk Gooijen > yes, please take a nice picture of it! ... The higher the resolution > the better! OK, I scanned it (I prefer scanning to pictures, as there is almost inevitably distortion when using a lens), at 300 dpi. The whole thing wouldn't fit in my A3 scanner, but I got

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Nigel Williams
> On 13 Oct 2015, at 7:15 PM, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > Its called a Hellschreiber http:// > www.nonstopsystems/radio/pdf-hell/hell-g5xb.pdf Fixed URL: http://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/pdf-hell/hell-g5xb.pdf

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Rod Smallwood
Its called a Hellschreiber http:// www.nonstopsystems/radio/pdf-hell/hell-g5xb.pdf Regards Rod On 13/10/2015 06:20, Nigel Williams wrote: Thanks Jos, Tony and Rod - you've neatly highlighted why I found the screen printer so curious and fascinating, an oddball feature in the terminal world and

Re: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread COURYHOUSE
unique keys? I am not sure of that Unless he lettered in CTL looked like weird Mohawk data sciences keys or something I have seen this type of keyboard before... or some other place in a scrap environment post 1799. Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC In a message

RE: Source for 3M Bumpons

2015-10-13 Thread Ali
> http://www.tgoldkamp.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=sj5023 > > > http://www.tgoldkamp.com/3m-153-bumpon-153-protective-products-sj5780- > black.html Chris, Thanks but the minimum order on those is 1000 at least. -Ali

Re: VT52s, VT61s lots of DEC and DG keyboards- return trip through Maine, MA, NY, PA, OH, IN to IL

2015-10-13 Thread Rod Smallwood
I remember getting a laugh at one product training. I got asked to name a unique feature of the VT52. My answer "Built in toilet paper dispenser" On 13/10/2015 06:20, Nigel Williams wrote: Thanks Jos, Tony and Rod - you've neatly highlighted why I found the screen printer so curious and fascina

RE: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Brad
Come to think of now.. the keytops kind of resemble those on my CT-1024. Similar height, same giant 0 key. My CT-1024 keys are black and lack the extra 'functions' marked on each key though. Maybe SWTPC was buying from Mechanical Enterprises too. Reading closely from my magazine cover.. the

Re: Source for 3M Bumpons

2015-10-13 Thread Chris Halarewich
http://www.tgoldkamp.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=sj5023 http://www.tgoldkamp.com/3m-153-bumpon-153-protective-products-sj5780-black.html On 10/12/15, Ali wrote: >> Do they have to be 3M? i.e., Do you see anything close here? >> >> https://www.westfloridacomponents.com/RubberFeet.html > > Chuck

RE: TV Typewriter Cover Unit location?

2015-10-13 Thread Brad
Yeah sorry.. wasn't clear on that one I guess. The cover unit is this guy: http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/RadioElectronics/Cover_Sep73_640.jpg I'm just curious if anyone out there knows what happened to it. Seems like the kind of thing that would have been preserved. I very much doubt I'd be a