On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk
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> Is there a dd equivalent for VMS?
I’m pretty sure PIP is the “dd” equivalent on DEC operating systems in general.
-- Chris
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:00:00AM -0700, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> wrote:
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> > Is there a dd equivalent for VMS?
>
> I’m pretty sure PIP is the “dd” equivalent on DEC operating systems in
> general.
>
COPY can be used on raw d
> On Jun 16, 2017, at 3:00 AM, Chris Hanson via cctalk
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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk
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>> Is there a dd equivalent for VMS?
>
> I’m pretty sure PIP is the “dd” equivalent on DEC operating systems in
> general.
No, "pip" is a file manipulation
BACKUP/IMAGE might work. I have a dim recollection of moving system drives
around that way, but it's been a few decades. :-)
Best of luck, and let us know how it goes.
-Ed-
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
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> > On Jun 16, 2017, at 3:00 AM,
> On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:38 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk
> wrote:
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> That's the whole point scanning _will_ preserve the archive because it won't
> need to be handled.
> They didn't even bother too make back up Xerox copies. You seem to imply they
> are professional.
> No backup, 50cents a c
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 23:11, Lyle Bickley via cctech
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> Having volunteered with Collections (cataloging, etc.), I know that one
> session at VCF would be insufficient to qualify someone to properly
> handle and copy documents to museum standards. In addition, as Rich
> said, th
On 16 June 2017 at 16:17, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
> that it was in an inappropriate format and that I was "wasting everybody's
> time".
That's not good. What format did you use, JOOI?
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I used a TZ30 under Linux. I found that the TZ30 mechanism is significantly
less troublesome than the TK50 (IIRC the TK50Z is the same mechanism with a
SCSI interface board). Used an Adaptec AHA-1522 ISA SCSI controller.
FWIW, my TK50 cartridges seemed to be suffering from tape stickiness. 30
minu
Can anyone identify these boards? Person I got them from can't remember
anything about them.
http://www.pdp8online.com/ftp/misc/unknown_boards/
Date codes of 1964. Size 4.5"x3.25". Looks like used card edge for
keying but has separate 23 pin connector for electrical connection.
No useful markin
You could remove the disk from your Ultrix box, install another diskand install
NetBSD. The Pmax version works on the DEC MIPS
boxes:http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/pmax/. You could also do that on your
DECAlpha.
The TK50Z should be a SCSI drive, you could also just
move the drive to another UNI
I'd guess something from the GE 200 series or thereabouts.
You may find something like it in the GE service manuals on bitsavers.
On 6/16/17 7:31 AM, David Gesswein via cctalk wrote:
>Can anyone identify these boards?
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
A long time ago I scanned some documents and, after I made them
available, the response that I got from a museum representative was that
it was in an inappropriate format and that I was "wasting everybody's
time". I stopped scanning computer do
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk
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>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 23:11, Lyle Bickley via cctech
>> wrote:
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>> Having volunteered with Collections (cataloging, etc.), I know that one
>> session at VCF would be insufficient to qualify someone to properly
>> handle a
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
I have therefore come to the conclusion that people don't want my scans
(for whatever reason). And I am not going to waste my time scanning manuals
as a result. So no Philips P800 schematics, etc.
Instead of that, why not just upload the scans t
> I have therefore come to the conclusion that people don't want my scans (for
> whatever reason). And I am not going to waste my time scanning manuals as a
> result. So no Philips P800 schematics, etc.
>
I would suggest that it is not a waste of time at all. If BitSavers won't have
them then
I have had multiple interesting and useful answers. Thanks everyone.
I checked on VMS 7.3 and there is no COPY/IMAGE there. BACKUP/IMAGE had been my
first thought, but it won't accept a tape as the source of the image data
unfortunately.
I have a TZ30, so I will try that on Ultrix. I will also
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Rob Jarratt
wrote:
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>> I have therefore come to the conclusion that people don't want my scans (for
>> whatever reason). And I am not going to waste my time scanning manuals as a
>> result. So no Philips P800 schematics, etc.
>>
>
>
> I would suggest that it is no
> On Jun 16, 2017, at 07:20, Liam Proven via cctalk
> wrote:
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>> On 16 June 2017 at 16:17, Alan Perry via cctalk
>> wrote:
>> that it was in an inappropriate format and that I was "wasting everybody's
>> time".
>
> That's not good. What format did you use, JOOI?
As I recall, the problem
On 16/06/17 18:30, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
I have had multiple interesting and useful answers. Thanks everyone.
I checked on VMS 7.3 and there is no COPY/IMAGE there. BACKUP/IMAGE had been my
first thought, but it won't accept a tape as the source of the image data
unfortunately.
I have
On 2017-06-16 1:40 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Rob Jarratt
wrote:
I have therefore come to the conclusion that people don't want my scans (for
whatever reason). And I am not going to waste my time scanning manuals as a
result. So no Philips P800 schematic
I have some disks - but my MINC is a bit buried at the moment. :-)
Contact me privately if nothing else works out, and I'll try to get to
where I could make you some copies. -- Ian
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:18 AM, jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
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>
> On 6/10/2017 1:29
Hi folks,
Does anyone know if the Sun2 can take a Sun3 keyboard with an adapter?
Is the signaling the same?
Otherwise, does someone have one I might be able to buy?
Same question applies to the mouse.
Thanks,
- Ian
--
Ian Finder
(206) 395-MIPS
ian.fin...@gmail.com
Alan and others - Yes I like the colored covers on things also. many
are cool to put in displays or just frame and put on the wall.
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 6/16/2017 11:21:26 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
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don't think it is any GE 100 200 400 or 600 series. nor any of the
early process control computers either.
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 6/16/2017 8:19:05 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
I'd guess something from the GE 2
On 06/16/2017 02:40 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> don't think it is any GE 100 200 400 or 600 series. nor any of
> the early process control computers either. Ed# _www.smecc.org_
> (http://www.smecc.org)
Perhaps not a computer, but a controller? I'm thinking of things of
that time like the Westi
Archive.org will take all your scans no questions asked. Mail me if you
need assistance.
On Jun 16, 2017 11:47 AM, "Toby Thain via cctalk"
wrote:
> On 2017-06-16 1:40 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
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>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Rob Jarratt
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>> I have therefore come to
I have always pondered...
Which will last the eternity?
Archive.org
Or...
CHM?
Of course, the best plan is to stash
stuff at all the archiving facilities.
Geographically diverse storage has
always been a favorite topic of our.
NOTE!> Make it clear, on your passing,
that material or copies
Gene suggested:
> Instead of that, why not just upload the scans to the Internet Archive? I
> suspect they'd love to have the material.
>
> g.
Thanks for that! After grabbing this-that-theother off archive.org, it had
never really
occurred to me to actually join and upload bits and pieces of old
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 11:54:55AM +1000, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote:
> So, I've just joined and put up a few docs this Saturday morning...
> https://archive.org/details/@galasphere347
ooh, F8 stuff. My pile of that is on my to-do list for this summer.
There may still be a chip in a bo
On 06/16/2017 06:28 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 06/16/2017 02:40 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
don't think it is any GE 100 200 400 or 600 series. nor any of
the early process control computers either. Ed# _www.smecc.org_
(http://www.smecc.org)
Perhaps not a computer, but a controller?
> On Jun 16, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>
> I have always pondered...
> Which will last the eternity?
> Archive.org
> Or...
> CHM?
> ..
> You might also see about places to leave
> copies at Living Computer Museum
> and others. Lets face it, with Paul Allen's
> backing, I d
On 06/16/2017 07:09 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> Oh, GE made NC controls (not CNC) all hardwired logic to decode
> G-code commands on paper tape and make a machine move. They had
> hundreds of boards, but I seem to recall single-sided yellow
> paper-phenolic boards. I also thought they used card-edge c
On 06/16/2017 09:31 AM, David Gesswein via cctech wrote:
Can anyone identify these boards? Person I got them from can't remember
anything about them.
http://www.pdp8online.com/ftp/misc/unknown_boards/
Date codes of 1964. Size 4.5"x3.25". Looks like used card edge for
keying but has separate
On 06/16/2017 09:04 AM, Ed Thierbach via cctalk wrote:
> BACKUP/IMAGE might work. I have a dim recollection of moving system drives
> around that way, but it's been a few decades. :-)
I have cloned drives that way for VMS systems. Backup/image is the tool
for that.
Allison
> Best of luck, an
I checked and they are no GE 4000 system boards.
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Jon Elson via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 06/16/2017 09:31 AM, David Gesswein via cctech wrote:
>
>> Can anyone identify these boards? Person I got them from can't
>> remember
>> anything about
I like the Elgin clock module. I didn't know they made electronic time pieces.
I'd guess the board is a clock generator.
Dwight
From: cctech on behalf of william degnan via
cctech
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 10:02:18 AM
To: Jon Elson; General Discussion: On-
This reminds me the 5 boards that were in the back of my Uniservo 10/14
and which were the terminators (to put on the last tape drive connected
to the main controller). Maybe these boards have a similar function?
On 16/06/2017 19:02, william degnan via cctech wrote:
I checked and they are no G
If you want to mess with a F8, get your hand on a VideoBrain.
There is a group that has a lot of information as well.
Dwight
From: cctalk on behalf of Mark Linimon via
cctalk
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 7:07:03 PM
To: ste...@malikoff.com; General Discussion:
The board in the bottom center is 6 buffers or inverters.
The upper right is 4 flipflops. The upper right is some type
of decoder( maybe an address or something ).
The bottom right is a clock generator and the one on the
lower left looks to be a massive gate, nor or nands depending on the logic
oops. the 4 flops are upper left.
Dwight
From: dwight
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 9:31:15 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Unknown boards
The board in the bottom center is 6 buffers or inverters.
The upper right is 4 flipflo
The situation where copies of your digital files are housed with multiple
institutions is always the best approach.
On Jun 16, 2017 6:36 PM, wrote:
> I have always pondered...
> Which will last the eternity?
> Archive.org
> Or...
> CHM?
>
> Of course, the best plan is to stash
> stuff at all t
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